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Bill-Lee
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
o Young Kirk, Johnny and Uncle Frank

I know Uncle Frank is Kirk's creepy Uncle who raised the Kirk of this time line after Kirk's father was killed but who is Johnny? It can't be Kirk's brother, Kirk's brother is George Samuel Kirk, called Sam by his brother. Is it a typo?
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shoroko
10/13/09

@Bill-Lee: 'Johnny' was the kid Young Kirk called out to when he drove past him in that car. Though apparently that actor was supposed to play Sam Kirk and did film scenes as him, so... I don't know, maybe they just stuck with the final cut name regardless.
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Aaron Altman
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
GAAAAAAAAAH.

I just might spring for a Blu-Ray player just to get this DVD. Sigh.
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Paul_Is_Drunk
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
You know what?

Someone explain the Heisenberg theory.

Or how universal translators can pick up the metaphor, syntax, unique vowel construction, & everything else of completely new languages.

Why is it those things get a slide, but time travel doesn't?

Two unbelievably unrealistic things are no problem, but another one isn't? Star Trek is soft sci-fi. It's only hard in comparison to something like Star Wars.
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ludwigk
10/13/09

@Paul_Is_Drunk: Do you mean the Heisenberg uncertainty principle? Because that's rather simple. For any two given observables, expressible as linear operators, if they are non-commutative, there is an uncertainty relation between them related to the commutator. Or, did you mean some star-treky concept that I'm missing. Did you mean Heisenberg Compensators? I think those are strictly TNG
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(zombie) buddhathing
10/13/09

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Ben Burtt is a sound designer. Michael Giacchino wrote the score for Star Trek... for whatever that's worth.
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Aaron Altman
10/13/09

@(zombie) buddhathing: That's a major detail, of course. Score Sound effects.
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(zombie) buddhathing
10/13/09

@Aaron Altman: I agree it's a big deal, but I didn't want to strike a disrespecful tone towards the writer of the article, or really, towards the great Ben Burtt. But credit where credit is due.
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veeerules
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
Too bad they don't just show the same movie without the lens flares. If I ever watch it again, I will be wearing sunglasses to avoid the migraine.
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shoroko
10/13/09

@veeerules: I actually did this the second time I saw it. It didn't bother me so much after the first viewing, but yeesh, that first time I did have a headache the whole way through.
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Malthian
10/13/09

@shoroko: There were a few scenes where the lens flare took up the entirety of the picture, that nonsense should have been nipped in the bud after they saw the dailies. That or reshoot the scene with less flare.
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John Hazard
10/13/09

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So it explains what Nero & co. were doing for 25 YEARS while they waited for old Spock to appear. Does it explain why, when they FINALLY catch him, instead of torturing him (like Pike) or making him watch the destruction of Vulcan with them, they dropped him on a planet where (according to J.J. Abrams) he couldn't actually see Vulcan being destroyed? Does it explain how old Spock, Scotty, and Kirk randomly wind up on the same planet? How about why, if Spock was trying to stop ONE supernova, and it takes a DROP of "red matter" to make a black hole, he was carrying around a MASSIVE GLOB of the stuff? And how does a supernova (the destructive force of which can only travel, at most, at the speed of light) unexpectedly destroy Romulus, which is not orbiting that star ( perspective- if Pluto could go supernova and we had subspace communications and warp drive like the Romulans do, we'd have 5 hours to evacuate people. If our nearest star blew up, we'd have 4 years). Why Nero, who was a random space miner, had a ship about 5 MILES LONG with a seeming endless supply of torpedoes? Why the spacefaring races on Earth and Vulcan did not have ONE SHIP that could have attacked Nero's dangling drilling platform? Why, if people can beam over interstellar distances, would they ever bother with starships again?

Yeah, yeah, I know- shut up, nerd. The movie was fun.
I just hate that Star Trek is stupid now.
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AngriestGeek
10/13/09

@John Hazard: AMEN! PREACH IT, BROTHER!
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d_r_e
10/13/09

@John Hazard: "Why the spacefaring races on Earth and Vulcan did not have ONE SHIP that could have attacked Nero's dangling drilling platform?"

That was my biggest gripe about the movie. Talk about lazy writing.
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Smeagol92055
10/13/09

@John Hazard: Well, ridiculous plot-holes aside, I will field the question about Nero's ship. The drill was the only part of the ship that Nero actually "owned." He was a miner, and the drilling platform was his ship. However, after the destruction of Romulus (in the future) he killed a member of the Romulan high council and took his ID pass to get into The Vault, where the Romulans had been reverse-engineering Borg tech for a couple of decades. The Narada was actually a ship with a lot of Borg enhancements; all Nero did was attach his drill to the belly of it.
It's explained in the prequel comic.
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Pessimippopotamus
10/13/09

@d_r_e: That actually made me almost hate the movie. I'm still not on speaking terms with it.
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Aaron Altman
10/13/09

@John Hazard: There's a series of comic books that delve into this. And, wrong, Star Trek got its groove back.
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John Hazard
10/13/09

@Smeagol92055: That would have explained some things- if it had been in the movie.

I stopped reading the prequel comics after about two pages of dreadful dialogue. Besides, is all this convoluted backstory necessary to create a formidable villain? Khan explained himself in one scene.
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Rasselas
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
The Shatner Conundrum by Robert Ludlum. Sequel to last year's airport-filling bestseller The Roddenberry Exclamation.
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Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.
10/13/09

@Rasselas: and precursor to The Chekov Defenestration.
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Edited by Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee. at 10/13/09 11:02 AM

cletar
10/13/09

@Rasselas: Prequel to "The Uhura Ultimatum."
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Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.
10/13/09

@cletar: and in the not-too-distant future, this will all lead to "Robert Ludlum's The Ferengi Kerfluffle by Eoin Colfer"
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Edited by Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee. at 10/13/09 6:17 PM

SuperTuna
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
Hahaha - I thought it read Klingons take Narnia...

Then I was sad that they really didn't.

What they should have done is have a holographic disappearing Bird of Prey on one of the discs. The second disc? ALL lens flare from any angle from any light source.
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Dr Emilio Lizardo
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
Do they explain why Nero decides to use his energy based drill through San Francisco bay where all that water cooling can slow him down, rather than in Death Valley where he would have a shorter path to the earth's core anyway?
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daveNYC
10/13/09

@Dr Emilio Lizardo: Maybe they could explain why the black hole had to be inserted into the planet.
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omgwtflolbbqbye
10/13/09

@Dr Emilio Lizardo: Spite.
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Don't Make Me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.
10/13/09

@Dr Emilio Lizardo: destroying Earth was merely the second part of the plan. The first part was killing that damn whale from "The Voyage Home" that saved the planet in the first place.
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ShadowBottle
10/13/09

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Why can't these guys ever have a special movie mode that includes the deleted scenes IN the movie? :\ Also, I thought there were supposed to be pseudo-animated versions of the 4 mini-comic books and the Wired comic included for background on the BD. This is disappointing, I was looking forward to that.
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Trai_Dep
10/13/09

In reply to Trek DVD Extra: Kirk Apologizes To A Green Woman?
Actually, the film's time travel schema was among the most simple (meant in a good sense).
An inflection point shattered results in a linear departure, whose tangent is heavily influenced by inevitable outcomes (such as Kirk, Spock & Scottie eventually pairing up because they're meant to, or Sulu being a sword-slashing bad-ass else the universe is swallowed into a time-paradoxed, angrily-cheated black hole).
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Kruel
10/13/09

@Trai_Dep: Except the part where going in a black hole causes one to move backward instead of forward in time.

I guess relativity doesn't work in the movies.
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MrTim
10/13/09

@Kruel: The warp drive violates relativity if it doesn't normally allow time travel.
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Dirk Anger
10/13/09

@Kruel: Yeah, if you go in a black hole, you drive backwards in time towards being ripped/smashed because the difference in gravitational force between your feet and your head is enough to do that
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Trai_Dep
10/13/09

@Kruel: Deus ex machina is a Star Trek standby, so can we all gather together, hands held, and pretend the initial Red Matter incident made sense?
From that point on, I liked how their tangent universe was straight forward. Ish.
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Jason Fortuny
04/28/09

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Veddy intehreshtink. BUT SHTOOPID!
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
04/28/09

@Jason Fortuny: +1 for a comment that is also era-appropriate.
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Tyler Laing
04/28/09

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SPOILERRRSSS!!! Seriously guys, spoiler tags or a spoiler warning, please? You spoiled so much!
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OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
04/28/09

@Tyler Laing: See end of first paragraph.
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phoenix
04/28/09

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Oh hell.
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Rasselas
04/28/09

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Highly illogical. There is only one ladies' man in the Star Trek universe and I think we all know what his name is.
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ManchuCandidate
04/28/09

@Rasselas:

Sulu!
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OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
04/28/09

@ManchuCandidate: Ensign Kim!

No wait...

Tuvix!
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Rasselas
04/28/09

@ManchuCandidate: Gesundheit.
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Grey_Area
04/28/09

@Rasselas: Lt. Kevin Riley?
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