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MISS MERCY STREET
11/23/09

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"It will be an actor you've heard of, yes. We're not ruling anything out. We're looking at both, with the very well known and the "very talented but they may not be quite there yet."

Very well known: Shia LeBoeuf.

Not quite there yet: Zak Efron, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and the werewolf kid from New Moon.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on the rumour I heard.
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fatetwister64
11/23/09

@MISS MERCY STREET: The Beef strikes again!!
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mustlovebooknerd
11/23/09

@MISS MERCY STREET: Are you kidding? Zac Efron is huge. Everyone knows who he is and his pictures were everywhere for years (maybe they still are - I'm still ogling the old ones). But please god, he may be my husband, but I don't even want to THINK that he'd be considered for this. The Crow he is not.
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/23/09

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Im getting a kinda 'If it aint broke' vibe from this whole debacle!!!

Its Lee's swan song, its gritty, dark, funny and twisted. Everything points towards leaving it the hell alone.

They want to make it darker!! Maybe film the whole thing with the fuckin lights out!! Idiots.
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PrincessIncognita
11/23/09

@#c17057068: Seriously!! The original was like a lightning strike - beautiful and destructive. No way they can ever recapture it.
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GreyHammer
11/23/09

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well this should help hot topic sales.
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tipsymongoose
11/23/09

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Is there some vast fanbase I'm not aware of that's actually waiting for another Crow movie?
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@tipsymongoose: Since when did a fanbase (or lack thereof) actually drive anything Hollywood does?
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deliciousburglar
11/23/09

@tipsymongoose: lots of people want it remade so they can have another cheap halloween costume fad.
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kelz
11/23/09

@TemporalSword: Serenity? Boondock Saints?
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@kelz: You might have me with Serenity. Outraged fans and dvd sales I think did play a major role in getting that movie made. Not familiar enough with the Boondock Saints to know about that one.
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phoghat
11/23/09

@tipsymongoose:
Yes
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phoghat
11/23/09

@deliciousburglar:
Lots of emo kids
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Slappy_san
11/23/09

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Oh brother. I have no problems with remakes etc....but totally different makeup and a "dark superhero"?
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@Slappy_san: Yeah. The Crow isn't about superhero-ness and saving people or stopping maniacal supervillains. It's about revenge and loss.
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mordicai
11/23/09

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I'm hoping for a girl crow.
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@mordicai: That might not be too bad, actually. Would definitely send a message that this is a different Crow, but she'd have to be actually written as a woman, not as a guy who's just stunt-casted by a woman.
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Im_your_Huckleberry
11/23/09

@TemporalSword: @mordicai:
Summer Glau just called her agent.
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mordicai
11/23/09

@TemporalSword: I'm hoping one good thing that might come from this whole Twilight situation is that Hollywood might figure out that movies can have sci-fi/fantasy movies with female roles that aren't silly add-ons or, like you say, stuntcasting.
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AngryEddy
11/23/09

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So, by "moves forward with casting", you mean they're still looking for some sort of person, an actor perhaps, to play the role - but we don't have the slightest idea who that person is...right? That's about all I gathered from this.
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Lassus
11/23/09

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yawn
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dicksson
11/23/09

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Not a remake, it's a "Relaunch".

"...You know how Batman is compared to Batman Begins."

Does every douche hollywood producer/director say this now?
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@dicksson: It's not even a correct comparison. The Batmans were still about the SAME characters, he says this will be a different crow. I understand what he's trying to say, that the tone will be different, but the original Crow is hardly the same as Burton's Batman, so how much different can he really get?
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phoghat
11/23/09

@TemporalSword:
Here's the ticket. The Crow was a "supernatural" creature. After he was killed he came back from the dead to avenge his girlfriend's and his death. What I think that they'll do is turn him into a superhero, origin story and all.
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Tyrunn
11/23/09

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"It's really a whole relaunch of the franchise, much more of a dark superhero type."

Please don't be Bale, please don't be Bale, please don't be Bale!
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AngryEddy
11/23/09

@Tyrunn: WHAT DON'T YOU F%!#ING UNDERSTAND!?!
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redqueenmeg
11/23/09

@Tyrunn: 1. We're done professionally, you and me.
2. DARK. MORE DARK THAN THE CROW?!
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moifauxmail
11/23/09

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James O'Barr is a really nice guy. The Crow graphic novel is about as intensely personal a work as you can get that just happened to explode into this cultural phenomenon. I saw him speak over the summer in Chicago and he's as humble and decent a creator as I've ever met, talented as all get out too.

This nonsense about a Dark Superhero? Like Batman Begins? Come on. Pull the other one son.

I hope James is getting a nice big check and moves a shit-ton of books. That would be nice.
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TemporalSword
11/23/09

@moifauxmail: I attended a special screening of the Crow before it came out in '94 with O'Barr in attendance. The original novel he did was a way to deal with his wife's death, and then he'd become fast friends with Brandon and then when he died... You never saw such a sad dude, but he was happy the way the first movie came out. How can anything compete with that? Still have my signed copy of the novel.
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FrankenPC
11/23/09

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This is like re-doing The Dark Knight and re-casting Heath Ledger.

Hollyweird must be bats**t insane.
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ExtensionOfBob
11/23/09

@FrankenPC: Ehhhh...I don't think that comparison holds water b\c I think comparing Ledger to Nicholson is already comparing apples to oranges....and they've pretty much said they're doing something completely different from the first Crow movie...

...so it would be like rebooting Batman (again) and not having the Joker in it at all, but a different villain, if we're going to use the Batman comparison.

If I'm reading them correctly.
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FrankenPC
11/23/09

@ExtensionOfBob: Hmm...yeah. Still, the Crow WAS Brandon. I just can't imagine anyone else in that role.
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AngryEddy
11/23/09

@FrankenPC: Apparently you didn't see Edward Furlong's dramatic turn in the role. He made it his own!
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FrankenPC
11/23/09

@AngryEddy: No, I never saw it. I'll have to check it out.
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AngryEddy
11/23/09

@FrankenPC: Oh no no no... That was sarcasm. Please do not check it out.
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FrankenPC
11/23/09

@AngryEddy: LOL! You almost sent me on a fools errand! I heard the second movie was really bad, so I avoided it.
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AngryEddy
11/23/09

@FrankenPC: The second movie is actually pretty bad. Sadly, Furlong's Crow is actually the fourth entry in the series - and the second one to go direct to DVD. It is mind-blowingly bad. However, it also has the ever-hilarious Tara Reid doing her best to "act" and David Boreanaz looking completely out of place in what I believe to be the scene-chewingest role this side of Burt Reynolds in Dukes of Hazzard... From start to finish, it is a trainwreck of the highest order.

Also, there was a slight casting error with Furlong to begin with. He looks like one of those teenagers who has no business going trick or treating on Halloween...
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FrankenPC
11/23/09

@AngryEddy: "The Emo". They just gave it the wrong title.

Wait, there were FOUR? Who are these producers and where are their brains?
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Barnabus
11/23/09

@AngryEddy: Helena Bonham Carter looks like shit on that poster.
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Chip Skylark of Space
11/23/09

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Wow- looks like the front man for DISCIPLINE, Matthew Parmenter. I bet Matt sings better too.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/23/09

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....................

Please for the love of God someone tell these idiots that every Crow movie after the first one sucked it long and hard. This is one of those times where you simply cannot catch lightning in a bottle a second time. Let it go. Let this franchise rest in peace already.

Me to Hollywood: Just fucking stop with the remakes, retcons, revisionist bullshit already. Look we get it. You're trying to go with the 'sure thing' that's already got proven box office results, instead of taking a chance with something completely new. Well I'm telling you, take that chance. Try something new.
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Im_your_Huckleberry
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: (slow...clap) Spot on!
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schrodingers-katana
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Here here!
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SpammerOvTheGods
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: why so serious?

#@!
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Craig Dawson
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®:
I definitely appreciate original ideas but as far as i am concerned the new Batman movies were far better than the ones from the 90's, so if they hold up to that kind of quality for a new Crow movie I am all for it.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/23/09

@Craig Dawson: Well I agree with you with on the Batman films (I still like the first Batman, the rest of that time-frame were crap) however I don't see any point in continuing this. With Batman you can tell a new story each time. He's got a rogue's gallery of villains to do battle with. The Crow story had a specific beginning, middle & ending with Eric & Shelly. Everything after it as been 'The Crow, except with some other guy'. There's nothing else new to tell or expand upon. They're just variations of the original. It's a closed story. If they want to build a franchise using comic books (or graphic novels) as the source there's plenty more left out there to choose from.
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Craig Dawson
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®:
Very true that there is not a whole lot to expand upon.
I have a feeling they are going to try and start a new franchise by giving his origin story and return from the dead in the first movie but instead of allowing him to defeat the bad guy and rest in peace by the end of the first movie they will probably stretch it to 3 movies and he fights new villains and that same villain that killed him through out the 3 movies. That seems to be what they are doing in these types of comic book movie franchises.
So they definitely can go majorly wrong with this reboot, but we can only hope they make a new Crow movie with the quality of the newer Batman's.

I also liked the first Batman movie from the late 80's but I also feel the two newer ones are much better.
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jmg134
11/23/09

@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: I actually like "Batman Returns" cuz of Michelle Pfiefher's turn as Catwomen. I thought she did an amazing job with that character.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/23/09

@jmg134: She was fine. The Penguin's character was melded into some other character that Tim Burton must have dreamt about. Also there wasn't anything cool about a penguin army. It's not like they were sharks with frikken' lasers..
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
11/23/09

@Craig Dawson: I have to admit I did like the series, Crow: Stairway to Heaven. It had a good premise with Eric's character not just getting vengeance but also having to redeem his own prior bad acts so that he could move on and join Shelly. That was an interesting angle to explore unfortunately the series was canceled prematurely.
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Harlot
11/23/09

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No! No no no no!
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Chip Skylark of Space
11/23/09

@Harlot: Oh mama mia, mama mia, Mama Mia, let me go
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schrodingers-katana
11/23/09

@Chip Skylark of Space: Bismillah! No, we will not let you go

And the actual following lyric: Beelzebub has the devil put aside for me, for me, for me! (seems quite apropos to me for the producers and such)
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