Um, wasn't the whole "Phoenix force was never really Jean Grey" Thing a big ol' Retcon in the first place? That was pretty much the moment I stopped caring about Marvel comics, especially since Jim Shooter was all sanctimonious about how Phoenix "had to die." #startrek
Every time I see shitty, ridiculous retcons that bring back characters, my desire to pay attention to the franchise starts to take a nosedive.
For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.
I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
@Rocketknight: The trouble is that any given continuity can last, at beast, a few years. You can't have Peter Parker still haunted by the death of Gwen Stacy (or Uncle Ben, for that matter), when it in fact happened over 40 years ago. #startrek
I'd like to give the first book shout-out in this list to Bella Lind at the end of Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds.
There's a quick revival technique established early in the book by an alien race, but Bella's takes about 20 years due to the severity of her injuries. She's not even fully her, making the revival actually somewhat logical. #startrek
What about Whistler from Blade? Definitely, categorically dead (though offscreen) in the first, then appears as if by magic in the second. And let's not even go there with his having a daughter he never mentioned in the first two films... #startrek
John Sheridan doesn't even die after using up the 20 years of life given to him by Lorien -- he pulls a Frodo and is taken beyond the Galactic Rim by the First Ones. #startrek
When it comes to Boba Fett, I think I accept the movie version of his death over Dark Empire's, although the idea that the sarlacc couldn't digest Fett was kind of funny. #startrek
@Bill-Lee: I really, really am trying not to be so bitter and such a nay-sayer, but doesn't anybody else think Boba Fett is the most overrated character ever? #startrek
Is anyone else left with this unquenchable desire to just call "Bullshit" on the entire science-fiction-industrial complex for all this? Doesn't it get old to have these characters killed, brought back, and re-killed all the blasted time just so the characters' creators can trick us all out of more of our money and time?
@LoganAdams: It definitely cuts any kind of drama out of the deaths. When Captain America "died" people who knew comics didn't even blink.
The worse part about this is the ridiculous retcons. Seriously DC, Superboy punches on reality and that fixes everything? Why even explain it when it is just that nonsensical?
Venture Bros. desperately needs to parody this. Just bring back Dr. Dugong and don't try to explain it at all. #startrek
I think Star Wars fandom has come back around on itself and the true fanboys just wish he had never made the damn movies in the first place. Ouroboros. #startrek
fett climbing out of the sarlaac was doable since his armor would have saved him from the digestive jusices/spikes of the sarlaac for a time. it is said that it digests its prey over thousands of years to prolong the nutriment it gets from its scarce anything that falls in prey. and since book fetts are much more resourceful than movie fetts it worked.
also as far as i'm concerned lucas can take a dive into one himself, preferably after he goes back in time and fixes the mess he made of his franchise by never releasing prequels.
The whole point of the Blackest Night is that it's attacking the issue that death isn't permanent in comics. It's trying to address that issue specifically by making it more public and trying to seal it as a concrete thing. Will it keep? Probably not. It's a good attempt to fix things though. #blackestnight
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For instance, I read on Wikipedia that Gwen Stacy dies in Ultimate Spider-Man, just like in the mainstream universe. Cool, right? I heard soon after that she was brought back. Now I have zero desire to read it past that point.
I wish people would kill off their characters and leave them that way. DC and Marvel especially. #startrek
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There's a quick revival technique established early in the book by an alien race, but Bella's takes about 20 years due to the severity of her injuries. She's not even fully her, making the revival actually somewhat logical. #startrek
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also i think he wanted to keep his hot daughter away from blade. he was a closet racist.
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A crow-bar. #startrek
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Anyone? #startrek
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The worse part about this is the ridiculous retcons. Seriously DC, Superboy punches on reality and that fixes everything? Why even explain it when it is just that nonsensical?
Venture Bros. desperately needs to parody this. Just bring back Dr. Dugong and don't try to explain it at all. #startrek
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also as far as i'm concerned lucas can take a dive into one himself, preferably after he goes back in time and fixes the mess he made of his franchise by never releasing prequels.
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As seen in the batman Blackest Night issues.. Thats not the truth.. They are just bodys with living rings on them. #blackestnight