So, The casting is right, the costumes are right, the sets are right, it's just the ideas that aren't. These would be the ideas that come from the larger picture that can only be understood once one sees the whole film? So you like everything you have seen, but are saying that it's bad from the one thing you haven't seen?

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No, I haven't seen the film. I haven't seen "Paul Blart" either because everything I see about that makes weep for my species.

You say "right", which I didn't. Right is a fanboy term. As if there is a correct way to do something and incorrect. Coraline the film differs in several key ways from the book, but it conveys the ideas, the core of the material.

Pulling the Black Freighter out of the story and billing it as "an epic adventure" like like taking the story of Milo Minderbinder out of "Catch-22" and making it into a romantic comedy.

I'm not some kneejerk fanboy hater. But everything I see so far just makes me love the book as the book all the more.

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B: They call it an Epic Adventure in the trailer. I guess you would rather them try to sell it with a tagline like

"From the creators of Promethea and 300 comes the most thrilling adaptation of an intercalary chapter device ever. If you like the themes and concepts in the movie you havent seen yet you'll love to try and relate them to this animated tale!"

Yeah it's a cash in, but if they didn't do it everyone screams that they left out the precious Black Freighter. He can't win. And for the record, Kubrick didn't get the "ideas" behind A Clockwork Orange, by leaving off the original ending. So that must make it crap.

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I would buy more stuff, I promise.

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Think of it this way. Say you had a favorite food, fried ice cream for instance. One day you her of a new place selling it. You head over, order up and sit down to enjoy. It looks perfect, just the right crispiness to the outside layer, the ice cream looks rich, even the whipped cream is the nice and fancy kind.

Then you bite in and taste toothpaste. Now, toothpaste isn't bad, for brushing teeth it's a fine thing, but it's not your diabete-licious psuedo-mexican treat either.

It looks like Watchmen, no expense or detail spared, but the core of it, the taste, that's all different.

I don't have any fanboy rage at this. I view it as comedy. I'm glad Dave Gibbons is getting paid and some publicity and hopefully Alan Moore is seeing a nice bump in residuals from book sales. But this whole movie endeavor/media event is simply very well-funded cos play.

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But please, feel free to assume I'm some sniffy twit who rambles on about purity. Because I'm not and you're wrong.

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As for Clockwork Orange, no I'm not comparing this to that I'm merely pointing out that its more than possible to have a film based on material that is often very different, yet still be quite good. Same with Jurassic Park. Spielberg totally failed to tell the story of the novel, but the film is still excellent.

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Yes, it could be that the director of "300" and "Dawn of the Dead" could really bring a keen understanding of the subtleties in Watchmen to the screen. It could be that all the emphasis on nuance and fan-service hasn't been lost sight of the story. It could be. I'm ready to be surprised I suppose.

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1)Will Smith

2)Jeff Goldblum

3)Aliens

Thus, ID4 is in fact his favorite movie. MIB comes in second.

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Yet you go ahead and feel free to yap your gums about something you have a "feeling" about.

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It's fascinating to me that the "rational" sci-fi fans become nothing short of fanatical when something they love, irrationally, is questioned. It's almost...religious.

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Interesting comment coming from a Mooreman.

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There was no possible way for Snyder to include the Black Freighter in the continuity of the film.

He's doing the next best thing, and from all reports, he WILL be editing it in the DVD release.

No matter what he does, you won't be happy. And while I except that people like that exist, it doesn't mean you are full of shit.

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Aren't.

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I'm obviously too annoyed to type. I'm outta here.

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Nope, I just reread the thread - it was you.

Btw, I only read Watchmen a few months ago - I haven't had time to finish my Silk Spectre costume yet.

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Made it quite clear that I was basing what I said on what I've seen. Making a clear assessment based on available evidence? Rational. Believing that something will be excellent based on scant evidence/assumption? Faith.

Nothing wrong with worshiping a nerd God. I just remain a geek atheist.

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* Reserving judgment on movie until viewing: rational
* Judging movie based on trailers and posters: irrational

I'm not sure at what point you became convinced that I worship this movie I haven't seen, but I don't. I have no attachment to it at all. In this exchange, I would have considered myself the agnostic and you the worshipper.

I feel like this thread is some kind of weird British comedy skit where you said something, and now you're trying to convince me that I was actually the one who said it and you said the opposite. Only without the "comedy" part. I'm going to bow out now before my head spins.

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So both you and Plague get angry, mutter some rude remarks and then stomp off?

Again, tell me how irrational I'm being about my opinion.

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Just imagine the joke that was there. It was terrifyingly brilliant.

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Wise man, your dad is.

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+ Watch video

Whatchu talkin' bout, 'PC?

"Old school-sorta PG13 but not with a little more blood and maybe some sideboob" PG?

I'm down.

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That Deadspace movie was surprisingly violent. Like, I expected gore, but that sort of took it to a new level.

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