So judging for panel 18 Terminators don't have wangs. This makes sense. Its a flappy part with no function for them. Might as well not even bother with it.
Thanks for posting this. It's a shame these had to be cut back. I would have love to have seen those scenes in all their glory. When we finally got an all future based Terminator it was a huge disappointment.
I have to be honest and feel like the franchise is ruined again for me. I kind of felt like that with T3. Then out of nowhere T:SCC came along and rekindled it for me.
Of all the themes that show touched on the biggest for me was the whole Weaver thread and in a nutshell her comment that "You can't stop progress".
Skynet was not a cause it was a symptom. If people want to do something badly enough they will find a way. If a key player is taken out of the picture, the demand will still exist and someone or something else will fill the vacuum. None of the films dealt with this, not even T2, as much as I do love that film.
From that premise, that technology will always advance to the point where creating an AI is possible and humans will always have a desire to it, the HOWS of doing it become important. Instead of running around trying to stop an inevitable event you allow it to happen but mold a more favorable outcome.
Likewise I don't think John is nearly as important as Sarah seemed to think. I think the human desire to have a figurehead, a strong leader to rally under as they faced a very real threat of extinction would always be there. The very end of T:SCC seemed to touch on this.
I'm really sad to see the show go. I would have much preferred that thread of Terminator to perpetuate to the special effects dumbed down Transformers style with a Final Fantasy Spirits within lookining Arnie crap show that we got.
@Motoki: *Sigh* I'm still in mourning over the epic loss that was SCC. I've been a diehard Terminator fan since my father first illicitly let me watch it on our VCR back in '89 when I was 6 and have been so since.
I've always held that ideas will persist no matter what person thinks of it. It'd be like saying: take out Oppenheimer, Einstein, etc and POOF no more nukes. But it doesn't kill the idea of nuclear energy, oh it may delay it a little, but it would never truly stop it.
Also, I kind of agree to an extent on the John note. I mean, John is the epitome of the pre-destination paradox. He is the leader of mankind because Sarah told him it would be so because Kyle traveled back in time to tell her it'd be so.
I didn't absolutely hate T4 (though my like of it has severely waned since May the more I think about it) and I did like moments of it and for the most part the casting. (I actually DID like Bale as Connor and Yelchin as Reese I thought was the highlight) It just was not the hard-core desperate future dystopia we deserved to finally see.
@antimatty: I will never tire of the original score. It's the only one that's in my regular shuffle. Though, I've always been partial to "Conversations By the Window" I think it is one of the most heartbreaking pieces of music ever.
@RCN8: Cameron's conceptual art is that: art. I remember feeling so inadaquette when doing story boards for short films I used to make that used stick figures and blob-y things. If I could have posters of all the art he made for Terminator in my home I would. I have some of the concept art from the first movie I keep meaning to print out nicely on high-res and frame...
The fansite hopeofthefuture.net is a wonderful resource for deleted and written but never filmed material from the Terminator franchise. The T:SCC writers used it as a resource all the time to flesh out the Terminator universe and do random hat tips (like naming a resistance fighter Sumner, after the soldier who was supposed to accompany Kyle Reese but got killed when he materialized with a fire escape ladder through his guts) to Cameron's films.
@Infernorhythm: Oh yeah! I love that movie.... totally awesome stuff. Can't believe I forgot it. Oh well. I think maybe now that we're close to 60 intro voiceovers, I'm going to stop adding new ones...
@steam23: OK I jut took a closer listen to some more of the list, and I take it back. I absolutely NEED to have these on vinyl! I'm going to go and find someone with a record press and get this shit on wax !!!
@John Hazard: Oh man... so great! See, this is what I was hoping would happen. People could point out the stuff i'd missed, and post clips. This post will be like the clearinghouse of great opening monologues. Thanks so much!
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I have to be honest and feel like the franchise is ruined again for me. I kind of felt like that with T3. Then out of nowhere T:SCC came along and rekindled it for me.
Of all the themes that show touched on the biggest for me was the whole Weaver thread and in a nutshell her comment that "You can't stop progress".
Skynet was not a cause it was a symptom. If people want to do something badly enough they will find a way. If a key player is taken out of the picture, the demand will still exist and someone or something else will fill the vacuum. None of the films dealt with this, not even T2, as much as I do love that film.
From that premise, that technology will always advance to the point where creating an AI is possible and humans will always have a desire to it, the HOWS of doing it become important. Instead of running around trying to stop an inevitable event you allow it to happen but mold a more favorable outcome.
Likewise I don't think John is nearly as important as Sarah seemed to think. I think the human desire to have a figurehead, a strong leader to rally under as they faced a very real threat of extinction would always be there. The very end of T:SCC seemed to touch on this.
I'm really sad to see the show go. I would have much preferred that thread of Terminator to perpetuate to the special effects dumbed down Transformers style with a Final Fantasy Spirits within lookining Arnie crap show that we got.
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I've always held that ideas will persist no matter what person thinks of it. It'd be like saying: take out Oppenheimer, Einstein, etc and POOF no more nukes. But it doesn't kill the idea of nuclear energy, oh it may delay it a little, but it would never truly stop it.
Also, I kind of agree to an extent on the John note. I mean, John is the epitome of the pre-destination paradox. He is the leader of mankind because Sarah told him it would be so because Kyle traveled back in time to tell her it'd be so.
I didn't absolutely hate T4 (though my like of it has severely waned since May the more I think about it) and I did like moments of it and for the most part the casting. (I actually DID like Bale as Connor and Yelchin as Reese I thought was the highlight) It just was not the hard-core desperate future dystopia we deserved to finally see.
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This extra scene stuff would of been really cool.
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