Um, wasn't the whole "Phoenix force was never really Jean Grey" Thing a big ol' Retcon in the first place? That was pretty much the moment I stopped caring about Marvel comics, especially since Jim Shooter was all sanctimonious about how Phoenix "had to die." #startrek
Every time I see shitty, ridiculous retcons that bring back characters, my desire to pay attention to the franchise starts to take a nosedive.
For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.
I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
@Rocketknight: The trouble is that any given continuity can last, at beast, a few years. You can't have Peter Parker still haunted by the death of Gwen Stacy (or Uncle Ben, for that matter), when it in fact happened over 40 years ago. #startrek
I'd like to give the first book shout-out in this list to Bella Lind at the end of Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds.
There's a quick revival technique established early in the book by an alien race, but Bella's takes about 20 years due to the severity of her injuries. She's not even fully her, making the revival actually somewhat logical. #startrek
I watch Supernatural on Thursday instead of Fringe because I don't have a dvr and fox.com is far better than cwtv.com for streaming the show.
Apparently that isn't enough to help the ratings though...
I've stopped watching FlashForward because I realized I dislike all the characters and although the premise was cool they mucked around too much to keep me interested.
What about Whistler from Blade? Definitely, categorically dead (though offscreen) in the first, then appears as if by magic in the second. And let's not even go there with his having a daughter he never mentioned in the first two films... #startrek
John Sheridan doesn't even die after using up the 20 years of life given to him by Lorien -- he pulls a Frodo and is taken beyond the Galactic Rim by the First Ones. #startrek
When it comes to Boba Fett, I think I accept the movie version of his death over Dark Empire's, although the idea that the sarlacc couldn't digest Fett was kind of funny. #startrek
@Bill-Lee: I really, really am trying not to be so bitter and such a nay-sayer, but doesn't anybody else think Boba Fett is the most overrated character ever? #startrek
@Wookie1972: Yeah, he is pretty overrated. He's on screen for all of 15 mins. in the entire original trilogy and is killed accidentally by blind Han Solo. I think there is one cool moment involving Boba Fett and that's when Vader is talking to the bounty hunters and he specifically tells Feet, "No disintegrations". That implies that Fett is this huge badass...killed by someone accidentally setting off his jetpack. #startrek
It could be that Flashforward is pretty bad, and Fringe S2 is no way as good as Fringe S1. The first four episodes of season 2 were one of the most blatant uses of the retcon in television. #fringe
Is anyone else left with this unquenchable desire to just call "Bullshit" on the entire science-fiction-industrial complex for all this? Doesn't it get old to have these characters killed, brought back, and re-killed all the blasted time just so the characters' creators can trick us all out of more of our money and time?
@LoganAdams: It definitely cuts any kind of drama out of the deaths. When Captain America "died" people who knew comics didn't even blink.
The worse part about this is the ridiculous retcons. Seriously DC, Superboy punches on reality and that fixes everything? Why even explain it when it is just that nonsensical?
Venture Bros. desperately needs to parody this. Just bring back Dr. Dugong and don't try to explain it at all. #startrek
I think Star Wars fandom has come back around on itself and the true fanboys just wish he had never made the damn movies in the first place. Ouroboros. #startrek
FlashForward is just such a chore to watch, what with having to FastForward through every single scene involving Penny from Lost, and her annoyingly inept future fling. I couldn't find the remote last week, and had to sit through the scene in the kitchen where Penny gets all fatalist about their relationship after Shakespeare in Love flips out over Future Fling and his kid wandering into his home, with Token Autistic Kid being all "It's MY house TOOOOOO!" Someone needs to hire that kid an acting coach, or just slap him, because I work with autistic kids, and they don't sound like spoiled brats. #fringe
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For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.
I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
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There's a quick revival technique established early in the book by an alien race, but Bella's takes about 20 years due to the severity of her injuries. She's not even fully her, making the revival actually somewhat logical. #startrek
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Apparently that isn't enough to help the ratings though...
I've stopped watching FlashForward because I realized I dislike all the characters and although the premise was cool they mucked around too much to keep me interested.
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also i think he wanted to keep his hot daughter away from blade. he was a closet racist.
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A crow-bar. #startrek
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Anyone? #startrek
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The worse part about this is the ridiculous retcons. Seriously DC, Superboy punches on reality and that fixes everything? Why even explain it when it is just that nonsensical?
Venture Bros. desperately needs to parody this. Just bring back Dr. Dugong and don't try to explain it at all. #startrek
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