It's better than the flying discotheque sign, but the DW TARDIS logo is pretty lame. Hopefully we won't see it during the actual credits, and it will only pop up on the underside of toy packages and during next time trailers.
It does look marginally better in the longer format:
At least the immediately-previous, orange oval logo looked like some money was spent on it; this one looks cheap, and the typeface is horrible in a 1990s t-26 way. The letterformed-TARDIS is a cute idea, though. Overall, the type snob in me is underwhelmed-to-annoyed.
@Jack Mayfield: "
At least the immediately-previous, orange oval logo looked like some money was spent on it; "
No, it looked like something that would take about half hour in photoshop.
Something -I- could do in half hour in photoshop, and I'm not that good.
(well, ok, youd have to let me use paint shop pro, but really, that last logo did not look like any money or time was spent on it).
That said, money or time shouldnt be spent on logos anyway. Just do something simple, and whatever it is, your shows quality will be associated with the logo NOT visa-versa.
It's a freaking logo people! It's not the end all and be all of the series. What is it about fans that make them want to pick apart every little aspect of a shows existence? A little bit is fine and even fun, but after a point it just distracts from the important bits. Like are the stories good, can the actors act, is the stories logic fairly sound, etc.
For gods sake we haven't even seen the poor kid act yet. Let's leave the guy alone and see what happens. Personally, I'm excited.
@Jesse Astle: Calm down, have some tea.
We're just excited - it's been months since our last story, and it'll be at least another month before our next one.
@Dr Emilio Lizardo: Moffat wrote some of the very best episodes of the new series, I was excited to see him take over.
Then Matt Smith happened- I'm sorry, but when Bill-freakin-Nighy offers to take on the mantle and you cast a kid, I'm out. It's like that SG-1 episode where they made the TV Series "Wormhole X-treme" except this is really happening.
@BlueBeard: Watch it first then make your hasty decisions. Look, he's made some good decisions. Brought back the old design of the tardis, dressed Matt Smith in a delightful professors suite, and the new titles look very nice. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt before we pan the show. And I sat through Colin Bakers Doctor! There's no way he can be that bad. So suck it up man!
@Jesse Astle: Are you kidding me? The suit is what I can't stand the most!
Maybe it was because I wanted them to make 11 sardonic, cynical and dressed like the Shalka Doctor, but man, the Bill Nye the Science Guy look only works on Bill Nye the Science Guy. It created almost a visceral hate-reaction in me and the whole DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHLLLLL-EKS! thing didn't help any.
@Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.: Yeah, it's a small improvement on the last, but as a professional designer lens flares scream 'Photoshop Newb' to me. And the application of this is as bad as the last too. I can't see it working on anything other than a black background otherwise the effect will be lost. Schoolboy error for a schoolboy doctor no less!
@zadek: only two lens flares this time, its an improvement! As for the black background...actualy, that could work.
Rather then go for the current warpy-titles, have some more subtle against a dim starfield.
Have some feedback effects, but more dark tones.
Could work nicely.
Yeah, it took me a while to figure out why I didn't like the DW, because I actually like it purely visually. But then I realized it's because the Tardis logo doesn't actually make any sense.
DW implies initials for an actual person, place, or thing. But nobody actually calls The Doctor, "Doctor Who." They call him "The Doctor."
So, conceptually, even TD would be better. (Although actually, it would be even worse.)
I realize it's actually the initials of the show not the character, but when there is nothing within the show that shares the same name as the title, a monogram is just an "off" idea.
The other logo, I'm down with, even if it is a little Star Trek-ey. Much better than the button.
@92BuickLeSabre: I definitely agree with you on all of that. I don't mind the lettering and the full name logo--I find it kind of boring and monochormatic but not objectionable. But I really dislike that "DW" TARDIS-y looking thing.
The other thing that bugs me about it is that it takes the TARDIS shape, something *everyone* recognises, even people who've never seen the show, and morphs it and stylises it until it's something totally different. I think it divides the single icon of the TARDIS so that it's now two separate icons. Which is the "real" symbol of the show? It confuses things.
@lunadude: I'm a big fan of #3/8 myself... The logo. Doctorwise, I like 1, 8, 10 and 4. This new logo isn't too bad eiher, but I'm not looking forward to the Doctor...
@lunadude: Oh man, logo 7. Disaster. Although actually I don't like any logo that draws most of your attention to WHO rather than DOCTOR. At this point, the fact that the show is even called "Doctor Who" is somewhere between a trap of branding and a running gag.
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It's better than the flying discotheque sign, but the DW TARDIS logo is pretty lame. Hopefully we won't see it during the actual credits, and it will only pop up on the underside of toy packages and during next time trailers.
It does look marginally better in the longer format:
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But, frankly, all the Doctor Who logos suck.
Bring back really plane text and spiffy feedback effects, imo.
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At least the immediately-previous, orange oval logo looked like some money was spent on it; "
No, it looked like something that would take about half hour in photoshop.
Something -I- could do in half hour in photoshop, and I'm not that good.
(well, ok, youd have to let me use paint shop pro, but really, that last logo did not look like any money or time was spent on it).
That said, money or time shouldnt be spent on logos anyway. Just do something simple, and whatever it is, your shows quality will be associated with the logo NOT visa-versa.
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For gods sake we haven't even seen the poor kid act yet. Let's leave the guy alone and see what happens. Personally, I'm excited.
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We're just excited - it's been months since our last story, and it'll be at least another month before our next one.
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Then Matt Smith happened- I'm sorry, but when Bill-freakin-Nighy offers to take on the mantle and you cast a kid, I'm out. It's like that SG-1 episode where they made the TV Series "Wormhole X-treme" except this is really happening.
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Maybe it was because I wanted them to make 11 sardonic, cynical and dressed like the Shalka Doctor, but man, the Bill Nye the Science Guy look only works on Bill Nye the Science Guy. It created almost a visceral hate-reaction in me and the whole DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHLLLLL-EKS! thing didn't help any.
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Moffat isnt just "good" he is godly.
Unlike RTD he can both come up with a good starting concept AND a good ending.
Coupling was also very funny and pretty clever in places too.
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Rather then go for the current warpy-titles, have some more subtle against a dim starfield.
Have some feedback effects, but more dark tones.
Could work nicely.
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DW implies initials for an actual person, place, or thing. But nobody actually calls The Doctor, "Doctor Who." They call him "The Doctor."
So, conceptually, even TD would be better. (Although actually, it would be even worse.)
I realize it's actually the initials of the show not the character, but when there is nothing within the show that shares the same name as the title, a monogram is just an "off" idea.
The other logo, I'm down with, even if it is a little Star Trek-ey. Much better than the button.
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The other thing that bugs me about it is that it takes the TARDIS shape, something *everyone* recognises, even people who've never seen the show, and morphs it and stylises it until it's something totally different. I think it divides the single icon of the TARDIS so that it's now two separate icons. Which is the "real" symbol of the show? It confuses things.
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I was okay with the DW badge thinggie, but now thanks to you two not so much.
The light on the top is too big too.
Love the font on the logo though; it evokes the older series.
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Fun to see the logo evolve, as the show and audience change.
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