I know I stopped reading because of the crossover overkill. I'll pick up trades but I'm not putting out 20 dollars a week to still miss parts of a story.
If marvel wants to start making money introduce the writers you have exclusives with to the larger world. Three stories begging for any kind of live action are Criminal, Powers and the Hood (yes I know BKV isn't tired down by marvel.) They aren't tired IPs that everyone already knows. #disneymarvel
As a former financial specialist, economist, and still a fulltime comic fan, I sold my stake in marvel the day this deal was announced. The next few movies are still outside of the mouses house. So while there is no doubt that disney will market the crap out of every marvel brand imaginable and make some good coin, I don't see marvel doing much better.
The movies are hit and miss. For every spiderman, there is spiderman 2 and 3. 3 being the one that might have killed the franchise. For every Ironman there is Punisher and Elektra.
If they can avoid cheap productions running roughshod over decent titles, they will be ok. #disneymarvel
@HarbingerTG: Clearly, The Mouse House was in this for the IPs. I think the big issue is how much the litigation is going to cost them securing those IPs (considering how slapdash many of the contracts were), and how many properties they're going to lose/payouts to creators. Disney bought Marvel for such a high price relative to their P/E ratio that they're in this for the long haul... #disneymarvel
@PVIII: Well, IIRC, MVL was hovering near 40/share before the economy tanked so it isn't a bad call. There is so much IP they can monetize along with banana montana and the clonas bros.
And if memory serves correctly. Marvel borrowed money from itself to open their studios with 10-20 lesser titles as collateral. I still haven't figured out how they pulled that off.
I also believe some MVL shareholders petitioned to stop the buyout, but I don't know where that case is currently standing. #disneymarvel
I don't think this is really that big of a deal or should be a massive surprise.
Marvel's film branch is going to be a bigger cash cow and more popular than the original comics imprint.
Any year where they don't have any significant major film releases is naturally going to mean a lack of interest in their books and merchandising compared to a year that had 2 major movie releases.
We're still in the lull period before their ambitious cinematic gameplan starts to play out with Iron Man 2, then Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc.
When that happens Marvel's worth could jump well past what they saw last year. Which is probably why investors wouldn't be too worried too as today the stock is still pretty much the same level as it was since the Disney buyout.
Graeme, I think you're more in the right about how big a part the movies are in the Marvel brand now; even having X-Men Origins : Wolverine in theaters is worth more than all of their comics put together.
While they will try to continue and keep the comic book end profitable with the cross-overs and big events, I think Marvel's best bet money-wise is to use the comics as a platform to develop new IPs for movies and video games - i.e. Runaways.
@Brian St. Claire: Since X-Men Origins: Wolverine was developed by Fox, I can't imagine how Marvel made money off of it, especially since those same people who saw itaren't going to go out and buy the comic after watching that abortion of a movie. #disneymarvel
You better not mean Incredible Hulk. That movie was good.
Also, why is the Hulk the first of the Marvel film series' to embrace alternate comic titles for movie sequels?
I think the Amazing Spider-Man or The Uncanny X-Men or Invincible Iron Man would have been great titles for those series instead of the usual numeric markings.
Plus, how cool would it have been if the movie posters paid better homage to classic covers from their respective series? (Spider-Man especially!)
Missed opportunities across the board if you ask me. #disneymarvel
@AldoraGreel: I rather they just gave the movies title's that corresponded with the film's specific plot or theme. In the same way an overarching comic story has a single name.
I think Batman Begins and Dark Knight sort of fit into that, although I was kinda disappointed that it wasn't "Batman: Begins" and "Batman: The Dark Knight", if only for cataloging purposes. #disneymarvel
There were quite a few ongoing comic series that continued to amaze this year.
Paul Dini's run on Detective Comics was absolutely superb, and even if you dont share his hard-on for Zantanna (Have you checked yourself for a pulse lately?), you have to admit the new Ventriloquist is shaping up to be a fascinating villain.
Angel: After The Fall and Buffy: Season VIII have both got me hooked, even though I haven't watched either series since they stopped airing first run episodes. My only major complaint with Angel, is that the artwork is so shoddy in places it's very difficult to tell who's who, especially when they're reintroducing some minor character who appeared in a few episodes of the TV series. That, and I still don't know what's up with the talking fish.
In Fables, we had the rather abrupt ending to the massive story arc that's dominated most of the previous 50 issues. Suddenly the war with the adversary is over, and the good guys have won. Hurray! Umm... Does that mean the story is over? Not by a long shot! Kudos to Bill Willingham for showing that winning the war is only half the battle, and picking up the pieces can have just as dramatic consequences.
The Walking Dead My god. This series has more twists and turns than Lombard Street in San Francisco. Thought your favorite characters were safe as long as they stayed inside the prison? Ha! Think again suckers! Well, at least Rick's family is going to be okay... sonovabitch!!!! Yay, not everyone was slaughtered! Wait, who are these new guys? Huh... Did that guy just say he knew what was causing the zombies?!?!
I stopped reading Hellblazer for quite a while, since it didn't really seem to be going anywhere, but Jock seems to have brought back the bastard we all know and love. The bit with the bones of St. Nicholas has got to be one of the single most bad-ass moments in the entire series.
This year also saw a few new issues of Fell (though not as many as their should be), Buckaroo Banzai (which wasn't to everyone's taste, but I enjoyed it), Criminal Macabre, Jack of Fables, No Hero, and Ellis's run on Thunderbolts.
@JohnnyZito: Agreed, loved RIP. The fact that loose ends aren't tied up and there's still some unanswered issues makes it, in my mind, all the more appealing.
Plus, trying to finalize this story with Final Crisis starting immediately afterwards...not so easy. The big question is what they'll do with Batman post-Crisis.
11/03/09
11/03/09
11/03/09
If marvel wants to start making money introduce the writers you have exclusives with to the larger world. Three stories begging for any kind of live action are Criminal, Powers and the Hood (yes I know BKV isn't tired down by marvel.) They aren't tired IPs that everyone already knows. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
The movies are hit and miss. For every spiderman, there is spiderman 2 and 3. 3 being the one that might have killed the franchise. For every Ironman there is Punisher and Elektra.
If they can avoid cheap productions running roughshod over decent titles, they will be ok. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
11/03/09
And if memory serves correctly. Marvel borrowed money from itself to open their studios with 10-20 lesser titles as collateral. I still haven't figured out how they pulled that off.
I also believe some MVL shareholders petitioned to stop the buyout, but I don't know where that case is currently standing. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
Marvel's film branch is going to be a bigger cash cow and more popular than the original comics imprint.
Any year where they don't have any significant major film releases is naturally going to mean a lack of interest in their books and merchandising compared to a year that had 2 major movie releases.
We're still in the lull period before their ambitious cinematic gameplan starts to play out with Iron Man 2, then Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc.
When that happens Marvel's worth could jump well past what they saw last year. Which is probably why investors wouldn't be too worried too as today the stock is still pretty much the same level as it was since the Disney buyout.
11/03/09
While they will try to continue and keep the comic book end profitable with the cross-overs and big events, I think Marvel's best bet money-wise is to use the comics as a platform to develop new IPs for movies and video games - i.e. Runaways.
(Where IS my Runaways movie, anyway?) #disneymarvel
11/03/09
11/03/09
11/03/09
11/04/09
11/03/09
Also, why is the Hulk the first of the Marvel film series' to embrace alternate comic titles for movie sequels?
I think the Amazing Spider-Man or The Uncanny X-Men or Invincible Iron Man would have been great titles for those series instead of the usual numeric markings.
Plus, how cool would it have been if the movie posters paid better homage to classic covers from their respective series? (Spider-Man especially!)
Missed opportunities across the board if you ask me. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
I think Batman Begins and Dark Knight sort of fit into that, although I was kinda disappointed that it wasn't "Batman: Begins" and "Batman: The Dark Knight", if only for cataloging purposes. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
Sigh. #disneymarvel
11/03/09
02/19/09
02/17/09
If something is published, but isn't in Google, does it really exist?
02/17/09
That yields at least some googling.
02/17/09
01/06/09
Gorilla = ape.
Monkey = a totally different kind of animal than an ape.
Thus endeth the lesson
01/06/09
01/06/09
(Action Semantic Bastard: now I, too, am stealing your thunder.)
12/30/08
12/30/08
Paul Dini's run on Detective Comics was absolutely superb, and even if you dont share his hard-on for Zantanna (Have you checked yourself for a pulse lately?), you have to admit the new Ventriloquist is shaping up to be a fascinating villain.
Angel: After The Fall and Buffy: Season VIII have both got me hooked, even though I haven't watched either series since they stopped airing first run episodes. My only major complaint with Angel, is that the artwork is so shoddy in places it's very difficult to tell who's who, especially when they're reintroducing some minor character who appeared in a few episodes of the TV series. That, and I still don't know what's up with the talking fish.
In Fables, we had the rather abrupt ending to the massive story arc that's dominated most of the previous 50 issues. Suddenly the war with the adversary is over, and the good guys have won. Hurray! Umm... Does that mean the story is over? Not by a long shot! Kudos to Bill Willingham for showing that winning the war is only half the battle, and picking up the pieces can have just as dramatic consequences.
The Walking Dead My god. This series has more twists and turns than Lombard Street in San Francisco. Thought your favorite characters were safe as long as they stayed inside the prison? Ha! Think again suckers! Well, at least Rick's family is going to be okay... sonovabitch!!!! Yay, not everyone was slaughtered! Wait, who are these new guys? Huh... Did that guy just say he knew what was causing the zombies?!?!
I stopped reading Hellblazer for quite a while, since it didn't really seem to be going anywhere, but Jock seems to have brought back the bastard we all know and love. The bit with the bones of St. Nicholas has got to be one of the single most bad-ass moments in the entire series.
This year also saw a few new issues of Fell (though not as many as their should be), Buckaroo Banzai (which wasn't to everyone's taste, but I enjoyed it), Criminal Macabre, Jack of Fables, No Hero, and Ellis's run on Thunderbolts.
12/30/08
12/31/08
Agreed, loved RIP. The fact that loose ends aren't tied up and there's still some unanswered issues makes it, in my mind, all the more appealing.
Plus, trying to finalize this story with Final Crisis starting immediately afterwards...not so easy. The big question is what they'll do with Batman post-Crisis.
12/30/08
12/30/08
12/30/08
12/30/08