You know, I was really excited for Stargate Universe at first, but they're already screwing it up.
Oh, they're in mortal danger. Again.
Oh, the ship just saved them. Again.
Oh, Lt. Scott and Chloe have only known each other a day and a half, but they've felt "closer to each other" than anyone they've ever known (basically a plot justification for some fracking)
Oh, the black guy is still angry.
Oh, Scott could somehow pilot a million year old shuttle in a different language and perform a complex landing with it.
Hm.
If they don't improve (or at least focus on a plotline other than immense death every episode) within the next few weeks then I'm writing it off as a loss. #avatar
@Mike Zuniga: I'm not willing to throw in the towel just yet, but you're basically right.
I've said this in other threads before, but I think all the elements are there for a good show, but the writing just really, really needs work.
That Scott/Chloe "closer to each other" thing was just about the dumbest thing I've seen on TV so far this year. My wife and I laughed when they said that.
I don't understand why the characters aren't using their skills, meager as they are, to get out of trouble. The show would be so much more interesting if we actually had characters working together, against all odds, trying to get out of problems.
Here, I'll write a SGU episode outline, based on the current formula.
1) Rush broods as he uses the last scrap of toilet paper.
2) Rush explodes. "Your ignorance has killed us all."
3) Mass uncleanliness will kill the crew soon if something doesn't happen fast.
4) Crew dips into deep depression. Some have sad sex, but the smell makes the sex kinda gross.
5) Nerdy genius kid plays with alien toys.
6) Maybe nerdy genius kid has a solution. "Alien fecal laser beams!"
7) Solution doesn't pan out, though a few of the crew now have a hole in their colon.
8) Rush broods a little more.
9) Ship sprouts bidets and saves the day! Hurray!
@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: Well, mortal danger is a-ok. That's conflict. If they were only in danger of skinned knees, the show would be more boring than it already is. Considering the premise of the show, the only real plot mechanic they have is fighting to survive in an unusual environment.
Now, the ship constantly saving them is annoying as hell. The ship should be a mystery, and a potentially dangerous one, not a benevolent protector that will solve all their problems if they just play along.
Dashing McLanternjaw and the Cute One make absolutely no sense. You're right: they just wanted to have two attractive actors in sex scenes.
Mr. Angry I'm okay with, for now. Hopefully they add some more depth, but he's nothing to be annoyed at.
I'm fine with Dashing McLanternjaw piloting the shuttle too. Mostly out of plot convenience. It's like the fact that every alien in the Stargate setting speaks the same language. #avatar
@ManchuCandidate: @Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: @ManchuCandidate: Basically at this point I think I'd only tune in for the shits and grins if Robert Picardo's character used a communication stone to get on the Destiny and then said "Please state the nature of the medical emergency." #avatar
@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: This show seriously makes me want to weep out of science-fiction frustration. Almost any of us could write a better and more entertaining sci-fi treatment for an episode that they've provided. (dialogue is harder, I wouldn't give us all THAT much credit)
I would have never thought that someone could take the unbelievably promising Voyager premise and manage to somehow do it EVEN WORSE THAN THEY DID. But they have. Maybe that's the overreaching sci-fi tenet being explored here. Things can always get smaller. #avatar
@t3knomanser: "Dashing McLanternjaw and the Cute One make absolutely no sense."
Well, to be fair, cute people in small populations will get together to have sex and spout inanities. That's kind of how life works. Seems to make perfect sense to me. #avatar
@atrus123: How about add:
1. Scott has vision of preacher in whirling water of a flushing toilet.
2. Scott and Young go to fiber based planet to collect samples to make their own TP.
3. Scott gets trapped in butthole type crevass and almost dies.
4. Gaseous eruption launches Scott out of his predicament.
5. Young shoves Scott through Stargate just seconds before it closes.
6. Chloe cries as she is so happy Scott is alive.
7. Eli's heart breaks but then he tells a snappy joke.
8. Destiny hits light speed. #avatar
@atrus123: I'm looking forward to the episode where Destiny gets fed up with constantly saving their annoying, lazy asses and decides to put them out of their misery.
Seriously, there are no truly likable characters yet and there why I want to see any of these people live. #avatar
@Mike Zuniga: That was Unexpected: I still can't get over the fact that the ship needed to turn off the lights to be able to "save every last bit of power" for its frakking sun-proof shield. They should really switch to compact florescents.
Hey, what about the alien-y thing that detached from the ship at the end of the first or second episode? When's that gonna come back and blow them up? #avatar
Okay, I have absolutely no idea who Camille is on SGU. Is that Ms. Mopey, the Asian lesbian? I guess, by process of elimination, it has to be, right?
While she hasn't been in much of any episodes, I don't care for her character. She has the potential to be more annoying than the Cute One. Basically, Bones is the only female character worth any screen time, at least from a storytelling perspective.
//Seriously, the Eli/Cute One thing is going to get tiresome.
//Eli's cute and funny, he should totally try to score with Tits McBoobies. #avatar
@t3knomanser: Camille is the Asian HR rep. They haven't done much with her yet but she might have an arc similar to Wolsey on SG1/SGA. He was an annoying suit at first but ended up being a stand up guy at the end.
After the kino voyeur thing I doubt Lt James would hook up with Eli if he was the last man left on Destiny. #avatar
@evildead1971: I like the short hair. It gives her a visual distinction from other characters she's played. Otherwise I'd probably keep seeing Inara or Adria when I look it her.
She's definitely my current Supreme Leader;) #avatar
@evildead1971: Do you mean that if she and an army of disguised lizard people arrived on Earth with super-powered alien spaceships and quietly took control of Earth's assorted governments, you'd put up little active resistance? #avatar
@braak: Apart from the people as food bit (which we haven't seen yet anyway), would things really be any worse?
I welcome our new disguised lizard people overlords.
And, considering that they'd only be eating a small portion of the population...I mean, think about it. Aren't there at least that many people who'd be better off dead anyway? #avatar
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#StargateUniverse
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Lt. Scott: We've run out of toilet paper.
Rush: Dammit, don't you think I already know that?!?!
Colonel Young: We should have dialed Earth!
Chloe: I'm horny!
Eli: Gratuitous movie scene reference.
Lt. James: I can haz giant boobies?
Rush: Dammit, don't you think I already know that?!?!
Sgt. Greer: I was cast as a dick, so you know at some point I will go against type and do something heroic.
Col. Telford: I think I'm the one that actually turns out to be wacko.
Chloe: I'm horny!
Rush: Dammit, don't you think I already know that?!?! #avatar
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If the general in Avatar had been like The Boss with the reflective shades in Cool Hand Luke, he'd be %1000 scarier than he is. #avatar
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And I hope we see Alt-Charlie.
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Oh, they're in mortal danger. Again.
Oh, the ship just saved them. Again.
Oh, Lt. Scott and Chloe have only known each other a day and a half, but they've felt "closer to each other" than anyone they've ever known (basically a plot justification for some fracking)
Oh, the black guy is still angry.
Oh, Scott could somehow pilot a million year old shuttle in a different language and perform a complex landing with it.
Hm.
If they don't improve (or at least focus on a plotline other than immense death every episode) within the next few weeks then I'm writing it off as a loss. #avatar
11/06/09
Stargate Voyager!!! Wheee!!! #avatar
11/06/09
I've said this in other threads before, but I think all the elements are there for a good show, but the writing just really, really needs work.
That Scott/Chloe "closer to each other" thing was just about the dumbest thing I've seen on TV so far this year. My wife and I laughed when they said that.
I don't understand why the characters aren't using their skills, meager as they are, to get out of trouble. The show would be so much more interesting if we actually had characters working together, against all odds, trying to get out of problems.
Here, I'll write a SGU episode outline, based on the current formula.
1) Rush broods as he uses the last scrap of toilet paper.
2) Rush explodes. "Your ignorance has killed us all."
3) Mass uncleanliness will kill the crew soon if something doesn't happen fast.
4) Crew dips into deep depression. Some have sad sex, but the smell makes the sex kinda gross.
5) Nerdy genius kid plays with alien toys.
6) Maybe nerdy genius kid has a solution. "Alien fecal laser beams!"
7) Solution doesn't pan out, though a few of the crew now have a hole in their colon.
8) Rush broods a little more.
9) Ship sprouts bidets and saves the day! Hurray!
11/06/09
Now, the ship constantly saving them is annoying as hell. The ship should be a mystery, and a potentially dangerous one, not a benevolent protector that will solve all their problems if they just play along.
Dashing McLanternjaw and the Cute One make absolutely no sense. You're right: they just wanted to have two attractive actors in sex scenes.
Mr. Angry I'm okay with, for now. Hopefully they add some more depth, but he's nothing to be annoyed at.
I'm fine with Dashing McLanternjaw piloting the shuttle too. Mostly out of plot convenience. It's like the fact that every alien in the Stargate setting speaks the same language. #avatar
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I would have never thought that someone could take the unbelievably promising Voyager premise and manage to somehow do it EVEN WORSE THAN THEY DID. But they have. Maybe that's the overreaching sci-fi tenet being explored here. Things can always get smaller. #avatar
11/06/09
Well, to be fair, cute people in small populations will get together to have sex and spout inanities. That's kind of how life works. Seems to make perfect sense to me. #avatar
11/06/09
1. Scott has vision of preacher in whirling water of a flushing toilet.
2. Scott and Young go to fiber based planet to collect samples to make their own TP.
3. Scott gets trapped in butthole type crevass and almost dies.
4. Gaseous eruption launches Scott out of his predicament.
5. Young shoves Scott through Stargate just seconds before it closes.
6. Chloe cries as she is so happy Scott is alive.
7. Eli's heart breaks but then he tells a snappy joke.
8. Destiny hits light speed. #avatar
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Now this franchise can finally get interesting! #avatar
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Seriously, there are no truly likable characters yet and there why I want to see any of these people live. #avatar
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Hey, what about the alien-y thing that detached from the ship at the end of the first or second episode? When's that gonna come back and blow them up? #avatar
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"Here's the official description for tonight's episode:"
If you leave out the names, isn't that the description for most of the episodes so far?
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While she hasn't been in much of any episodes, I don't care for her character. She has the potential to be more annoying than the Cute One. Basically, Bones is the only female character worth any screen time, at least from a storytelling perspective.
//Seriously, the Eli/Cute One thing is going to get tiresome.
//Eli's cute and funny, he should totally try to score with Tits McBoobies. #avatar
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After the kino voyeur thing I doubt Lt James would hook up with Eli if he was the last man left on Destiny. #avatar
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i'm not crazy about morena with short hair, but i'd still let her invade my planet... if you know what i mean. wink wink nudge nudge #avatar
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She's definitely my current Supreme Leader;) #avatar
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I welcome our new disguised lizard people overlords.
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And, considering that they'd only be eating a small portion of the population...I mean, think about it. Aren't there at least that many people who'd be better off dead anyway? #avatar
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