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    "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star

    Do We Need Graphic Torture in Our Dystopias?

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    Image of B B
    12/18/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    Wait, Red Sun orbiting "Super Earth?" It's Krypton!
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    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    FINALLY! A place to dump all of our garbage.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    12/17/09

    @FrankenPC: HA! +10
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    Super Earth? Isn't that the planet from Darkwing Duck where everyone has powers and Darkwing is "Ordinary Guy"?
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    12/17/09

    @Bill-Lee: +5
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    Image of tipsymongoose tipsymongoose
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    The water world is always the hardest level. Even harder than ice world, lava world, and everything-is-freakishly-larger-than-normal world.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    12/17/09

    @tipsymongoose: Not for frog suited Mario.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/17/09

    @EdificeComplex: are you sure that's not just a sperm from Yekaterinburg?
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    I say we suit up a black hole ship and head over for a look see. I volunteer.
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    Ixnay on the life, eh!

    Boiled, poached or nicely moisturised, will make no difference.

    At this temperature and pressure, good old H2O is a supersolvent and will dissolve all organic materials, including carbon, boron and silicon based life, plus droids, mechs, cyborgs and River Tam.

    I am however, very curious as to what colour Moistworld (there, I plant my flag, and name thee!) is.

    In the absence of conflicting data (and despite the unflattering local lighting) I'm going with blue.

    PS So glad to see that the "Just 13 parsecs away!", comes from the original Nature abstract ... and they say scientists have no poetry.
    Amscray!
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    Image of Vexxarr Vexxarr
    12/17/09

    @SJ_Edwards: yew aar riet. thir iz now lief on wahtur wurld thir. Ahnd it iz naht a thret tew ywe at awl. Iz naht lewking aht urth weeth atamik wepahns or jiunt sifunz fur tew tayk yur wahtur.
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    Image of Mav Mav
    12/17/09

    @SJ_Edwards: What about the organisms at the bottom of the ocean that live on vents? Is this planet hotter/more pressurised than that?

    I ask as my science degree was gleaned on a sofa (aka all I know I learned from the science channel).
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    12/17/09

    @Vexxarr: A giant siphon you say?
    ...and there was me, just thinking you were pleased to see us :)
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/17/09

    @SJ_Edwards: I second the name Moistworld.
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    Image of Vexxarr Vexxarr
    12/17/09

    @SJ_Edwards: wee ahr! Hapee tew see thet wahtur mower!
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    12/17/09

    @Vexxarr: Hey, we're seventy percent water too!
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    12/17/09

    @Mav: It's got a lot in common with the 'water' that comes out of our sea floor vents.
    That's supersolvent water, from the crust, at very high temperatures and pressures.
    It's loaded with huge levels of dissolved gases, minerals and metals ... nitrogen, noble gases, carbon dioxide, sulphur, iron, nickel, gold, platinum etc. etc., that pop out of solution, when the superheated solution hits cold sea water and appear as 'black smoke' pouring out of the vents (hence their name).
    There is an abundance of life living around these vents, living off the minerals and heat and the organisms that can live off them, but they live in very narrow thermal bounds (sometimes only a few centimetres wide) between cooking and freezing.
    Although there may be bacteria (and stuff that doesn't even qualify as that) 'living' further 'downhole' (and we are continually confronted with 'life', where it really, really 'shouldn't be') on our blue marble.
    On Moistworld the temperatures and pressures look like they'd be just too high.

    ... on the other hand, this is one big-ass planet and it too, must have some sort of 'boundary-layer' between the 'water' and the 'atmosphere', so maybe, just maybe there's something 'living' there too, hanging out on the margins.
    Ironically, it may be the very lack of minerals, dissolved in the water (revealed by the article writer's density calculations), that may have prevented this.
    Life likes water, but it needs an energy input and chemical building blocks.

    By the way, I wonder if Moistworld has a moon (or moons) ...

    ... and tides.

    PS I hereby name thee Wetmoon
    (or Wetmoon One and Wetmoon Two).
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    Image of Vexxarr Vexxarr
    12/18/09

    @SJ_Edwards: *sluuuuuurp* yehs...yew wur!
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    Image of g_e_e_k g_e_e_k
    12/19/09

    @SJ_Edwards: ... and silicon based life, plus droids, mechs, cyborgs and River Tam
    River Tam!!!
    blasphemy... sacrilege... you unbeliever! River Tam can survive any thing I tell you ... Anything...

    (sorry could not resist :P)
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    Image of SJ_Edwards SJ_Edwards
    12/19/09

    @g_e_e_k: Shall we vote on it?
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    Image of TemporalSword TemporalSword
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    13 parsecs? That's just over Han's Kessel run!
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    Image of imonfyre imonfyre
    12/17/09

    @TemporalSword: only we dont have hyperdrives that will do .5 past light speed
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    Image of braak:  You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    I propose we name it Krypton.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    12/17/09

    @braak: you can't create superman just by naming a planet krypton!
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    Image of braak:  You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/17/09

    @tetracycloide: Says you.
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    It's stuff like this that will make long space flights much more feasible.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    So basically the planet is one giant hot tub. I think we've just discovered the Cancun of the galaxy.
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    Image of SpammerOvTheGods SpammerOvTheGods
    12/17/09

    @EdificeComplex: it's where Cthulhu gets his party on.

    #@!
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    Image of dkissam dkissam
    12/17/09

    @EdificeComplex:
    Residents identified as anthropomorphic herpes.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    12/17/09

    @SpammerOvTheGods: Even the Great Old Ones love to dance.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    12/17/09

    @dkissam: I'll have to remember to pack my full body lycra suit when I go. Oh wait, I've said too much...
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    12/17/09

    In reply to "Super Earth" Discovered Orbiting A Red Dwarf Star
    Home of the Al dente spaghetti monster?
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    12/17/09

    @ManchuCandidate: With a Parmesan moon?
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    12/17/09

    @Hamslicer: Don't be ridiculous. The moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie.
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    12/17/09

    @Perhaps Not: That's no moon! It's a giant SPACE! pizza.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    12/17/09

    @schrodingers-katana: Wow, I actually heard the word "SPACE!" echo dramatically. "SPACE!, space!, ace!, ace! ace..."
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    12/17/09

    @Hamslicer: I aim to please. ;)
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