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    Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?

    No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel

    Who Greenlit Space Vulture?
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    Image of MonkeyT MonkeyT
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    I'll bet that these talks started when Disney acquired Pixar. With Zemeckis's motion capture background, bet on a 2D vs 3D vs real world plotline leaning heavily on Pixar cameos just like the last one was promoted using classic 2D cameos.

    I'll also bet that that's where the wheels come off as Lasseter won't let him use Pixar's characters.
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    WFRR sequel=Good
    Motion Capture=confusing
    No Hoskins=Bad #rogerrabbit
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    Image of AshThePirate AshThePirate
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    Doesn't Stop Motion defeat the entire purpose of the movie? The charm of the original was the iconic 2d cartoon characters interacting with real people.

    Not to mention only a few animation directors/studios can pull off stop motion to that it is a cinematic quality, and Stop Motion against 2d would probably look like shit.

    Worst idea of the week Award needs to be presented to Zemeckis. Who then should be promptly bitch slapped by Jessica Rabbit.
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    Image of bakana bakana
    11/03/09

    @AshThePirate: Where exactly are you reading anything about stop-motion? #rogerrabbit
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    11/03/09

    @bakana: Wow, I confused Stop Motion with Motion Capture. It still, takes away from the original concept like stop motion though.

    And Jessica should still slap him.

    *No more reading articles whilst tired.* #rogerrabbit
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    Jesus Christ, Zemeckis. Give up on the motion capture already. IT MAKES EVERYTHING LOOK LIKE SHIT. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of it must be bunnies it must be bunnies
    11/03/09

    @braak: Agreed. I find it really disturbing to look at.

    I have to change the channel whenever I see ads for A Christmas Carol (2009). Never took the kids to Polar Express either, they didn't want to see it anyway. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    11/03/09

    @it must be bunnies: He uses it on every damn thing, and he's never gotten it to work right. I don't know what his problem is. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of bluehinter bluehinter
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    I'd feel a lot better if Zemeckis had said "The reason why we didn't do a sequel 20 years ago was that we didn't have a story worthy of bringing these characters back, that would be in any way as good as the original. We've got one now, and we're confident it's going to be great!"

    Rather than "Hey, that motion capture sure is neat! Those writer chaps can hammer something out. Let's make a movie!" #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Jonny_eh Jonny_eh
    11/03/09

    @bluehinter: Isn't that how all great movies are made?

    "Hey, we can make dinosaurs look realistic with computers now. Let's make a movie!" #rogerrabbit
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    Image of bakana bakana
    11/03/09

    @Jonny_eh: Actually, Spoelberg was originally going to do stop-motion. They had to do tons of tests in pre-production to decide what medium was most appropriate. You know, like a responsible artist and director would do.

    Zemekis, however, is not responsible, and at this point I'd even be willing to say he's not an artist. He IS a director, just a horrible, horrible one. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of ShadowStaarr ShadowStaarr
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    Wow, how did I never notice Jessica Rabbit didn't have a nose? #rogerrabbit
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    11/03/09

    @ShadowStaarr: Same reason I never notic... BEWBS! #rogerrabbit
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    11/03/09

    @ShadowStaarr: Perhaps you were distracted by her huge eyes.

    Like I have been for over 20 years now... wait a sec, it's been that long! #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Golem100 Golem100
    11/03/09

    @ShadowStaarr: Must be because her hair covers most of the space where a nose would be. Hahahaha! Just kidding! #rogerrabbit
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    Image of dirtybacon dirtybacon
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    What does Bob Hoskins have that is more pressing then this?

    (NOTHING dammit!) #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Cal Hawks Cal Hawks
    11/03/09

    @dirtybacon: He said in an interview that he's too old to do it now.

    I don't know if motion capture is the way to go... As long a they still look like 2D cartoons, though, I don't care.

    What I'm wondering is if they will be able to get the deals with other companies in place again. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of templepriest templepriest
    11/03/09

    @dirtybacon: Apparently he has devoted his life to travelling around the internet switching around all the thens and thans.
    Damn him anyways! #rogerrabbit
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    11/03/09

    @templepriest: Once the internets automatically correct my uses, than, and only then, will I stop using them interchangeably!

    Stuff it, jerk!! :P (thanks for the catch, actually) #rogerrabbit
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    Image of templepriest templepriest
    11/03/09

    @dirtybacon: I took a solemn oath only just this morning to clean up the internet then/than scourge by nightfall.
    Believe it or not, I'm almost done!
    You were one of the last!
    Thanks for being so co-operative. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip! Belabras: now with Kung Fu grip!
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    I'd be interested to know how they Mo-Cap Jessica's two most prominent features.

    By which I mean I would buy tickets if they are selling them. I'm just saying. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/03/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: Her eyes are purty, yes. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of ExtensionOfBob ExtensionOfBob
    11/03/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: That would be interesting to see. Fortunately, yeah, they're keeping her 2-D. I've seen some greatJR costumes...but bringing her into any sort of reality sort of takes away from her awesomeness. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    11/03/09

    In reply to Roger Rabbit And Friends Get An Upgrade To Motion Capture?
    Puh puh puh puh leaz! It's about to-to-to-to de-de-de-de-cades to-to-to-to late! #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Dr.Quatermass Dr.Quatermass
    11/03/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Win. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    11/03/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Excellent. #rogerrabbit
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    Image of Kpibca Kpibca
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    A sequel is a terrible idea anyway, because you KNOW they'll just use CGI all the way through instead of filming the sequel the right way...the way that respects the heart, artistry, soul, and passion of the original filmmakers.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    You know, I think we need some sort of Sequel/Remake Board of Approval. Something like the giant judging heads from Superman. You stand in the circle and pitch an idea as crappy as that, and they start shouting "art crime! guilty! GUILTY!" and off you go to the Phantom Zone, never to trouble the populace with your crappy-ass Will Smith-based remake schemes ever again.
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    Image of TheAlmanac TheAlmanac
    08/18/09

    @cletar: Perhaps the guilty should go to the Phantom Menace Zone...? ;)
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    Image of Carrespondent Carrespondent
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    As much as I loved the jaded quips, to so casually dismiss Jessica Rabbit's curves is just drool -- er, cruel.
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    Image of Woodsie Woodsie
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    There is no way any sequel of WFRR will hold a candle to the original.

    Why?

    1) Real-life puppeteers handled all of the "real" elements the toons held and interacted with (guns, flying bar stools, etc.), which made those characters infinitely more lifelike. Nowadays, CGI would take the place of this human element, because it's easier and cost-effective. And it would be to the sequel's detriment.

    2) There's no way you'll ever again see Warner Bros. and Disney cartoons sharing the same screen real estate. I remember press coverage at the time the original movie was released saying just that.

    3) I also remember from some of the press coverage at the time WFRR was released that some considered it to have racist overtones. I don't believe/see it, but there ya go. The kind of content in the original would never get greenlit today. Instead, we'd have some milquetoast caper plot that would not rise to the level of the original.

    Oh yeah, I agree with @PlaidNinja - no Ashton, no Mac guy, no Twilight'ers, and I'll put in one more: no Paris Hilton-style stunt casting.
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    08/18/09

    @Now With More Bob!: The charge of racist overtones come from the parallels between the way 'toons are treated in Roger Rabbit's alternate world and the way black performers were treated in the real Hollywood. For instance, when Eddie Valiant goes to the Ink and Paint Club, he is told that it is "Toon review...strictly humans only." The owners are more than happy to have toons work and perform in the club but they aren't allowed to come in as customers. This is similar to historical clubs such as the Cotton Club in which blacks were hired as performers and even wait staff but never allowed to come in as customers. And for all its vibrant imagery, Toon Town is little more than a ghetto on par with real ghettos such as Harlem or Chinatown.
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    08/18/09

    @Bill-Lee: And I know that Harlem and the Cotton Club are in New York but I am using Hollywood as a synonym for the Entertainment Industry in general.
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    Captain Lou Albano as Eddie Valiant!

    Ten points to anyone who knows the specific reason why that would be funny.
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    Image of jbq jbq
    08/18/09

    @Skunky: Duh, Super Mario... Hello, you're dealing with a bunch of pop-culture nerds here.. ;-)
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    08/18/09

    @jbq: I'm still surprised it took twenty minutes. :D
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    Image of yuzan yuzan
    08/18/09

    In reply to No Eddie Valiant In Who Framed Roger Rabbit 2? A Pox On This Sequel
    I think that Hoskins is saying that he CAN'T do a sequel because he's too old, not that he doesn't WANT to. He figures that he won't be able to keep up physically.

    But what if Zemeckis can come up with a script that contrasts Eddie Valiant's advancing age with Roger Rabbit's perpetual youth? Or maybe 2-d Roger being replaced by 3-d toons, and feeling just as old as Eddie?

    As long as Hoskins isn't replaced by Jack Black, and we don't get the dead eyes from Polar Express, we're good.
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    Image of speed321 speed321
    08/18/09

    @yuzan: Man, I was just thinking that. Wasn't Roger Rabbit taking place in the 40s, though? How old would Eddie be?
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    yuzan promoted this comment speed321 was starred speed321 was unstarred
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    08/18/09

    @speed321:
    Good point. So no 3-d if it's set in the 50s or 60s.
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