@twophrasebark: Speaking of next gen...Isn't Lore sort of a survivor after their colony was wiped out by the Crystaline Entity. Sure, he helped cause it, but who wants to be nitpicky?
The Great Vampire - Who fled to E-Space to escape the Rassilon's mighty bowships. (nothing's specifically mentioned about their planet of origin, but it's stated that The Timelords completely eradicated them from our universe, so we can assume it's probably no longer around)
Sutekh the Destroyer - Last of the Osirians. 'nuff said.
The Fendahl - Another ancient enemy of the Time Lords. Fearing the power of a being capable of absorbing all energy. They destroyed the Fifth Planet, hoping the Fendahl had perished too, but somehow the skull survived and projected itself to Earth.
Meglos - Ol' Cactus face was the last Zolfa-Thuran, who's entire race perished in a civil war over control of the Dodecahedron. His planet didn't actually get destroyed, but it did turn into a sandy, inhospitable craphole, and he was the only survivor, so it still counts.
The Xeraphin - This one's a bit iffy. Technically, they're an entire race of ancient beings that narrowly escaped destruction during a great war by transforming themselves into a single gestalt intelligence.
Delta - Queen of the Chimeron and last survivor of her race. Except for the egg that she carries in her backpack, and later 50's greaser Billy, who proves once and for all that guys will do *anything* for hot alien poontang.
Kane - The very next episode also features the lone survivor of his race. Kane got dumped on an ice planet with a bio-mechanical dragon to toast his ass if he got too uppity. Apparently, he was just biding his time for several million years, since when he tries to set course for his home world of Proamnon to exact his revenge, he realises he has been a prisoner so long that the planet no longer exists. He then kills himself by opening a window and re-enacting a scene from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'
@Sairus Delaney: Well, we don't necessarily know that the Furyans had their planet destroyed. Could have been plain, old fashion ethnic cleansing on this account.
@capnrob: I thought Mike and the 'bots ended up back on Earth in the final episode of MST3K, watching cheesy movies in their Minneapolis bachelor pad. Ah, sweet freedom!
@capnrob: Mike helped the Holy Bomb cult detonate their atomic warhead, killing everybody on the future 'Planet of the Apes' version of Earth, except for Bobo.
He then also had the Nanites blow up the observer's planet with a #7 special (though several of the other observers escaped to reappear in a later episode) and destroyed another unnamed planet with a baking soda bomb.
Technically, you could also say he was responsible for the death of his own eyelash mites, millions of nanites, and the Hubble telescope.
In fact, any panspermia plot is pretty much going to be scientific nonsense, unless you put the panspermia back close to a billion years. The "Ark" theory, that humans and animals came to Earth in relatively recent (ie. last 100,000 and in fact far more years) is really, really, really debunked. Thanks to creationists it is perhaps the most debunked idea in the history of history.
I wrote an essay on these questions here, because so many people cling to the Battlestar Galactica plot of 1978.
Now, as to the question of Battlestar, it is not at all clear that the new series is a Panspermia story. Moore, the producer was asked this question after season 1, and he said it would not be such a story in his blog, but he was going to try to write a story to merge the ideas of the old show and the scientific non-reality of recent panspermia.
There are two possible options now, since the "Earth" they found is not our Earth (since I am pretty sure our real planet was not named by Cylon colonists.)
1) This "Earth" is given that name, to match the old show's quest, but is not at all our Earth in any meaningful way, not the same culture, no fossils in the ground, etc.
2) There is a real Earth out there, as shown at the end of season 3. One growing opinion is that we'll see it, since the stars in the scene of the Cylon civil war are exactly the Earth stars, and aside from a few related scenes, those stars are not seen anywhere else, including on "Earth" the 13th colony.
But we'll see. In the meantime check out the essay.
@bradtem: I felt it best to hedge my bets on the new series; for one thing, I'm still working through it (at quite the feverish pace, I might add). But the original series is an open-and-shut case.
I saw "Mission to Mars" on a plane, which is the only reason I did. Said plane was from Silicon Valley to Worldcon, and thus full of science and SF geeks. You could tell where the fans were sitting by the derisive snorts, annoyed whispering, and uproarious laughter in places the makers hadn't intended there to be a joke.
My guess is that BSG is set in the far-off future, and the Colonials and the Cylons are all descendants of a post-Singularity humanity that nearly wiped itself out millennia before.
In the not too distant future, of course, humans and robots will be united in struggle against cheesy movies -- the worst they can find.
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The Great Vampire - Who fled to E-Space to escape the Rassilon's mighty bowships. (nothing's specifically mentioned about their planet of origin, but it's stated that The Timelords completely eradicated them from our universe, so we can assume it's probably no longer around)
Sutekh the Destroyer - Last of the Osirians. 'nuff said.
The Fendahl - Another ancient enemy of the Time Lords. Fearing the power of a being capable of absorbing all energy. They destroyed the Fifth Planet, hoping the Fendahl had perished too, but somehow the skull survived and projected itself to Earth.
Meglos - Ol' Cactus face was the last Zolfa-Thuran, who's entire race perished in a civil war over control of the Dodecahedron. His planet didn't actually get destroyed, but it did turn into a sandy, inhospitable craphole, and he was the only survivor, so it still counts.
The Xeraphin - This one's a bit iffy. Technically, they're an entire race of ancient beings that narrowly escaped destruction during a great war by transforming themselves into a single gestalt intelligence.
Delta - Queen of the Chimeron and last survivor of her race. Except for the egg that she carries in her backpack, and later 50's greaser Billy, who proves once and for all that guys will do *anything* for hot alien poontang.
Kane - The very next episode also features the lone survivor of his race. Kane got dumped on an ice planet with a bio-mechanical dragon to toast his ass if he got too uppity. Apparently, he was just biding his time for several million years, since when he tries to set course for his home world of Proamnon to exact his revenge, he realises he has been a prisoner so long that the planet no longer exists. He then kills himself by opening a window and re-enacting a scene from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'
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"That's my Princess!"
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The Phantoms in Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (Though they got their dead asses rekilled at the end)
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That tragic distinction goes to Nyssa, who watched her planet Traken be destroyed by the bizarrely universe-spanning threat in Logopolis.
of course it was universe spanning. it was the held off Heat Death of the Universe ;)
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Oh man, do we have some things to say to you...
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He then also had the Nanites blow up the observer's planet with a #7 special (though several of the other observers escaped to reappear in a later episode) and destroyed another unnamed planet with a baking soda bomb.
Technically, you could also say he was responsible for the death of his own eyelash mites, millions of nanites, and the Hubble telescope.
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I wrote an essay on these questions here, because so many people cling to the Battlestar Galactica plot of 1978.
You can find it at: [ideas.4brad.com]
Now, as to the question of Battlestar, it is not at all clear that the new series is a Panspermia story. Moore, the producer was asked this question after season 1, and he said it would not be such a story in his blog, but he was going to try to write a story to merge the ideas of the old show and the scientific non-reality of recent panspermia.
There are two possible options now, since the "Earth" they found is not our Earth (since I am pretty sure our real planet was not named by Cylon colonists.)
1) This "Earth" is given that name, to match the old show's quest, but is not at all our Earth in any meaningful way, not the same culture, no fossils in the ground, etc.
2) There is a real Earth out there, as shown at the end of season 3. One growing opinion is that we'll see it, since the stars in the scene of the Cylon civil war are exactly the Earth stars, and aside from a few related scenes, those stars are not seen anywhere else, including on "Earth" the 13th colony.
But we'll see. In the meantime check out the essay.
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In the not too distant future, of course, humans and robots will be united in struggle against cheesy movies -- the worst they can find.
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