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TheFaithfulStone
11/30/09

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There's another scene in "A New Hope" that I'm sure that I've seen where C3PO gets trapped in the wall on the Corvette. (Very similar to the scene where the computer eats Annie Ross in Superman 3.) It's where he's coming from when he finds R2 and Leia in the corridor. It's in the book, so I'm pretty sure I'm not totally imagining it, but I swear I've seen it before.
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Sunshineyness
11/29/09

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Hehe. The 12 year old in me quite enjoyed more Han and Leia kissing scenes.
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LittleDragon
11/29/09

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Those first two clips have been the bane of my existance. I knew they existed but every one always said they didn't and said that there was no way I could have seen them in a theatrical release because I wasn't around yet.
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Bill-Lee
11/29/09

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I've seen that Jabba clip before and always with the preface that the human actor was just a stand in for an effects shot to be added later, Lucas never intended for Jabba to be depicted as human.
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Alex Anderson
11/29/09

@Bill-Lee: Which explains the line, "Jabba, you're a wonderful human being."
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Bill-Lee
11/29/09

@Alex Anderson: Solo is using the line as a snarky figure of speech, it doesn't have to be literal.
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Bill-Lee: What's really strange is that when Marvel did their adaptation they had no clue what Jabba would look like, so they just used a face off one of the background monsters.
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Bill-Lee
11/29/09

@Wookie1972: I used to have this comic. I remember this scene and that both Obi Wan and Vader had red light sabers.
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db4dbms
11/29/09

@Alex Anderson: I'm pretty sure Bill-Lee is right - the actor was a stand in while they figured out what he would look like and CGI it in.
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erzwatts
11/30/09

@db4dbms: There was no CGI'ing stuff in in the 70's. There was no CGI as we know it at that point. I think that was the origional Jabba.
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Wookie1972
11/30/09

@Bill-Lee: Not only were they red, they were fencing swords, complete with hilts. To the artist's credit, he was working off a few stills rather than a finished movie.
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Bill-Lee
11/30/09

@erzwatts: Lucas has stated in interviews that Jabba was going to be a stop motion puppet of some sort.
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Wookie1972
11/30/09

@erzwatts: No, but there *was* matting and stop-motion. That was what Lucas was hoping to do.
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chakrabs
11/29/09

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WTF, Wall-E in Star Wars?
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@chakrabs: Well, Wall-E (at least his voice) *was* in Star Wars.
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Pessimippopotamus
11/29/09

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The deleted scene from RotS made me sick. They just saw a colleague of theirs get brutally murdered in front of their eyes and Lucas has them immediately break into cheap visual jokes.
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tande04
11/29/09

@Pessimippopotamus: The "baseball" signs?

I always thought it was a nice touch showing the years of partnership and all.

It is admittedly though one of those things (like much of the PT) that was better conceived then executed.
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EdificeComplex
11/29/09

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Why does Ten Forward look so small in that Nemesis clip? I realize that the Enterprise E was smaller in terms of crew compliment than D, but that looked no bigger than the retrofitted galley on Voyager.
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Lassus
11/29/09

@EdificeComplex: Because there is absolutely nothing about Nemesis that didn't suck.
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Cash907Censored
11/29/09

@EdificeComplex:
It looked the same size because it was the same set, and it wasn't Ten Forward, it was just an officer's lounge. Ten Forward was the size it was because it served three times as many people, on a much larger ship.
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TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle
11/29/09

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Wow. There's badly written dialogue and then there's Lucas written dialogue.

"It appears someone doesn't want us to know about this Kamino system"

"Which means there's something happening on that system we should know about"

/facepalm
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Platypus Man
11/29/09

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I love the T3 clip. It's the best part of that movie, despite not actually being in the movie.
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ManchuCandidate
11/29/09

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Leia and Solo making out was pretty much the only actual sexual expression out of the entire Star Wars Saga (the green slave girl's boob and Leia slave girl outfit doesn't count.) Might have done Lucas a world of good if he added some sex to Star Wars. No wonder they needed clones.

As for Sgt William Candy, I'm glad they cut it. That was pretty stupid especially when Candy sounds like what one would consider the stereotype of a Southern fried idiot.
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OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
11/29/09

@ManchuCandidate: Dont forget when Han Solo copped a feel.
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

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Oh, and BTW, the audio from the first clip is not from the original, but from the radio play. And the Luke builds a lightsaber clip is a fan edit using also using audio from the radio play - which didn't even have Mark Hamill as Luke! (I checked the original Youtube link and apparently the original poster never intended it as anything but a fan edit)
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Davio
11/29/09

@Wookie1972: I was just about to start complaining that there was something fishy about that clip. I knew it wasn't Hamill, I knew the footage was from yodas hut, but I just couldn't figure out where the voice and idea came from.

I think its fair to say I've watched these films too many times in my life, but thank you sir for saving me the amount of time it would have taken to find all that out!
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

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I had no idea a young Tim Roth played Greedo!
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
11/29/09

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Ever since my youth I've never understood why they won't serve Droids in that bar. Are they droidist? They're robots all they do is sit there silently and not drink.

Aaand as I'm writing this I thinking to myself the only way I'd hate a droid that much is if they at one point were a massive army that tried taking over the universe killing everyone in it's path. Could it be that his line about hating droids is a subtle reference to the prequels to come years later? Did Lucas actually have it that thought out? I think that he did NOT!
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: In the Tales of the Mos Eisley Cantina book, which is, of course, far from canon, one story explains that it's the bar owner's personal prejudice. However, Han also showed some droid prejudice in the Brian Daley books. Yeah, I'm a geek.
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Marasai
11/29/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.:
that's exactly the point. droids take up room and don't buy anything.
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: Oh and I think it's the "not drinking" part that might have something to do with it. Got to make money somehow.
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
11/29/09

@Marasai: Oh. like designated drivers! Got it.
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
11/29/09

@Wookie1972: Please tell me more about his prejudice. I really have been curious for a long time. Did a droid steal his bike when he was a kid?

I get the no drinking thing but I don't think that's it. Hell I've been in places where they say you have to buy a minimum but it's the "Their Kind" line that really sells the hatred as opposed to the good business men. Furthermore how discerning can the dude be? Aside from the regular rabble and vagabonds he's got some seriously bad dudes in there. Assassin twins, Some dude with a Death Sentence in multiple systems and an architect having the worst day of his life.
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: According to Wookieepedia, which references the short story, the bartender in question admitted that he liked throwing out droids "because he knew he could offend no one by asking." So it was a personal prejudice rather than a establishment policy.

Also (and I had forgotten bout the end of the story), in the end he learned to love droids when a droid helped him brew a drink using pheremones secreted by the dead Greedo. Yeah, that's pretty messed up.

As for Han, I think it was just that he didn't like machines that talked back.
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
11/29/09

@Wookie1972: Wow. That is messed up. Did they mention if it tastes different if he shoots first?
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: I honestly don't remember.
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Wookie1972
11/29/09

@Marasai: Apparently this guy don't exist in the Star Wars universe.
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/29/09

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Some of those are awesome!!! The Terminator one ive seen before. What a crazy ass clip.

Now I know I might turn a few people here....but Watchmen was amazing. I personally cant wait for the super-duper extended edition. This scene was left out and I think its absolutly beautiful and tragic all in the same go!!!
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/29/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): Sorry you'll have to link to youtube. Its Hollis Masons death.

Why the hell has youtube become such god-damn Nazis over sharing links. Assholes.
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CyberSlug Labs
11/30/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): A lot of "official" postings on YouTube block embedding now because the embedded players code can be exploited to download copies of the video. Disabling embedding also prevents websites like KeepVid from snagging downloadable links.
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/30/09

@CyberSlug Labs: Why have the link there in the first place then??? Its a borrowed code. Nothing more. Rather than blocking safe users who just want to add the link to a safe legit website. Why cant they just find a better way of stopping the downloads!!

Another thing that pissed me off was something so trivial that its worth overlooking once. But hundreds!! Thats just not cricket. I tried to watch an Iron Maiden vid on youtube and it said 'sorry not available in your country'. Im sorry WHAT!! Iron Maiden is british fuckin metal band. I can understand an american vid not playing over here. It happens a lot with ther MTV player and that I can live with. But blocking UK users from watching UK stuff!! Eh!!!????
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txtracer
11/17/08

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Yep, Chewie is the real hero of Star Wars, organizing the Ewoks to enable taking out the shield generator; otherwise it's all for nothing. But Luke did serve as an important diversion: if he hadn't been around, the Emperor might have paid more attention to what was going on down on The Forest-Moon of Endor (that's its name, you have to say all that every time- "The Forest-Moon of Endor").

I didn't even know that half of these characters had names, until I read this thread. And then I wished I still didn't know. What kind of a name is Mon Mothma? Lobot, is that anything like "robot"? Egad.
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RollsRoyceRevenge
11/17/08

@txtracer: Mon Mothma is a wonderful name. Her sister Gon Godzirra is also lovely. You should see their place in Ton Tokyho.

Lobot is indeed a little like "robot." More importantly, he is a smidgen more than one half of "lobotomy."
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