• io9
  • science
  • overmind
  • kotaku
  • gizmodo
  • Profile logout login

#robertaheinlein#lab2

io9

Share Cancel
   
Upload an image | Add an image URL
×

logging in
  • FAQ. Include # before tag:
  • #observationdeck,
  • #tips,
  • #calendar,
  • etc.

San Francisco, 6:56 PM
Sat Dec 5
18 posts in the last 24 hours

Team

Tip your editors:

Editor-in-Chief:
Annalee Newitz |

News Editor:
Charlie Jane Anders |

Associate Editor:
Meredith Woerner |

Assistant Editor:
Lauren Davis |

Weekend Editor:
Graeme McMillan |

Contributors:
Joshua Glenn
Stephen Goldmeier |
Ed Grabianowski |
Austin Grossman
Paul Hogan |
Lauren Davis |
Chris Hsiang |
Lynn Peril |
Ann VanderMeer
Alasdair Wilkins |

Graphic Designer:
Stephanie Fox |

Interns:
Tim Barribeau |
Julia Carusillo |
Alex Eichler |
Cyriaque Lamar |
Caitlin Petrakovitz |
Mary Ratliff |
Josh Snyder |

More:
io9 on Facebook
follow io9 on Twitter

SUBSCRIBE TO io9 RSS

New: Breaking news and daily top stories via email
1428 Subscribers
io9
  • Your version of Internet Explorer is not supported. Please upgrade to the most recent version in order to view comments.
    Dsmvwl  Admin  Promote to frontpage Approve user Ban user ×
    Image of Vulcan Has No Moon Vulcan Has No Moon
    11/26/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Neon Genesis Evangelion. The damn writers/producers couldn't think of a way to end that train wreck except by killing off the whole damn cast. They should have just ended it with Kaworu Nagisa and success of the Human Instrumentality Project....if not sooner.
     Reply
    Vulcan Has No Moon was starred Vulcan Has No Moon was unstarred
    Image of Alvarez Alvarez
    11/28/09

    @Vulcan Has No Moon: I liked the ending for one simple fact: I hated every last character on the show. Oh I was enthralled by it and couldn't stop watching it until I'd seen every last scrap of the shows and movies but, they seemed to be great examples of humanities selfishness and propensity to destroy itself. On the one hand I hated Shinji's father but also couldn't stand Shinji's whining.
     Reply
    Alvarez was starred Alvarez was unstarred
    Image of Vulcan Has No Moon Vulcan Has No Moon
    11/28/09

    @Alvarez: Actually, I don't really care they killed everyone, just that it seemed like they had run into a brick wall with the story and took an easy out. Like they never planned the story arc out to the end. It's like the writers got together and said, "Show got cancelled, and we've got an hour to rap this up. Any ideas on how to tie up all the loose ends?" "Let's just kill everyone off." "Cool!" and then everyone knocked off early for lunch.
     Reply
    Vulcan Has No Moon was starred Vulcan Has No Moon was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Oh, and is it blasphemy to suggest that Professor Tolkien's work, despite the lack of sex, was just a wee bit soap operatic?
     Reply
    Wookie1972 was starred Wookie1972 was unstarred
    Image of Burke Burke
    11/25/09

    @Wookie1972: Or that (per Randall from Clerks 2) the hobbits were gay?
     Reply
    Wookie1972 promoted this comment Burke was starred Burke was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/26/09

    @Burke: If I could pick a point where I got off the Kevin Smith train, it would be that. What a schmuck.
     Reply
    Wookie1972 was starred Wookie1972 was unstarred
    Image of firstofnormalin firstofnormalin
    11/26/09

    @Wookie1972:
    Then so was Wagner's Ring and the whole Nibelungenlied. And, of course, Puccini.
    How about The House of Atreus? And the Oedipus cycle?
    I'm gonna do my PhD dissertation: Buffy As A Universal Human Archetype
     Reply
    Wookie1972 promoted this comment firstofnormalin was starred firstofnormalin was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/26/09

    @firstofnormalin: Well, those were real operas, soap or not. Except for Oedipus. (although Oedipis, with its use of hidden parentage, would obviously count)
     Reply
    Wookie1972 was starred Wookie1972 was unstarred
    Image of firstofnormalin firstofnormalin
    11/27/09

    @Wookie1972:
    Well, I'll grant most weren't _sf_ soaps, but look at Wagner's Ring--dwarves (maybe even dwarfs), dragons with magic blood, hero screws his sister, magic swords, magic gold rings, tarnhelms for invisibility, Rinemadens living under the river...if that ain't a fantasy/soap opera combo, I'll eat my Furtwangler CDs.
     Reply
    firstofnormalin was starred firstofnormalin was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Soap operas aren't all that bad- doesn't War and Peace have something like 400 characters?
     Reply
    Wookie1972 was starred Wookie1972 was unstarred
    Image of ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    And yet, Sonic's comic books were so much better than any game released this decade.
     Reply
    ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. was starred ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of Alessar Alessar
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    ALIAS? Here, I can explain Alias:
     Reply
    Alessar was starred Alessar was unstarred
    Image of atrus123 atrus123
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Another weird thread in BSG was Starbuck and Leoben. They have this long, complex, tormented relationship throughout the series, and then when they discover Starbuck's dead body on the Earth (that is Earth but maybe isn't Earth), Leoben gets creeped out by her, runs away, and.... well that's it. The relationship just seems severed; they never cross paths again; the event is never discussed. Nothing.

    I always found that a little strange.
     Reply
    atrus123 was starred atrus123 was unstarred
    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/25/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time

    what about the Summers family tree? It's even worse than that x-men relationships map:
    [tvtropes.org]

    Here's the text version: [members.core.com]

    (I'm sure somebody must have done a beautiful one somewhere)
     Reply
    Dirk Anger was starred Dirk Anger was unstarred
    Image of CleverName CleverName
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Holy shit! John McCain is in Stargate Universe?
     Reply
    Annalee Newitz promoted this comment CleverName was starred CleverName was unstarred
    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/24/09

    @CleverName: No, see, it's... oh wait.

    I see what you did there. Heh.
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was starred Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of ♠ Final ♠ ♠ Final ♠
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    I'm still waiting for Forge to show up in Wakanda to take Storm from the arms of T'Challa. Storm out in the rain is still one of my favorite covers of all time -sigh-
     Reply
    ♠ Final ♠ was starred ♠ Final ♠ was unstarred
    Image of erika erika
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Aw, I thought that you were going to talk about daytime soaps that went sci fi. General Hospital and Days had some great sci fi storylines in the 80's and 90's.
     Reply
    erika was starred erika was unstarred
    Image of blackoak blackoak
    11/24/09

    @erika: The Ice Princess freeze ray trying to destroy Port Charles (along with John Colicos and Elizabeth Taylor as bad guys) was much watch tv in college.
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment blackoak was starred blackoak was unstarred
    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/24/09

    @blackoak: It TOTALLY was. Fun stuff.
     Reply
    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was starred Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of Counterglow Counterglow
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Thank god Wolverine isn't bi. If he was, he'd have banged the whole Marvel universe by now.
     Reply
    Annalee Newitz promoted this comment Counterglow was starred Counterglow was unstarred
    Image of raptor170123 raptor170123
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Ok, potshots at BSG are fine, but let's be fair...Head Six showed Baltar the child, and SIX EPISODES later she told him that "Boomer" (the copy later known as Athena) would be the one to physically bear the child. And then Baltar and Caprica Six save the child's life during the Battle of the Colony, then becoming symbolic parents.

    The only reason why it's semi-wonky is that the original plan was to kill Helo and Athena, leaving Caprica Six and Baltar as the child's guardians on Earth. But the writers figured they'd be burned at the stake if they killed those two in the last ep.

    I totally agree on the Saul-Six-Ellen love triangle though, that was a clusterfuck. "Deadlock" was the worst episode of season 4 by far, even if you hated the last 20 minutes of the last ep.
     Reply
    kagekiri promoted this comment Annalee Newitz approved this comment raptor170123 was starred raptor170123 was unstarred
    Image of vonamarak vonamarak
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Yay for the Marvel comic soap. It's the ultimate soap, that stretches across alternative realities! Actually beyond alternative realities, in alternatives of the multiverses. Even Heinlein sticks to time travel and immortal characters - Marvel goes way beyond that.
     Reply
    Annalee Newitz promoted this comment Edited by vonamarak at 11/24/09 7:57 PM vonamarak was starred vonamarak was unstarred
    Image of YanaH YanaH
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    I am giving SG:U one more episode and then I give up! I was so POed after the last one I made a list of what is wrong with the show.

    What is wrong with Stargate: Universe?
    Commander is thinking with the little head -he is going to get people dead.
    Scientist is sociopath/jackass -he is/did get people dead.
    HR lady is so mousy
    Senator's Daughter is a whore/slut alternating with mousy
    Medic lady is too nice to people who need bitchslappin'

    Basiclly it is Stargate 90210
    I didn't sign up for a soap opera, I signed up for a Sci Fi show.
    It is on the Sci Fi channel...Oh, wait, now I know why they changed the name. So crap like Scare Tactics won't seem so out of place.
     Reply
    Annalee Newitz promoted this comment YanaH was starred YanaH was unstarred
    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/25/09

    @YanaH: Don'y you mean you were PedO?
    hmmm... let's leave it at POed
     Reply
    Dirk Anger was starred Dirk Anger was unstarred
    Image of brentbent: C.O.C.K.R.O.A.C.H. )for all the queer super villians out there( brentbent: C.O.C.K.R.O.A.C.H. )for all the queer super villians out there(
    11/24/09

    In reply to Top 10 Most Ridiculous Soap Operas Of All Time
    Let's not get forget Brock's crazy ass relationship with Molotov Cocktease, the Russian assassin who seduces him then betrays him on a frequent basis, The Monarch and Phantom Limb fighting for Dr. Girlfriend/Queen Etheria, The Monarch's absurd but never explained hatred of Dr. Venture, Dr. Venture almost hooking up with Dr. Girlfriend before turning into a giant caterpilllar, Dean's obsession with the goth girl next door, Dermott--the supposed son of Brock (if he is, the nature vs. nuture argument is over and nuture won), Dr. Venture's crazy ex-bodyguard attempts to kidnap him so they can be a happy family....
     Reply
    Annalee Newitz promoted this comment brentbent: C.O.C.K.R.O.A.C.H. )for all the queer super villians out there( was starred brentbent: C.O.C.K.R.O.A.C.H. )for all the queer super villians out there( was unstarred
    Earlier discussions Other discussions Show all discussions Show featured discussions only Start a new discussion

Login

Enter your username and password.

Please enter a username.
Please enter your password.
logging in
Login via Facebook | Sign Up | Forgot Password?

Reset Password

Please enter your email address to have your password reset.

Please enter your email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
requesting password reset

Register

Registering will give you a user profile and the ability to add other users as friends. To become a commenter, however, you need to audition.

Want to know more? Consult the Comment FAQ and legal terms.

Please enter a username.
Please enter a password.
Please confirm your password.
Passwords are not identical.
Please enter a valid email address.
registration sent, waiting for reply

Submit Your Comment

You don't need to login to comment. Just enter your email address below.

See how your address will be displayed in the Comment FAQ.

Please enter a valid email address.
Please enter a valid email address.
logging in

Login with your Facebook or io9 account.

Sign up here.



  • Archives
  • About
  • Advertising
  • Legal
  • Help
  • Report a Bug
  • FAQ
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.