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nutmeag
09/02/09

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You can read a few of the stories for free online: [www.johnjosephadams.com] I've only read "A Study in Emerald" so far, but I plan on reading the others eventually!
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bobert
09/01/09

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I would hardly call Holmes a "misogynist". He treated women he came into contact with at least as much courtesy and respect as men. Often, women would apply to him for help after they'd been treated as a "silly little thing" by the men in their lives, and he would take them completely seriously. An his confirmed bachelorhood was not a sign of misogyny, but rather one aspect of a complex and somewhat tortured personality.

Watson was married twice, but it would be ludicrous to assert that he hated children simply because he didn't have any.
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@bobert: Okay, I did oversimplify his attitude towards women. He did respect them, often with a bit of that "deadlier of the species" wariness. Not too surprising if you consider that many of the women he met in his career had probably done some remarkable and frightening things. Irene Adler-- The Woman, was held in the highest regard by Holmes for outwitting him. I doubt he ever had many romantic relationships with the fairer sex. I also scoff at the notion that he and Watson ever had anything going on either.
All that kissy-face stuff Holmes would dismiss as a waste of time.
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@bobert: I'm going to change that to "misanthropic humanist".

Ugh, I am so fan-servicey.
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jbq
09/01/09

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Well, schucks. Can't be more than a few weeks ago when I was thinking of picking up a Sherlock Holmes-anthology or other, as I only have Conan-Doyle's first stories in a battered Penguin paperback. This is not exactly what I was thinking, but it sounds too cool to miss, and most of these stories I've never even heard of. Thanks, Chris!
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@jbq: Vel bekomme!
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jbq
09/02/09

@Grey_Area: Haha, officially impressed :-D
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Grey_Area
09/02/09

@jbq: Du er lett imponert. (Google Translate, awaaaay!)
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jbq
09/02/09

@Grey_Area: But you took the time, and that's what counts. Unusually accurate Google translation there, by the by, they tend to be all jumbled-up
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
09/01/09

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I find this editor's stuff to be of varying quality... uneven, shall we say. Their anthology "Federations" had great and awesome reprints, but the original stories just didn't measure up and most of them should have been embarrassed rather than pleased to be in a book with the greats and near-greats. Big disappointment to me.

So if this is all reprints, no new stuff (as the review implies), I'm interested. Will have to inquire of my library.

(later: I got 3 new mysteries and a Kage Baker today from them! w00t!)

PS I read "Study in Emerald" online for free somewhere in the past year and it's great.
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: two stories and a short essay are new the rest have been around for a while.
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I_Like_Bunnies
09/01/09

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I actually even love "Young Sherlock Holmes".

Represent.
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@I_Like_Bunnies: I liked it too.
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tammygarrison
09/02/09

@I_Like_Bunnies: I have FIERCE love for Young Sherlock Holmes... and the Billy Wilder movie.
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jianna
09/01/09

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Being a Holmes-head (I'm still trying to think of a title I like better than "Sherlockian" which sounds far too stuffy) I like to collect the weirdest Holmes-related crap I can find. My favorite is a similar but likely lower quality my sister got for me one Christmas in crummy paperback form - "Sherlock Holmes in Orbit."

Included are stories where Holmes has a computer installed in his brain, goes to the moon, and inexplicably seems to turn himself and Watson into swarms of bees.
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
09/01/09

@jianna: I read that, but I don't remember the bees. You'd think that would have stuck in my head.
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SmirkMorgan
09/01/09

@jianna: I think the term you are seeking is "Holmesian", but "Sherlockian" is the generally accepted North American term. (Yes, I used to subscribe to Hounds of the Internet listserve)

I just read a great Holmes pastiche collection a month or so ago called "Gaslight Grimoire" it features many of the authors this collection has (Hambly, Roden etc) and I think possibly the same Flaxman Low crossover. One of my favorite stories features a very elderly Holmes in LA during WWII collaborating with a Phillip Marlow type detective against an ancient evil. While most of the stories are horror/supernatural, "The Red Planet League" is arguably sci-fi (although a very fanciful sci-fi).
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@SmirkMorgan: I prefer "Holmesian" even if I am a Yank.
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tammygarrison
09/02/09

@SmirkMorgan: I had a teacher/friend who was a member of the Baker Street Irregulars. He was fun and awesome. The Hounds of the Internet listserv, however, turned me off to the fandom. Yes, it's a fandom, just like the Whovians or the SNP kids... they just take themselves more pretentiously and seriously than other fandoms (and they were there first). Basically they suck all the fun right out of SH. I find myself being a much more casual pop culture-oriented fan now days.
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SmirkMorgan
09/02/09

@tammygarrison: I did say "used to be" ;)
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SmirkMorgan
09/02/09

@Grey_Area: I actually do as well. "Sherlockian" always struck me as a touch too familiar.
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Sunshineyness
09/01/09

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To be fair to Doyle he only became obsessed with the spirituality hokum after the death of his son in WW1. (And according to wikipedia his wife, nephews, brother, and some brother-in-laws all passed away around the same time)

Before that he was by all accounts a very rational man.
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crashedpc - Haifisch
09/01/09

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Well, heck, Sherlock Holmes AND Lovecraftian/Sci-fi underpinnings. This reminds me of Shadows over Baker Street, which I didn't quite get into. Perhaps I will try this one out instead.
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Grey_Area
09/01/09

@crashedpc : ゴキブリ and 蟑螂 division: Three of the stories here were also in Shadows over Baker Street. Look over the Table of contents at the link above to see if you want to pursue this one.
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Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L.
09/01/09

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I only just read A Study in Emerald recently myself - and yes, it is a very good read for fans of the Old Ones. Be interesting to browse the other tales too, I think.

Oh, if you can, try and find Reichenbach Falls - a BBC drama (based on a short story) by Ian Rankin that plays with both Holmes and crime fiction stereotypes brilliantly.
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