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After 5 years and 5 seasons I am very, very tired of hearing people bitch and moan about more questions vs. more answers. You think there WEREN'T answers in this episode? Who is Jacob? What is the statue? What's the deal with resurrected-Locke? Where are Rose and Bernard? What is The Incident? How did Chang lose his hand? ALL ANSWERED.
Moreover, this show has, from DAY ONE, EPISODE ONE, clearly built up mystery upon mystery, question upon question, because it is not an omniscient show. The narrative is 3rd person -- we see a LOT of characters' perspectives -- but we know what the characters know. Sometimes we have further insights -- like knowing who Jacob is, or knowing that Sawyer met Jack's dad in a bar once -- but part of the excitement of watching LOST is finding out as the characters do.
It has been this way for FIVE YEARS. There is ANOTHER SEASON to set up. If seasop 6 ends with only questions, I would be irate too. But you know what you signed up for with this show.
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I really would like to see something more to Jacob and Notjacob, than biblical brothers in war.
I hope it will all make sense in the end.
I still think that H-bomb was the key to time travel, it exploded imploded magnetic anomaly converted and BAM! losties are in ze fjuture.
Can anyone explain why we have to wait so long for the final season?
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"We're the bad guys."
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He meant the tourists. Ajira Air has been wanting to sell vacation packages to the island. Jacob has been trying to stall development on the island, but black-shirt guy wants to build condos and hotels.
That's what the whole fight is about. It's quite sad really when you think about it.
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So they take out the fissile core and lo and behold it fits inside a backpack and is light enough for someone to run while carrying it. Now this just seems preposterous. This thing comes from 1954. Back in the 90s, there were rumors of tactical fisson bombs that were small enough to fit in a very large suitcase and weighed enough so that one person could barely lug it around.
I think the writers originally wanted the whole Hydrogen bomb to be used, but they got to this episode and realized that moving it around would take up too much time, so they just did a tiny little fissile core. I'm all for suspending disbelief, but Jughead is actual history, and turning the fissile core into this tiny hand held device contradicts the history. If someone can cite a reliable source that says a fissile core is really that small and light, please post the citation.
And Juliet could not have survived that fall. There's the force of gravity, plus the magnetic force that was strong enough to crumple the drilling rig, plus a very deep pit; she would have been falling very very fast, onto a pile of twisted metal. It's just preposterous.
Overall, I really liked the episode, but these details just make me upset.
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As for Juliet, the island has done plenty of healing & saving. Not that far-fetched to think the island WANTED Juliet to survive long enough to detonate the bomb.
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A dude dies and is resurrected but it's not him it's a magical guy from hundreds of years ago who looks and sounds exactly like the dead guy and may actually also be a smoke demon who can look and act like tons of other people but doesn't like loud noises and consumes souls, but it's the long fall that kills the immersion/suspension of disbelief. Riiiiiiiight...
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It reminded me of those old WB cartoons where the sheep and the Coyote would clock in for their day as mortal enemies, they would greet each other the same way. Does anyone else remember those?
It's also odd because that seen took place 300-500 years ago and those greetings were defiantly modern day, but I'm glad they left them in, it set a great tone.
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It appears that Jacob was on the opposing team from Sayid, thus working with Widmore on some level. This makes sense if Widmore was long supposed to have been the leader, Jacob would never like that Ben had Widmore ejected and never welcomed him in as the new leader.
What that means, I have no clue. I know there are a ton of loose ends that probably won't all get tidy resolutions, I just hope that the final conclusion, ie the reasons for what Jacob, his enemy, Ben, Widmore, is compelling. It better not be because they wanted to be with some whiny dead-weight woman.
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Male statue + crocodile head = Sobek. Son of Set, one of the underworld gods, worshipped as a god of fertility (crocodile = Nile = Nile floods = fertility), as well as a guide and protector of spirits after death, he is also thought to be a rectifier of evil deeds. Loaded, loaded, go to Wikipedia.
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The destroyed statue could be a symbol of the island inhabitant's inability to procreate.
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I suspect the destruction of the statue may have something to do with the Black Rock, or the boat we saw last night in the water.
Or an earthquake. Perhaps a time shift?
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As such, I'm going to wait until the show or the podcast definitively tells me what that ship is before I call it anything.
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But it also seems odd that the writers would throw another ship in there with the sole purpose being to date the scene.
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1. It's the Black Rock, we're in 1845, and something's gonna happen that gets the Black Rock into the middle of the Island, and the Statue broken.
2. It's not 1845, it's earlier, maybe, (maybe a lot earlier -- Columbus discovered the Americas in 1492 in a boat like that), and it's Richard's boat. This is the boat we see him replicating in-bottle, perhaps in a moment of nostalgia before everything changes again. This leads to two more possibilities:
2a. Richard brought Jacob the boat. If Richard is Jacob's advisor, it'd be within his duties. And Esau (that's what I'm callin' him until the writers tell me otherwise!) clearly has had this happen over and over again; he's sick of it, and sick of Jacob. And Jacob is fucking with him because he can.
2b. Richard is on the boat and has been touched by Jacob in some way, therefore leading him to the Island and allowing Jacob to bestow upon him immortality and his position as advisor.
3. It's a totally different boat and there goes a little bit of my brain dribllin' out my ear again...
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