Wow. This list hit the mark in so many ridiculous ways I can't even start. Well played. :D
Much love for including ZERO-enabled mobile suits on the list too; I had all but forgotten about them. And much much love for including GiTS on the list; I think you were right yesterday - more intuitive inclusion on this list than yesterday's. And Gally! Well done. ::salutes::
Neon Genesis Evangelion only gets honorable mention?! well let me tell you,,,,,,uh, wait.....wait no, Evas aren't remote-controlled at all if you're "piloting"them that would have to be under yesterday's "things to download your soul into"....my mistake.
But why doesn't Io9 have a dedicated anime column? You like Gundam, you like Ghost in the Shelll....
@CodenameV: yet you take time away from reporting on anime stuff to report on a bad Witches of Eastwick remake, et al....anime is great, but just as the Oscars dont' consider scifi to be "mature", scifi doesn't like anime.
@CodenameV: Evangelion sucks. The mecha/aliens plot is used quite a bit - maybe Evangelion was the first, I don't know, but there is a lot of sci-fi anime out there.
No love for tabletop role-playing games in either of these lists?
Shadowrun has riggers (a term that, I believe, was originally used with this meaning in Walter John Williams' Hard Wired) who plug into drones and vehicles either directly or remotely, giving them enhanced reaction time and finer control over the vehicle.
There are at least two transhumanist RPGs I know of that allow for player characters to copy their personalities into digital form: the out-of-print but not out-of-stock Transhuman Space from Steve Jackson Games and the Creative Commons Licensed (and therefore free in PDF; just Google "Eclipse Phase RPG free download" and poke around a little) Eclipse Phase from Catalyst Games.
In EarthBound Ness and his friends must have their souls placed in robot bodies in order to travel through time because time travel destroys organic matter. Though technically this seems like complete transference rather than remote control, they get their bodies back afterward so I thought it fit better in this post.
In the "Ghost in the Shell 2.0: Man Machine Interface" comic, Motoko Aramaki encounters multiple versions of her self (or shells) which have split off and are operating individually, causing a bit of a philosophical headache for her original (or is it?) self.
@AutonymousPrime: I thought that was the principle issue in the original movie: Major Kusanagi is riding on the canal boat through a flooded Tokyo, looks up, and sees a woman eating in a second story restaurant that looks exactly like her. Until then, she had assumed that her ghost (consciousness) had been copied from her original body into the cyborg body. But now she's faced with the possibility that she's just an AI much like the artifact she and Section 9 are hunting.
@Chip Overclock: it was, or so I got from that sequence as well...that's one of the strongest points in the movie to me...the musing on what makes a soul a soul...
@dumanue: That's my take on it too (and one of the things that makes it such a great movie: raising these kinds of existential questions... something Roger Ebert alludes to in his review BTW).
Forget those microbots in Futurama. I'd rather have the worms. They're like organic versions of nanotechnology making you, stronger, faster, smarter....
Just keep away from my pelvic splanchnic ganglion...
I could see you leaving Alita off of yesterday's list, even though her newest body is running on a neuro-chip instead of a flesh brain, but this category was made for the cybernetically enhanced martian menace. From her original Berserker body, to her her sound barrier-breaking Rollerball body, to her latest Imaginos Version 2.0 body that is powered by a freaking black hole, Alita knows how to accessorize her grey matter no matter what the season.
@Charlie Jane Anders: Oh, I see what happened... I had the page open to "gunnm" in my browser and mistakenly thought it was the "Gundam" page, so I closed it.
@Charlie Jane Anders: I'd heard rumours (probably long ago on io9) that James Cameron would be directing a Battle Angel Alita movie, but is this a for sure thing?
The ZERO system is an interpretation of an older Gundam concept called the "Psycoframe."
From wikipedia:
"Appearing in Char's Counterattack, the psycoframe is a technology that builds the psycommu system into nano-receptors within the structural framework of a mobile suit. This allows an extremely high concentration of psycommu perception, and a Newtype pilot would be able to control the mobile suit as if it were his/her own body (somewhat similar to how the suits in G Gundam are controlled). Traditional psycommu systems require sizeable sub-systems, and are typically mounted on larger platforms such as a mobile armor or an uncommonly large mobile suit. With the development of the psycoframe, it became possible to implement a psycommu system into a smaller mobile suit."
You do realize that Major Motoko Kusanagi in Ghost in the Shell has a completely synthetic body? Sure she can also use her hacking skills to control robots and others, but her consciousness was downloaded to a "cyberbrain" when she was just a child.
@AxelHaedjinn: 'cyberbrain' are just organic brains augmented with mechanical parts. so her original body is not fully synthetic since her brain is still original, no 'download' ever took place.
@tetracycloide: I think that's one of the existential issues brought up in the original film: Major Kusanagi is on the canal boat and looks up to see a woman in a restaurant who looks just like her. So is the Major an organic brain in a cyborg body, or merely an AI, much like the one they are hunting, in completely synthetic body copied after the woman she saw? I think this is what she's pondering when she and Bateau are on the boat.
@Chip Overclock: The Major isn't an AI. AI means artificial intelligence. The Major's ghost, aka her mind and soul is in tact and that is what controls the synthetic bodies.
@ataturk returns: The second manga (Man Machine Interface) follows several of her purely digital offspring she had with the self-aware AI Puppet master. What would that be categorized as? In the universe of the GitS manga the distinction between Digital Intelligence and Biological Intelligence is purely academic.
@Deadlinex: Functionally, yes. But the existential issue here is whether the Major has been lied to all her "life" such that she has never been a biological intelligence and is purely an artifact. IMO there's a difference whether you start out knowing your an AI or find out much later in life.
I think it's an interesting question (something Australian author Greg Egan would probably write about).
@Chip Overclock: Funny, it just occurred to me that I read Phillip K. Dick's story "The Electric Ant" just this morning in THE BEST OF FANTASY AND SCIENCE FICTION: 60TH ANNIVERSARY ANTHOLOGY. It deals with this very issue.
(And I still got misty eyed at the end of "Flowers for Algernon" even though this must be the third or fourth time I've read it.)
Now, what about robots that jack into humans?
There was, kind of, Agent Smith in the Matrix films.
Oh, and Innerspace had folks in robots inside other folks!
Mutants looks like the bastard child of 28 Days Later and Children of Men.
And Mer can delete my comments all she wants, but I still say it's a little arrogant of Mexico to think it would be the recipient of outsourced tele-presence mecha labor instead of India, where all the tech jobs are going these days. I mean who would you trust with your million dollar robotic drones: the culture that believes the 80 work week starts at age 8, or the one that came up with the concept of "Siesta?"
@cash907: I know this is pedantic, but you do realize that the "siesta" is pretty much what all near-equatorial countries around the world do to avoid their farmers dropping dead from mid-afternoon heat, right?
I mean... originally it wasn't just nappy time for "dem lazy messicans".
@TomSkylark: I dream about a zombie movie who's plot is that in the near future, there are so many zombie movie makers in the world that one day they just all mutate and start to eat us.
The kicker? The whole thing will be filmed in anti-zombie movie cliche. Long shots, panoramic views, steady cameras, no jump cutting, almost no blood at all.
@Pope John Peeps II: I'd watch it if they started eating each other, which would be both fun and a commentary on the glut of shaky-cam jump-cut zombie movies.
Don't forget a nice instrumental score, all acoustic.
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I would suggest that Bender is clearly a person, just not a human person.
-Kle.
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Much love for including ZERO-enabled mobile suits on the list too; I had all but forgotten about them. And much much love for including GiTS on the list; I think you were right yesterday - more intuitive inclusion on this list than yesterday's. And Gally! Well done. ::salutes::
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But why doesn't Io9 have a dedicated anime column? You like Gundam, you like Ghost in the Shelll....
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Evangelion sucks. (I just had to repeat it)
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Shadowrun has riggers (a term that, I believe, was originally used with this meaning in Walter John Williams' Hard Wired) who plug into drones and vehicles either directly or remotely, giving them enhanced reaction time and finer control over the vehicle.
There are at least two transhumanist RPGs I know of that allow for player characters to copy their personalities into digital form: the out-of-print but not out-of-stock Transhuman Space from Steve Jackson Games and the Creative Commons Licensed (and therefore free in PDF; just Google "Eclipse Phase RPG free download" and poke around a little) Eclipse Phase from Catalyst Games.
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Also, io9 needs some tabletop RPG love, of the sci fi variety.
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In EarthBound Ness and his friends must have their souls placed in robot bodies in order to travel through time because time travel destroys organic matter. Though technically this seems like complete transference rather than remote control, they get their bodies back afterward so I thought it fit better in this post.
Oh, and by the way, play EarthBound.
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Just keep away from my pelvic splanchnic ganglion...
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CJ, you crack me up lady.
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It's his next project after Avatar. Word is, he's already started pre-production on the digital properties he'll need once filming starts.
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From wikipedia:
"Appearing in Char's Counterattack, the psycoframe is a technology that builds the psycommu system into nano-receptors within the structural framework of a mobile suit. This allows an extremely high concentration of psycommu perception, and a Newtype pilot would be able to control the mobile suit as if it were his/her own body (somewhat similar to how the suits in G Gundam are controlled). Traditional psycommu systems require sizeable sub-systems, and are typically mounted on larger platforms such as a mobile armor or an uncommonly large mobile suit. With the development of the psycoframe, it became possible to implement a psycommu system into a smaller mobile suit."
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I think it's an interesting question (something Australian author Greg Egan would probably write about).
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(And I still got misty eyed at the end of "Flowers for Algernon" even though this must be the third or fourth time I've read it.)
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There was, kind of, Agent Smith in the Matrix films.
Oh, and Innerspace had folks in robots inside other folks!
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Somehow, I think your films probably still fit that role, huh?
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Totally wasn't hentai, though. That would be weird.
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And Mer can delete my comments all she wants, but I still say it's a little arrogant of Mexico to think it would be the recipient of outsourced tele-presence mecha labor instead of India, where all the tech jobs are going these days. I mean who would you trust with your million dollar robotic drones: the culture that believes the 80 work week starts at age 8, or the one that came up with the concept of "Siesta?"
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I mean... originally it wasn't just nappy time for "dem lazy messicans".
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The kicker? The whole thing will be filmed in anti-zombie movie cliche. Long shots, panoramic views, steady cameras, no jump cutting, almost no blood at all.
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Don't forget a nice instrumental score, all acoustic.