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    Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?

    Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space

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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    07/14/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    "Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?"



    I hope so. What's the fun in being on a long space mission otherwise?
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    Image of Mark 2000 Mark 2000
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    Have these idiots at NASA ever heard of the age of sailing ships? Crews have already survived isolation in cramped quarters together successfully. This is such a waste of peoples time. Go to f@#king Mars already.
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    Edited by Mark 2000 at 07/13/09 8:29 PM Mark 2000 was starred Mark 2000 was unstarred
    Image of cletar cletar
    07/13/09

    @Mark 2000:

    Weevil infested biscuits? Check!

    Limes (say no to space-scurvy)? Check!

    Cat-o'-nine-tails to enforce discipline? Check!



    Allright! Let's light this candle!
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    FOX has optioned this for a series so they have something to air next 4th of July, then cancel.
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    Image of 32ndnote 32ndnote
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    This is such a great idea! I don't know why we didn't think of using Russians and Europeans for our experiments, instead of lab rats, earlier!
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    Image of nutmeag nutmeag
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    How long to astronauts currently stay on the space station? I was thinking around 6 months, but if that were the case, this test wouldn't be necessary, would it?
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    07/13/09

    @nutmeag: It would take a lot longer than six months to reach Mars and the other planets. It is a problem that must be solved if astronauts are ever to be more than a publicity stunt as they were in during the Cold War or high tech repair men as they are used now.
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    07/13/09

    @Bill-Lee: That's what I'm saying: shouldn't the test be longer than 105 days to give more precise data? Why bother with just 105 days when they can just look at space station astronauts? To truly see if astronauts can manage to not kill each other on a Mars trip, you'd need to stick 'em in a room together for a couple of years.
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    Edited by nutmeag at 07/13/09 7:35 PM nutmeag was starred nutmeag was unstarred
    Image of Evdor Evdor
    07/13/09

    @nutmeag: Because the people that stay on the space stations for extended periods of time are in extremely poor health by the time they get off. Seriously, there's an old quasi-joke between Robert Park (a physicist) and the guy in charge of Mir. Robert Park asks what the cosmonauts on Mir did all day, and the response was "Try to stay alive."



    You also have to understand that hurtling through the abyss, dodging solar storms, with the mounting stress that you may/may not be off course, that any number of small complications could kill you, that freak accidents could kill you, or any number of terrors involved with a long flight to the moon creates different pressures than a few guys chilling in a room together. Imagine a guy who does a safety check always forgets to do one little thing. Now imagine that he does it on and off for 3 months. Now imagine discovering that, at one point, it almost killed you.



    Suddenly airlocking him doesn't sound so bad after all.
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    Image of smirkette smirkette
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    was this the same experiment that excluded female test subjects with the reasoning that they would inspire more tension and conflict?
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    07/13/09

    In reply to Will People On Long Space Missions Inevitably Kill Each Other?
    Why'd you pick the picture from 2001? The astronauts in that movie were killed by the computer.
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    07/13/09

    @Bill-Lee: Uh-oh.



    And with that face recognition program, the computers are going remember what they look like from now on.



    I'd lock my doors at night if I were them.
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    Image of adamczar adamczar
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    I can't help but feel that in 2009, we should have gotten to "the future" already. Instead this looks like stuff from the 70s. Where's the flying cars and anti-grav space crafts?
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    03/25/09

    @adamczar: the fact that the world's most reliable, longest lasting space delivery vehicle is a rocket based on an ICBM from the 50s which ran on kerosene speaks loudly that our space programs should attempt to live in the present, not the future.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    The Soyuz rocket design has been around since '67. Still the most used and reliable way of getting Up There.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    03/25/09

    @Grey_Area: is that a typo because the design has been around since '57
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    Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal
    03/25/09

    @Grey_Area: Yep, Russian engineers know what works and to only make steady, small improvements with each iteration. Evolution instead of revolution. It's given them some very reliable and reasonably priced hardware.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    03/25/09

    @tetracycloide: Hmm. The original R-7 tests were back then. The Soyuz model launch vehicle seems to have started in '66 or '67.

    But that's wiki for you. [en.wikipedia.org]
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    03/25/09

    @corpore-metal: I love that instead designing an obscenely huge Vehicle Assembly Building, the Russians build their rockets horizontally then raise them into position.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    03/25/09

    @Grey_Area: i guess it's just semantics on my part then. to me the design was the R7 and it hasn't changed, the model differences are primarily changes in construction materials and techniques.
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    Image of limber limber
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    It's gorgeous, but does it land again? Or does all of that punkery break up and whizz around in orbit, forever threatening our satellites and space projects?


    Do they still do that capsule/splashdown thing?


    And where do they attach the bat?

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    Image of phoenix phoenix
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    Baikonur is really a fabulous place for space launches - it's still so old school but so high tech at the same time; it's kind of a gleaming steampunk kind of environment. It's grittiness is a completely different feel from the clean, high tech atmosphere around American space facilities. :)


    Special places in my heart for both, I have to say.

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    Image of BeowulfRex BeowulfRex
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    It's got that "I built this out in my barn out of a '58 Plymouth" look to it.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    03/25/09

    @BeowulfRex: that's more or less how the R7 was made although from a V2 instead of a '58 plymouth.
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    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    Welcome to Cosmodrome!


    One rocket in, One rocket out! Hopefully.

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    Image of Zack Stentz Zack Stentz
    03/25/09

    In reply to Kazakhstan's Cosmodrome Prepares for the Conquest of Space
    There's a weird, functional beauty to these pictures that it's difficult to put one's finger on-- Sovietpunk?
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    03/25/09

    @Zack Stentz: It's a retro beauty of form following function.


    Also Cosmodrome is just about the coolest name for a rocket I can think of.

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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    03/25/09

    @NerD!!!: The Cosmodrome is where they launch the rockets from... Soyuz is the rocket.
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    Image of Gann Gann
    03/25/09

    @Zack Stentz: Please don't try to 'punk the functional beauty of exquisite engineering.
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    03/25/09

    @Charlie Jane Anders: Thanks for the clarification.


    Even the name evokes an Art Deco aesthetic.

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