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Hello...I thought Mummies were just another species of zombie. Mummies are zombies with nitrates (natron) added. They've been salted and dried into beef jerky, but they're still zombies. Zombies you see shuffling and lurching and decaying all over the place in movies are the all-natural, organic variety of zombie with no preservatives added. #monsters
@Wookie1972: I just want to see zombies vs. lolcats.
I assume by "interesting" you mean the comments will be flooded with "OMG! [pretty, vapid Twilight actor] is sooooo dreamy! Zombies are GROSS!" Which you can pretty much copy and paste if you ever find yourself asking, How does wanion feel about this? #monsters
Just to settle this in my head - I'm gonna say that we go with the most well known (or at least repeated) bits of myth attached to these monsters rather than aaaaalll those possibilities.
So I'm going for the George Romero Zombie and the old school 'Curse of Tutankhamen' style mummy.
Zombies win hands down by those standards! 'Everything they kill gets up and kills', and added to that whilst (beyond Imhotep in The Mummy movies) Zombies have their own apocalypse attached to them, the Mummy is really after REVENGE. Even if they were after me that would be preferable than an entire planet filled with the hungry, infectious and possibly-fast-and-inexhaustible living dead.
Oh, and Zombie movies beat Mummy movies easy. #monsters
Just to settle this in my head - I'm gonna say that we go with the most well known (or at least repeated) bits of myth attached to these monsters rather than aaaaalll those possibilities.
So I'm going for the George Romero Zombie and the old school 'Curse of Tutankhamen' style mummy.
Zombies win hands down by those standards! 'Everything they kill gets up and kills', and added to that whilst (beyond Imhotep in The Mummy movies) Zombies have their own apocalypse attached to them, the Mummy is really after REVENGE. Even if they were after me that would be preferable than an entire planet filled with the hungry, infectious and possibly-fast-and-inexhaustible living dead.
Oh, and Zombie movies beat Mummy movies easy. #monsters
@theblazeuk: Also just realised, according to Monster Island/Nation/Planet, mummies are in fact zombies but they can think, control the horde with their brain and cast magic spells.
If its THAT mummy then it wins.
[but i voted zombies cos I am stereotypically easy to please] #monsters
@theblazeuk: I do agree that a mummy is a kind of zombie, but can mummies really "think?" The mummy from the Brendan Fraser movie is more of a resurrected sorceror than a reanimated corpse, while the old school mummy is a classical zombie in bandages. The difference is that a zombie usually does not travel alone and seems to want brainz, while a mummy's actions are directed towards revenge for disturbing their rest/stealing their treasurez.
I'd say for this discussion to ignore the Fraser Mummy and stick to the old bandages type. Zombies come in numbers, but Mummies have stealth- they don't just chase, they sneak, they'll flank you and pop up where you don't expect them. If a zombie beats you because of tenacity and numbers, then that's your lot, but if one out-thinks you then your brainz were probably not worth his time to begin with.
I already voted Zombie, but I think I may have just convinced myself that Mummy is the victor. #monsters
@BlueBeard: Actually, the Brendan Frasier version was just a flashier version of the original mummy, which was exactly a resurrected, immortal sorcerer. It's only later version of that movie that the mummy became more and more like a regular old, bandage-wrapped shambling zombie. #monsters
I voted Mummy. Mummies have some thought pattern other than "Braiiinnnss!" and in the fight, the zombie is trying to eat the mummy's brain, the mummy has no brain. Meanwhile, the mummy has taken one of his own ribs and is stabbing the zombie with it.
@geesejuggler: I think we'd have a stalemate. Mummies usually only go after people to get back some ancient Egyptian hoo-ha, and unless that hoo-ha is fresh, juicy brains, you're going to have trouble getting these two together.
Plus, stabbing a zombie with a bone isn't a reliable way to kill it. The only sure way is a headshot, and with all those bandages, mummies have trouble getting their fingers on the trigger.
I think it'd be more like a buddy cop movie where they fight at first, but end up being friends...and maybe more?
Zombies are winning? C'mon people! Who are you gonna fear more - a mystically reanimated undead king of Egypt or the shambling, slobbering lifeless remains of some emo teenager? #monsters
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@braak: With the whole H1N1 thing though, a decomposing dude that smells like feet wrapped in bacon probably wouldn't make it off the pier.
Not to mention all the Homeland Security alarms that would be rung by a man traveling from Egypt, covered head to toes in cloth, and carrying i.d. outdated by several millenniums.
@omgwtflolbbqbye: Well, except the point of the mummy is that he isn't covered in the cloth. He was preserved for eternity by the cloth wrappings, and then he takes them off and he's just Boris Karloff. And, admittedly, Boris Karloff is pretty weird-looking, but he just looks like a creepy guy with a skin condition and TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS.
There is no question that guy can get on whatever god-damn boat he wants.
Even if there was an H1N1 quarantine, which there isn't.
Also, man, you can't make all your mummy evaluations based on Monster Squad. #monsters
@braak: Well, he would be more like a creepy guy with a skin condition and twenty million dollars... of stolen shit!
He doesn't have any actual functional currency, just be a pile of ancient golden coins and ingots and artifacts.
All of which are so extravagant in appearance and worth that the second he tried to fence it or cash it it in, about a million alarms would go off at Interpol.
Unless he had certificates of ownership printed for all of them, which would have disintegrated already anyways, everyone would assume he's just some crazy thief/grave robber.
And even if he could prove that it belonged to him, all that junk would either get seized by the government of Egypt since they legally own all those tombs, or he'd be forced to pay 5,000 years of back taxes, which mean's he'd spend the next 5,000 years at the Cairo Bazzar selling little plastic obelisks and camel rides to tourists.
@omgwtflolbbqbye: Unless he took the simple expedient of melting the gold shit down into gold ingots, and mailing it in to Cash For Gold or something.
Or selling the artifacts to UPenn, or any one of dozens black market collectors who will spend ridiculous amounts of money for Egyptian artifacts.
Or he could just fence it, wait for the interpol agents to come after him, and then curse the shit out of them. You can't be arrested for cursing people. It is factually impossible to file charges against someone for magically causing you to have lung rot.
MUMMY DOES NOT FEAR YOUR INTERPOL AGENTS. #monsters
@omgwtflolbbqbye: Actually, now that I think about it, who even cares if he can leave Karnak? He can use his mystical scrying pool and put a curse on you from wherever he is, or send his ka out in the form of a horrible bird to give you leprosy or something.
The guy's immortal--not just undead, but functionally immortal--super-strong, he's got magical powers, and he doesn't have a rotten brain.
Shit, man, you can stop a zombie by going up a ladder.
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Should have waited until later rounds to throw in zombies. They are too popular and I imagine they will careen through the first couple of rounds like a... well, horde of zombies. Then again, I can never predict these smackdowns, so there is that... #monsters
@Jester21: I really, really hope not. It's simply no fun when ti's done that way (yeah, I'm still bitter). And Twilight notwithstanding, the kings of the undead are still vampires. I may be sick of them, but, really, vampires are the grand-daddies of them all.
(and if you throw in stuff like "vampires can't go out in daylight," you have to throw in the fact that - Marvel Zombies notwithstanding - a well-placed shotgun blow can take out a zombie.) #monsters
zombies. definitely zombies. with mummies, you can just unravel their garments and they're quite fragile and dust-like. zombies are just un-dead ferocious creatures. with bad teeth. #monsters
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However, the second it's zombies vs. vampires, someone is going to link this to a Twilight fan board.... then it will get interesting... #monsters
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I assume by "interesting" you mean the comments will be flooded with "OMG! [pretty, vapid Twilight actor] is sooooo dreamy! Zombies are GROSS!" Which you can pretty much copy and paste if you ever find yourself asking, How does wanion feel about this? #monsters
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So I'm going for the George Romero Zombie and the old school 'Curse of Tutankhamen' style mummy.
Zombies win hands down by those standards! 'Everything they kill gets up and kills', and added to that whilst (beyond Imhotep in The Mummy movies) Zombies have their own apocalypse attached to them, the Mummy is really after REVENGE. Even if they were after me that would be preferable than an entire planet filled with the hungry, infectious and possibly-fast-and-inexhaustible living dead.
Oh, and Zombie movies beat Mummy movies easy. #monsters
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So I'm going for the George Romero Zombie and the old school 'Curse of Tutankhamen' style mummy.
Zombies win hands down by those standards! 'Everything they kill gets up and kills', and added to that whilst (beyond Imhotep in The Mummy movies) Zombies have their own apocalypse attached to them, the Mummy is really after REVENGE. Even if they were after me that would be preferable than an entire planet filled with the hungry, infectious and possibly-fast-and-inexhaustible living dead.
Oh, and Zombie movies beat Mummy movies easy. #monsters
10/26/09
If its THAT mummy then it wins.
[but i voted zombies cos I am stereotypically easy to please] #monsters
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I'd say for this discussion to ignore the Fraser Mummy and stick to the old bandages type. Zombies come in numbers, but Mummies have stealth- they don't just chase, they sneak, they'll flank you and pop up where you don't expect them. If a zombie beats you because of tenacity and numbers, then that's your lot, but if one out-thinks you then your brainz were probably not worth his time to begin with.
I already voted Zombie, but I think I may have just convinced myself that Mummy is the victor. #monsters
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Plus, stabbing a zombie with a bone isn't a reliable way to kill it. The only sure way is a headshot, and with all those bandages, mummies have trouble getting their fingers on the trigger.
I think it'd be more like a buddy cop movie where they fight at first, but end up being friends...and maybe more?
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Because, look: Imhotep would annihilate the shit out of a zombie. He's GOT an army of zombies. #monsters
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Cause I'm not going to be intimidated by a monster I could literally wipe my ass with. #monsters
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Not to mention all the Homeland Security alarms that would be rung by a man traveling from Egypt, covered head to toes in cloth, and carrying i.d. outdated by several millenniums.
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There is no question that guy can get on whatever god-damn boat he wants.
Even if there was an H1N1 quarantine, which there isn't.
Also, man, you can't make all your mummy evaluations based on Monster Squad. #monsters
10/26/09
He doesn't have any actual functional currency, just be a pile of ancient golden coins and ingots and artifacts.
All of which are so extravagant in appearance and worth that the second he tried to fence it or cash it it in, about a million alarms would go off at Interpol.
Unless he had certificates of ownership printed for all of them, which would have disintegrated already anyways, everyone would assume he's just some crazy thief/grave robber.
And even if he could prove that it belonged to him, all that junk would either get seized by the government of Egypt since they legally own all those tombs, or he'd be forced to pay 5,000 years of back taxes, which mean's he'd spend the next 5,000 years at the Cairo Bazzar selling little plastic obelisks and camel rides to tourists.
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Or selling the artifacts to UPenn, or any one of dozens black market collectors who will spend ridiculous amounts of money for Egyptian artifacts.
Or he could just fence it, wait for the interpol agents to come after him, and then curse the shit out of them. You can't be arrested for cursing people. It is factually impossible to file charges against someone for magically causing you to have lung rot.
MUMMY DOES NOT FEAR YOUR INTERPOL AGENTS. #monsters
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The guy's immortal--not just undead, but functionally immortal--super-strong, he's got magical powers, and he doesn't have a rotten brain.
Shit, man, you can stop a zombie by going up a ladder.
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You sir, are my hero. #monsters
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(and if you throw in stuff like "vampires can't go out in daylight," you have to throw in the fact that - Marvel Zombies notwithstanding - a well-placed shotgun blow can take out a zombie.) #monsters
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Imhotep FTW! #monsters
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The Three Stooges fought Mummies, not Zombies. #monsters