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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    You know Charlie Jane, i've only just gotten my R2-D2 t-shirt and then you go an post this. *sigh* I'm gonna have to freeze my credit card or start sending you the bills.
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    Image of lorq lorq
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    I still own and cherish my copy of "20th Century Foss," the artbook put out by Dragon's Dream Publishers, which also put out beautiful and glossy books by Roger Dean, Syd Mead, and many others, back in the mid-70s and thereafter. (Time for a Dragon's Dream retrospective article / gallery, mayhap...?)
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    Image of lorq lorq
    11/20/09

    @lorq: Ahem, of course I meant "21st Century Foss."
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    Yay, Jodo! Factoid: the new Metabarons GN has a lengthy sequence by AWOL WildC.A.T.S penciller Travis Charest, which is beyond awesome. The two of them on one book hugely rule.
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    Image of Tim Barribeau Tim Barribeau
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    Many of Jodorowsky's ideas for Dune were folded into his comics, like L'Incal and Metabarons. L'Incal is an utter braintrip, in the best sense of the word. Totally worth a read.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    My gods, those are some very colorful ships.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    I don't remember "Pirates of Dune."

    I like the pictures, though.
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    11/20/09

    @cletar: I like that title!

    You've got yourself another Kevin J. Anderson Dune series right there!
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    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    I used to have two artwork books from this guy. Very distinctive imagination.

    My mom threw them out when I left for college :-(
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    Image of Zenuflecked Zenuflecked
    11/20/09

    @FrankenPC: Oh, that is so unfortunate. I managed to hold on to my copies of 3 of his books. I never got the star liners book unfortunately, but I had the spacecraft, spacewars, and spacewrecks. Someone is doing a revival of the storyline that ran behind these for an RPG.
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    FrankenPC promoted this comment Zenuflecked was starred Zenuflecked was unstarred
    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    11/20/09

    @Zenuflecked: Mine were Starliners and Spacecraft. I've never seen Spacewars. I'll have to amble on over to Amazon and take a look see.

    #calendar
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    11/20/09

    @Zenuflecked: the ones you mean by Stewart Cowley?
    I have them - Spacecraft 2000-2100, Spacewrecks, Great Spacebattles and the Spaceliners one.

    Foss wasn't actually involved with this series.. the work by other artists is very similar tho.

    Edit
    Forgot to note there is a Spacewars book, that is Spacecraft 2000-2100 and Spacebattles in one Edition.
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    Edited by KhaiJB at 11/20/09 8:53 AM KhaiJB was starred KhaiJB was unstarred
    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    11/20/09

    @Zenuflecked: Holy mother of gawd :-O Starliners goes from ~100$-~300$ on Amazon!
    (Shakes fist~!) Damn you mom!!!
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    11/20/09

    @FrankenPC: get away from my copy!
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    11/20/09

    @KhaiJB: heres the full set

    [www.amazon.com]
    [www.amazon.com]
    [www.amazon.com]
    [www.amazon.com]

    now get your mits off my copies. MINE!
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    11/20/09

    In reply to Rare Dune Concept Art From One Of Space Opera's Greatest Visionaries
    aah Foss... shaped my view of spacecraft ever since I can remember...
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/20/09

    @KhaiJB: I know what you mean, my father used to read me the Lensmen series as bedtime stories so i went to sleep looking at those covers.
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    Image of SeeingI SeeingI
    10/08/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    I have a strong hunch that the new TARDIS console will resemble #4.
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    Image of AbdulMule AbdulMule
    10/06/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    The valkyries from Macross Frontier that the protagonists use are supposed to be throwbacks to the original VF-1s, VF-25 Messiahs i think they're called
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    Evdor promoted this comment AbdulMule was starred AbdulMule was unstarred
    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/07/09

    @AbdulMule: Too bad about the series devolving into referencing earlier, better series mixed with typical, modern tropes (though I should have recognized a problem when the MILITARY FIGHTERS also happened to be high school students and gratitous underaged characters reigned).
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    Image of glardchia glardchia
    10/07/09

    @Evdor: FYI SDF: Macross is generally about underaged kids, too. Albeit they don't go to schools anymore.
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/07/09

    @glardchia: Hikaru is something like 17-18, 20s by series end. Misa Hayes is in her 20s, The only character in it that's under the 18 mark is Minmay.
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    Image of glardchia glardchia
    10/07/09

    @Evdor: You forgot that Hikaru is the leader of Skull Team and the team is composed of kids. KAKIZAKIIIIIIIII D:
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    Image of bubbagrump bubbagrump
    10/06/09

    In reply to Escapism Is The Highest Form Of Art
    Thom Disch was a God.
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    Image of EugeniaBSG EugeniaBSG
    10/06/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    The reimagined Galactica still looks too "Star Treky" to me.

    Something built for WAR ought to look wicked, fast, dynamic, not like a tugboat.
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    Image of joetato joetato
    10/06/09

    @EugeniaBSG: Do you have any idea how rugged a tugboat actually is? Where is this alleged tugboat? I don't see anything tugboat-like about the Galactica!
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    Image of EugeniaBSG EugeniaBSG
    10/07/09

    @joetato: Aesthetically, the design does nothing for me. I prefer the design of the original. It looked ready to eat cylons.
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    Image of Tyler Swenson Tyler Swenson
    10/07/09

    @EugeniaBSG: One of the particular reasons that I fell in love with the new design of the ship is because of the straight forward logic behind the design.

    -Command Center is in the center of the ship where it is most protected
    -Few windows due to firefights and atmospheric loss if they were damaged
    -Rounder design as it isn't blocky looking compared to the original
    -Interior very Spartan with nearly everything serving a specific purpose

    Yes I'll admit that I wasn't too fond of the missing plating and rough exterior at first, but that was the charm that the designers of the series built in. It's like that beater car you drove in high school, it's not the best but you love it.
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    Image of TheMoves TheMoves
    10/07/09

    @EugeniaBSG: I mean, the Vipers were the things that were truly streamlined for war. They could turn on a dime and handle like a Lambo. The Galactica was an outdated, retired battlestar. The design they used was meant to make the audience realize that this ship was not the best possible ship to have by any means. If you look at the Pegasus (another Battlestar from the series) it's much more streamlined and futuristic.
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    Boas_MC promoted this comment Edited by TheMoves at 10/07/09 7:13 AM TheMoves was starred TheMoves was unstarred
    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    10/06/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    I was expecting to see a re-imagined Veritech. Anyone seen any?
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/06/09

    @gods-n-clods: Only in my dreams

    Besides, the Valkyrie's look advanced enough that I don't think much re-imagining would be necessary. Since 'updating' would probably make them look like an F-22 Raptor, that conjures images of Michael Bay's Starscream. DO NOT WANT.
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    Image of Chronocidal Guy Chronocidal Guy
    10/07/09

    @Evdor: It's been done, and looks nothing like an F-22. Nothing officially available in the US, but check out Macross Zero, or any of the more recent Macross designs.
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    10/07/09

    @Chronocidal Guy: Thanks, mate! My initial reaction for the request has been the long slow dread building up, anticipating Toby Maguire's rumored Robotech movie.
    I think the Veritech design is one of the best examples of 20th century novelty/ingenuity in design. I am dreading it being molested for the movie. F-15s (16?) are a little dated since the first design, and I want to see this thing look good.
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    10/07/09


    @gods-n-clods: I Think the YF-19 design from Macross Plus was an excellent reworking of the original Valkyries. The YF-21? Meh.
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    Image of Chronocidal Guy Chronocidal Guy
    10/07/09

    @gods-n-clods: If you think you're dreading it, you should see what the average Macross fan has to say (fans of the original Japanese show/plot, not the US Robotech version).

    If they knew what was good for them, they'd just go back to the original source, and make a live action version of "Do You Remember Love?", the Japanese movie that summed up the essence of the entire series.

    But yeah, there've been probably dozens of newer Macross style fighters made since the originals. The YF-19 has been one of my favorites for years.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/06/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    The BSG reboot art seems to have borrowed some from the art for the games Homeworld and Homeworld 2.

    Which, of course, is not a bad thing. Might as well borrow from the awesomest.
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    Image of winshape winshape
    10/06/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: I can't hear "Adagio for Strings" without thinking of the opening sequence of Homeworld. Man, that was a great game...
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    Image of Jack Mayfield Jack Mayfield
    10/06/09

    In reply to Concept Art That Reimagines The Greatest Space Epics
    This concept art doesn't reimagine these epics; it imagined them first. (Preimagined?)
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    10/06/09

    @Jack Mayfield: What do you mean? These are all from the remakes and reboots, not the originals.
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