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halloweenjack, King of the Wild Frontier
04/15/09

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Rule 34 is a harsh mistress (hurr hurr, I said "mistress). Once, as a joke, I wrote a paragraph which set up an encounter between Legolas and the Ultimate Marvel Comics version of Aunt May, and someone begged me to finish it. (No, I didn't, but feel free to run with it.)
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
04/15/09

@halloweenjack: Well, damn, that would have been a happy day for Aunt May.
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KhaiJB
04/15/09

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hold on. you mention Maul and Obiwan but fail to mention Sith Academy....?

trust me even with the Slash.... it's incredibly funny at times...
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Burke
04/15/09

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Yeah, I'd say a lot of the slash stuff is rather insulting to the source material and the characters themselves. Honestly, these people need a better hobby.

And no, before you cry 'homophobe', I'm not. I just think a lot of the slash stuff I've tried to force my way through reading has been dreadful. The so-called 'authors' wouldn't know sensuality and eroticism if it sat in their laps and did, er, 'naughty things' to them. :)
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blackeyedgurl
04/15/09

@Burke: Then you're reading the wrong fic.
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Jonn
04/16/09

@blackeyedgurl: Which, according to Sturgeon's law, is most of it.
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writermind
04/15/09

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I do not consider myself to be the kind of person who is insensitive to the homosexual community. However, I sometimes wonder why so many people feel so hard pressed to jam the homosexual lifestyle down the public's collective throats. (Pardon the pun.)
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RadProphet
04/15/09

@Antediluvian: BTW... LOL at "lifestyle"... doesn't it crack you up? Where can I buy my "How to live the lavish lifestyle of teh gheys"?

Wait, since I'm bi, am I just a failure at lifestyle-living?
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Antediluvian
04/15/09

@RadProphet: Well, RP, I don't know what sort of lifestyle you're failing at, but I know I'm failing at living an outdoorsy lifestyle (not taking enough time to go hiking and camping), and I'm sort of failing at living a healthy-diet lifestyle (really need to eat better), but I'm doing pretty well at the keeping up with CSI on TiVO lifestyle.

And if you're bi, in the eyes of those who consider GLBT folks' lives to be "lifestyles," you're twice as condemned. Me, I think you're twice as lucky. :-)
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
04/15/09

@Antediluvian: Uh-oh, I have the same lifestyle as you. No outdoors, lots of junk food, lots of CSI-watching.

Does this mean I'm gay too?

Or should we just buy popcorn and watch TV together? Which of us has the biggest TV?
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Jonn
04/16/09

@writermind: This isn't about the public. It's about the emotional pleasure the fans get from seeing two dudes-or much more rarely, chicks-do each other. Slash is generally kept very private. To quote Wikipedia;

>Slash fiction has been described as important to the LGBT community and the formation of queer identities, as it represents a resistance to the expectation of compulsory heterosexuality, but has also been noted as being unrepresentative of the gay community, being more a medium to express feminist dissatisfactions with speculative fiction.

I'm not too sure about that last bit. Check out these links;

[tvtropes.org]

[tvtropes.org]
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EBone
04/15/09

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Isn't there a ton of Janeway/7 of 9 slash out there?
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thesis
04/14/09

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Mpreg always squicks me. I like slash, but mpreg just boggles my mind. I can't accept it, I guess, since it's not biologically possible (no matter how much work the slash writer puts into making it biologically possible).

But, then again, I did install a hack on Sims 2 that allows my same sex Sims to get pregnant by each other. So, in some ways, I'm a hypocrite, and I'll admit it.
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Jonn
04/16/09

@thesis: I once wrote an MPreg fic that was supposed to parody MPreg fics. It somehow drifted into outright humor, and is easily the most popular fic I've ever writter.
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DumbledoreCalrissian
04/14/09

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Has this managed to go on this long with no mention of Wincest?
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Jonn
04/16/09

@DumbledoreCalrissian: I don't think it counts once it's been acknowledged on the show.
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xen
04/14/09

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Oh, come on! You're ignoring some pretty classic couples here:

Where's The X-Files's Mulder/Krychek? Starsky/Hutch? Hilghlader's Duncan/Methos? (well Methos/anyone, really) The Sentinel's Jim/Blair? Smallville's Clark/Lex... wait. here's a handy list:

[fanlore.org]
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Charlie Jane Anders
04/14/09

@xenakis333: Hence "unsung heroes." I admit I was pushing it with Obi-Wan, but these are mostly pairings that usually get overlooked. Plus did Starsky and Hutch become science fiction and I missed it?
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twophrasebark
04/14/09

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What about Col. Tigh and Cavil?

I'm not very good at this, am I?
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twophrasebark
04/14/09

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What about Hurley and Sawyer?
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bonniegrrl
04/14/09

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WHAT?! No Spike/Angel love?
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CharlesCabbichoke
04/14/09

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Slash is the low-hanging fruit of the fanfic world and ordinary well crafted fanfic set in has all but disappeared because of it.

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wealhtheow
04/16/09

@CharlesCabbichoke: It really depends on the fandom. A fandom like Highlander or Due South has a lot of male slash fic (mostly because the majority of the characters are male), but for every slash fic in Harry Potter there are fifteen awful het Mary Sues. The X-files fandom was largely Mulder/Scully. Terminator fandom is mostly John Connor/Cameron.

And let's be honest--"well crafted fanfic" is always hard to find. I find it's best to just find a few good authors and follow them into whatever fandom they're writing in.
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Jonn
04/16/09

@wealhtheow: And strangely, most Mary Sues are focused like a laser on Severus Snape.
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techgoddess: Only .002 cents per byte
04/14/09

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What about the great Malcolm Reed from Enterprise? He was supposed to be gay but they nixed that...
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twophrasebark
04/14/09

What about Data and Geordi?
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hdgotham
04/14/09

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Every male ever in Highlander. Seriously, try to find a Highlander fic that is not slash, I dare you.
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Slovenly Muse
04/14/09

@hdgotham: Ha! It's so true! I even saw an ad online for a DVD the franchise had come out with that was an interview with Methos. One of the producers (I think) sat down with Peter Wingfield in character as Methos and asked him questions about Methos' life. My favourite bit was when the producer was trying to ask him if he'd ever had sex with men, as you'd think it would happen after 5000 years of life, only he couldn't just ask the question, he had to dance around the subject in the most awkward and embarrassing way I've ever seen anyone try to inquire about someone else's sex life, and when the question is finally asked (or at least hinted at strongly enough), 'Methos' just looks at him and says:

"The answer to your question is, Duncan's not my type."

I pretty much died laughing.
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alphanumeric1971
04/14/09

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WOW. there are alot of repressed people making comments today.

C'mon people. Fan writers do it because it's fun and silly, if you don't like it don't read it.

And maybe ask yourself WHY you don't like it so much...
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Jonn
04/16/09

@alphanumeric1971: Gosh, I love cliched, defensive responses.
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