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08/07/09
Back to movies. Liked that SciFi (Syfy wtf) tried to do something more true, but utter fail in converting an epic book to visual form. I mean, was I the only one that noticed that Stilgar was seriously "water-fat." Gurney was just not believable (or understandable at times). Duncan was ok. Lady Jessica!? Seriously, she was supposed to be beautiful. There were lots of choices for that. I think Lynch's Dune was a better visual experience, but agree that you shouldn't mess around that much with a masterpiece.
No possible way to cram the book into a single movie. All in all, I'm not looking for the story to be right. That's false hope. Just looking for something that will provide some visually appealing view of the Dune universe. Something it's fun to have some visualize it for you. But film is only 2-D. The depth is in the book. So go read them if you haven't.
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Aren't there a MILLION other fantastic Sci-Fi's out there to adapt?
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[www.duneinfo.com]
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Ok, so it's not a literal translation, but it hits the key beats: noble child survives slaughter of his family, becomes messiah to indigenous people and ends up defeating those who engineered his slaughter. On top of that looked fantastic and it had a wonderful wrongness to it.
Compared to the more literal, but less inspired SciFi Miniseries, it's made of awesome.
Sadly the movie was financed and marketed by people who thought they were getting the next Star Wars. Queue bad audience reaction and an undeserved stigma.
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It's going to be impossible to ever create something as desolate as Arrakis or terrifying as the Worms should be, which is a good thing. It should force Berg to focus on the characters, as he did in the fantastically directed Friday Night Lights TV pilot. Make this movie about the betrayal of Leto, the mystical, otherworldly qualities of the Lady Jessica, and the charisma and passion of Paul.
Making the film more "muscular" and "violent" isn't what this film needs, and I'm hoping these were just offhand comments which will really not greatly influence the focus of the movie.
In the face of something as truly epic as Dune, Berg needs to look inward instead, and keep this movie grounded in the complex and multi-dimensional characters Frank Herbert created. After watching what he was able to accomplish in Friday Night Lights, and to a lesser extent Virtuality, I think he can actually accomplish this.
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Have you seen Sting in that movie?
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There are no other books in the Dune series besides these. Don’t believe anything otherwise that people might tell you. You’ll be a much happier person this way.
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Well, I read dune and I had the unfortunate luck to read House Atreides... and... damn what was the other House called. Well I only got partway through that other House book.
Well thank you, I shall read all of those.
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Especially on the fourth book, which I actually found a good character study that people have been programmed to dis utterly. So, boo. Honestly, the second and third are kind of awful in my opinion and the fourth is a good bookending antidote.
Although it's heresy, I'm brave enough: I really liked the Butlerian Jihad trilogy. The "House" books are pointless, but the Jihad books are a worthwhile aside.
08/07/09
Basically, the first three books are about Paul and his immediate family within a 30 year time frame.
Between the third and fourth book there is a jump of roughly 3500 years and one of the characters has become a giant, almost invulnerable, nearly immortal man-worm. Or worm-man. From there it gets a little weird and pretty convoluted.
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That is a rather odd shift in plot.
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There are five possibilities:
1. Dune, then stop. Dune is a great book, and works by itself really well.
2. Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune. This trilogy effectively deals with Paul's life, and then ends.
3. Same as #2, but throw in God Emperor of Dune, which effectively wraps up his son's story.
4. Same as #3, but wade through the clear embodiment of sexual frustration that were Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune.
5. Keep reading all the post-Frank sequels in the order of publication, but if my experience with Kevin J. Anderson from the Star Wars EU is any indication, make sure you leave a mop and bucket handy so the next person that comes along can clean up the ooze that used to be your brain.
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Scifichannel had that much right by splitting it to a 3 part miniseries.The book is huge and will not be good as a one movie 2 - 3 hour film.Then you will have to cut all sorts of stuff.
I am not looking forward to another version of Dune.time to moveon hollywood and find a brand new original thing to do.Like how about continuing the Dune series.
08/19/09
Too bad SciFi couldn't actually hire actors or a costume designer.
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