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    Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas

    Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus

    But Is Santa Faster Than A Speeding Bullet?

    The Evil Santas of Science Fiction

    Santa Claus vs. Neo in the Martian Matrix

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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    Wow, those "Peace on Earth" cartoons are FASCINATING.


    I find it very interesting that in both versions, the animals become completely anthropomorphized after the age of man, rather than reappropriating mankind's remains in an animal-y sort of way. Does this imply that the animals would eventually begin behaving the same as the humans did? Or is destruction inherent not in human(-style) society, but only in humans themselves (in an original sin sort of way?).


    Also, note the years. 1939 and 1955. So the 1939 cartoon must have been made by isolationists - communists perhaps? Note that the 1939 version alters the carol's lyrics to avoid reference to God, whereas the 1955 remake not only uses the traditional lyrics, but finishes with a shot of a (broken) stained glass cruxifix and a shining star.


    And um... I have more notes. God I wish I still had an excuse to write term papers.

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    Image of geekgrrl geekgrrl
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    that "Peace on Earth" is powerful stuff. to think there hadn't been any thermonuclear war up to that point.
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    Image of spookcountry spookcountry
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    Or then again, the quote might be:-


    Mourn not for us, for we have known the light,
    Have looked on beauty, have lived in peace and love,
    Grieve but for those who go alone, unwise,
    To die in darkness, never having see the Sun

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/22/08

    @spookcountry: The first one scans better. Nice feel either way.
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    Image of spookcountry spookcountry
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    I always remember one bit from the Twilight Zone episode, the small poem the race that knew it was going to die left:-


    Mourn not for us
    We have looked on beauty
    Have lived in peace and loved
    Mourn for those who live in darkness
    And never see the sun.


    Or at least thats what I remember of it from a couple of decades ago, anyone care to correct me?

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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    12/22/08

    @spookcountry: Huh, don't know that episode, but what you quoted reminds me of this bit from Oliver Wendell Holmes' "The Voiceless."


    Nay, grieve not for the dead alone

    Whose song has told their hearts' sad story,--

    Weep for the voiceless, who have known

    The cross without the crown of glory!

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    Check out the story "And When They Appear" in Gene Wolfe's Strange Travellers.

    A little boy named Shelby has been orphaned by the violent aftermath of a huge societal breakdown of some sort. He is cared for by his family AI controlled house that throws a Christmas party for him replete with holographic holiday characters even as mob of looters approaches.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    That Simmons story is seriously disturbing.


    Of course, he would take that as a compliment.

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/22/08

    @DrEmilioLizardo: What collection is that in?
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    12/22/08

    @Grey_Area: Prayers to broken stones. I think it's out of print. I only know because I just read it after it was discussed here on io9 a few months back.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/22/08

    @DrEmilioLizardo: Whaaa? I think I have that. To the Stacks!
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag GitEmSteveDave_ForgotNametag
    12/22/08

    In reply to Have Yourself a Post-Apocalyptic Christmas
    Wow, I had completely forgotten about Cleopatra 2525.
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    Image of Platypus Man Platypus Man
    12/20/08

    In reply to Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus
    "But in an era where popular culture is so dominated by superheroes that Will Smith is still allowed to walk the streets after Hancock"


    Is this implying that Hancock was bad? I thought it was a pretty good movie and in no way deserved this comment.

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    Image of Corvus-Corax Corvus-Corax
    12/20/08

    In reply to Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus
    There is more the one, after all SinterKlass comes on 5 December, Santa Claus on 24 December, Granfather Winter comes on 31 December, and La Befana & the Magi come on 5 January.
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    12/20/08

    @Corvus-Corax: I think he was only talking about the REAL one.
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    Image of Hookey Hookey
    12/20/08

    @RAHfanboy for one, welcomes his Marxist overlords.: What, the Coca-Cola one?
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    12/20/08

    @Hookey: It's the REAL THING!
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    Image of bakana bakana
    12/20/08

    In reply to Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus
    Using a definition of superhero broad enough to include Santa Claus would definitely guarantee he wasn't the first... and that the first was definitely ages before Jesus. Think Hercules, Amon-Ra, UtnaPishtim.


    (I don't know if Jesus would qualify as a superhero anymore than, say, Gandhi or MLK or whatever. Though most Marvel superheroes seem to share his uncanny ability to rise from the dead...)

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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    12/20/08

    @bakana: I don't think Gandhi or MLK raised the dead, healed the sick, walked on water or changed it into wine. The loaves and fishes trick was worthy of a Super Hero as well.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/20/08

    In reply to Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus
    This isn't Science Fiction but it does have a lovely Holiday feel:


    Nicholas Was...

    [www.neilgaiman.com]

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    12/20/08

    In reply to Five Sci-Fi Rebirths For Santa Claus
    This is silly. It is well known that Santa Claus is really your father. That's right everybody, he's Graeme's dad.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    12/20/08

    @Grey_Area: That made me lol
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/20/08

    @Makidian: Glad to be of service.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/15/08

    In reply to But Is Santa Faster Than A Speeding Bullet?
    I like this. Funny stuff. Putting the antlers on Superdog a la the Grinch is a cute touch.
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    Image of SundaySunday SundaySunday
    12/15/08

    In reply to But Is Santa Faster Than A Speeding Bullet?
    If you're in the shopping mall and you see a man dressed as Superman, you should NOT encourage your kids to sit in his lap. Just sayin'.
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    Image of eviladrian eviladrian
    12/15/08

    In reply to But Is Santa Faster Than A Speeding Bullet?
    Santa doesn't actually fly around at super-speed, that'd never work.


    He puts himself in a quantum superposition, then he only has to deliver one present, once, to do the whole world.


    That's why you have to be asleep when he shows up, if you saw him the waveform would collapse and you wouldn't get any presents.

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    Image of Charax Charax
    12/15/08

    @eviladrian:

    Quantum Santa is awesome
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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    12/15/08

    @Charax: I thought the wave collapse only resulted in loss of memory of the encounter?


    I can't remember for some reason.

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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    12/15/08

    @strider_mt2k: Daniel Craig in the greatest Christmas story ever told:


    A Quantum of Santa.

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    Image of Log1c Log1c
    12/15/08

    @eviladrian: No no no. Santa delivers Schroedinger's Present. Its everything at once and only becomes a specific present once opened.
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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    12/16/08

    @Log1c: Don't observe it!

    Don't observe it!


    DAMN YOU HEISENBERG!!!!


    DAMN YOU TO HELLL!!!

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