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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    12:25 PM

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    Unfortunately, the website seems to have missed the point, even though this quote is right there on the page:

    "She can only tolerate things that could have been worn, to a general lack of comment, during any year between 1945 and 2000. "

    Everything they show would have been glaringly comment-inducing when worn by a woman before probably the mid-sixties... Certainly before the mid-fifties.
    -Kle. #williamgibson
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    06:06 AM

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    Damn, we've broken the site, apparently.

    I love the idea that, with Gibson's work, we're moving back from a not-so-distant future to a not-quite-there-yet present.

    Give it another two books and he'll be predicting tomorrow. #williamgibson
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    Image of Jeremy Tapsell Jeremy Tapsell
    11/06/09

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    I also saw Marly Krushkova as a strong feminine Gibson character. When I read Pattern Recognition after Count Zero I saw echoes of her in Cayce. And her anti-style is actual style. Like Kat says in her article, Cayce embodies the quality of cut, context of style, and the semiotics of fashion which a lot of people who love clothes are more interested in than branding or elitism- that is what true style is.

    In a strange way it is that mentality, that awareness of fashions semiotics, that creates an elitism in style. It is what makes certain designs and brands more desirable, and therefore more marketable.
    I suppose Cayce's ability to sense this is what makes her a sought after coolhunter. #williamgibson
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    11/06/09

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    i reread this book at least 15 times.

    i have purchased at least 8 copies. 1 permanant copy, several loaner copies and several gift copies.

    it is my answer to, "whats your favorite book?" #williamgibson
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/06/09

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    William Gibson's prose is just beautiful. Not in the flowery, lyrical way that so many writers strive for and end up sounding like Stephanie Meyer. The bandwidth and information density are so high. A lesser writer would take twice as many pages to get the same information across. I liked the original SF well enough, but this near future stuff he's been writing lately shows that SF can be literature. #williamgibson
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    11/06/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: Spook Country... also pretty damn fabulous. #williamgibson
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    Image of lazyeight lazyeight
    06:29 AM

    @PostMarque: I'm not a conspiracy buff, but I got the feeling in Spook Country that Gibson was circling the edges of the now. Gibson said himself that he wished to write about happenings 15 minutes into the future. I think he blew it, and instead wrote only about 5 minutes out. #williamgibson
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    09:13 AM

    @lazyeight: 15 minutes into my future may include a trip to the water closet to release my bowels... prolly not a chart topping best seller. #williamgibson
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    11/06/09

    In reply to William Gibson's Pattern Recognition Is A "Stealth Fashion Bible"
    Cayce is an appealing character (to men, anyway; I have a feeling that to women she may seem a little too much like the super-thin, super-sophisticated girl a couple of years ahead in high school and college; nice Jane Birkin reference there, Gibson), but "rejection" is a funny way to put it: after all, "Pilates" is a brand name, with all sorts of very expensive branding (as a friend of mine who is an instructor mentions from time to time). Moreover, a pair of Levi's with "Levi Strauss & Co." ground off the buttons remains a pair of Levi's, maybe even if one unpicks the rear pocket stitching. Buzz Rickson is a brand, too, with logos. At a little remove from the novel, Cayce seems more like a hipster and less like a victim of an overbranded society -- "I'm allergic to brands" sounds like the sort of thing that one would hear pretty regularly in Williamsburg and Portland, etc. #williamgibson
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    11/06/09

    @Rasselas: Also, if her name is an allusion to the psychic Edgar Cayce, as many people seem to think (rather than to the hacker in Neuromancer), I think it'd be pronounced "Casey." #williamgibson
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    Image of sjct sjct
    11/06/09

    @Rasselas: I'm a woman and I found her very appealing as a character primarily because I could identify with her. #williamgibson
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    11/06/09

    @Rasselas: She tells Voytek that she was named for Edgar Cayce, but that her name is pronounced "Case." There's no "seem to think" about it. #williamgibson
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    11/06/09

    @sjct: im a guy. and i also identify with the allergy reaction she has. tommy hilifgher and walmart draw the same reaction from me. i broke out in hives once at both stores. #williamgibson
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    Awesome! But what about us knuckledraggers?

    Front of T-shirt -- A Haynes Raptor manual cover.

    Back -- A color picture of a Raptor, with Aaron Douglas in overalls doing a teardown, and two guys watching him, taking notes and pics.

    I would prolly pay 50 cubits for that shit, Reece. Do-eet! #starwars
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    obscure reference count on this shirt approaching critical levels. let me be the first to admit that i only got two of them off the bat being forced to look up whatever a 'hayes manual' was afterward. #starwars
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/03/09

    @tetracycloide: FYI: Haynes manuals are basically real-life Starfleet Technical manuals for cars. For amateur mechanics like myself, who don't like getting screwed by hack greasemonkeys mucking about under my hood, they're livesavers. Everything you could possibly want to know about your year, make and model vehicle is in these things.

    Since I am a geek, I actually also read mine for fun. #starwars
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    11/03/09

    @Bigdamnhero: thanks! i also looked them up immediately upon hearing the reference and not know what it was. i hate not knowing things. #starwars
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    Speaking as someone that has owned many Haynes manuals for motorcycles past and present, this is inspired! #starwars
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    Haynes are the best manuals. #starwars
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    11/03/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: My 74-Z speeder is still on cinderblocks out back, while I'm trying to decipher the Chilton I bought for it. Arg. #starwars
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    Image of micah1_8 micah1_8
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    This would be so awesome as a book cover for a real haynes manual. #starwars
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    Damn you Charlie Jane Anders for making me use my credit card at 4am, Damn you !! #starwars
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    Image of strideo strideo
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    Heh heh, I remember when I had an old 1983 Monte Carlo. The Haynes repair manual would always be in the trunk of the car. #starwars
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    i want to go to there. #starwars
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    Image of Aaron Heil Aaron Heil
    11/03/09

    In reply to R2D2's Secret Controller — Revealed!
    just watch the movies... they are all about how the R2 unit is trying to kill the skywalker family and failing... #starwars
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