Stating your opinion that "she's not hot" or that "she's too fat" serves no purpose other than to make women with bodies like hers (me, for example) feel ashamed of the way they look. If making larger women feel shitty about their bodies was enough to make those women smaller, I wouldn't still be wearing a size 16.

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However I think a little slack can be cut for the visceral reaction to hotness. Just like those little robots that go in your blood made me feel the need to say "Yikes!" sometimes something very attractive makes my eyes open a little bit and I have an instinct to say "Yowza!" It's still shallow, but at least there is an almost physically reactive element to it.

I think that's also why commenting on someone who is "not hot" is almost doubly problematic. It almost implies that the person is so not hot that you can't help reacting. That it's visceral. That is is equivalent to seeing tiny robots on your screen that crawl in your blood stream - "Yikes! She is really not hot!"

But otherwise, I agree. Totally equally shallow.

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Commenting that she IS hot (and those are more often in response to the comments that attack her looks, rather than thread-starters themselves) is just a pointless shallow remark that CAN be indicative of a certain sensitivity to those issues or a desire to inject more positivity into the thread, though probably isn't.

While both are shallow, there's an extra mental step down involved in deciding that pointlessly attacking a woman's appearance is an appropriate topic of discussion for a post like this.

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@Slovenly Muse: Seriously - the standard of beauty these days is such bullshit. God forbid that we should all look different and interesting, and go about our lives happily knowing that some people will be attracted to us and some people won't.

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This makes my day.

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1) No one has said she is not a large woman. I don't understand what you're arguing against here.

2) Her weight (or "health," which is a completely separate issue) has no bearing on the fact that many of us find her attractive.

Your comment has only one point, yet it's irrelevant to this discussion on two counts. That's impressive.

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There is a difference between a curvy lady and The Blob.

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That's my kinda lady.

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that's my kinda lass. where your not afraid she'll go snap or have all these pokey bones...

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Interesting, and I knew that it has been coming more popular with other franchises. The Browncoats for Firefly and the Colonial Fleet for Battlestar Galactica.

One thing that frustrates me, from both sides, is how groups of people can be identified with just a couple of people, and when you have a couple of poor representations, from both sides, the image of the group as a whole is tarnished. I know of a number of cosplayers who really put a lot of attention to detail, and that's just as good in my book as those who just want to be a character. The whole purpose is to have fun, and if you don't need the exact details, that's fine. People need to separate out personalities and not judge.

Yep, there's quite a few fabric costumes within the group, and they are required to have a comparable level of detail when it comes to accuracy. I don't know a whole lot about that side of things though, as I'm really only familiar with Stormtroopers and Clone Troopers.

I tend to go with the term costumer as well - cosplay does have negative connotations, but costumer sounds more professional in a way.

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Heh, thanks. I pays to know what you're dressing up as, IMO. There are some good books, and there are some bad ones. Shoot me an e-mail if you want some recommendations.

TK in the 501st is a designation for storm troopers, it comes from TK-421. Sand troopers are TD, Royal Guards are TR, etc.

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