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"The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act" - Sounds like something out of 1984 or Children of Men. Apparently the British Libertarian party's plan of sending copies of Orwell's book to parliament with the message of "this is a warning not a blueprint" really didn't work.
@Evelyn82C: Yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize that Britain doesn't have the same protections for freedom of expression. This is really disturbing, but not unexpected.
it's a feel good law. there'll be a coupla cases - if any - then it'll be forgotten about.
just think. how would you enforce it? they've not been able to enforce the Obscene Publications Act (which incidentally already covered said images and could be argued to cover the comics as well) and that's been in effect since the 60's.
the comics won't be banned and they are worrying over nothing.
remember how more that 3 ppl in a group in the UK was a rave and you could all be arrested? there wasn't sudden mass arrests round the country of birthday parties etc...
Relying upon non-enforcement of bad laws to protect individual liberties is a dreadfully imprudent choice.
For example, here in the US, small town police departments regularly use old blue laws to persecute consenting adults who engage in certain sexual activities.
@KhaiJB: These laws are hard to enforce and generally fade away after a while, but the danger is still very real. There are two issues.
1: if the people are behind it and begin to rat others out over it then it takes on a spirit of its own. Go read "Fahrenheit 451".
2: It can become a backdoor law for prosecuting/persecuting "unwanted" individuals. Much like how they got Al Capone (who was a criminal) on tax charges. No one pays attention to the law until the weird guy in town with the crazy hair and off ideas has an old ish of Strontium Dog and they use that as an excuse to do whatever.
I'm with Kle. You gotta fight these things as hard as you can.
you know why? I'm FROM the UK. I know how it works.
and I'm seeing a lot of ppl from the US waving banners about 'you must fight this' etc.. Who don't know how things work in the UK.
I'm fed up with arguing over trite little things. I'm taking a break from this website for awhile.... there's to much here thats getting under my skin atm.
@KhaiJB: Taking your ball and going home huh? Isn't that the attitude that lost you guys your empire?
KIDDING!
We're not fighting you, we're discussing it. Don't take offense. We were telling you our opinions, and based on yours I know that this isn't something that people in the UK should worry about. But, were they to do this in the US it is something that we should very much worry about because, for us, censorship is step one towards big trouble.
I pretty much own issues 1-10 of every comic image ever put out. Most were super awful, and really sexed-up, but they went overboard on the art, which is often quite spectacular.
Lefeild used to draw for X-Force, which I have a bunch of too, and it's true his art was crazed and way over the top, but there was something fun about it. All his heroes had 35% too many muscles, 150% too many pouches and bullets attached to their bodies, about 110% too much boob, and were always drawn in this crazy perspective where their bodies would fade into toothpicks.
But the one thing you can say is that you always, always knew exactly who was drawing the comics. Which is something.
@Pope John Peeps II: Yeah...I could tell you when Mike McMahon provided the "art" for a comic book, and I can tell you just as surely that it's not really a good thing. The reason why you can tell with certainty that it's a specific artist is because _NOONE_WANTS_TO_IMITATE_HIM_.
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just think. how would you enforce it? they've not been able to enforce the Obscene Publications Act (which incidentally already covered said images and could be argued to cover the comics as well) and that's been in effect since the 60's.
the comics won't be banned and they are worrying over nothing.
remember how more that 3 ppl in a group in the UK was a rave and you could all be arrested? there wasn't sudden mass arrests round the country of birthday parties etc...
enough with the scaremongering...
01/31/09
Relying upon non-enforcement of bad laws to protect individual liberties is a dreadfully imprudent choice.
For example, here in the US, small town police departments regularly use old blue laws to persecute consenting adults who engage in certain sexual activities.
Bad laws should be fought tooth and nail.
-Kle.
01/31/09
trust me. in six months, this law will forgotten about and the next legal crisis / scare will be the in thing.
that's the way Parliament works.... alien to the US way of looking at things I know. but it's not the US ;)
01/31/09
see the Poll Tax Riots for details.
01/31/09
do we really want to see a Riot led by Perverts and Comic Book Fans???
where would I stand for starters... with the Perverts or the Fans...!
01/31/09
1: if the people are behind it and begin to rat others out over it then it takes on a spirit of its own. Go read "Fahrenheit 451".
2: It can become a backdoor law for prosecuting/persecuting "unwanted" individuals. Much like how they got Al Capone (who was a criminal) on tax charges. No one pays attention to the law until the weird guy in town with the crazy hair and off ideas has an old ish of Strontium Dog and they use that as an excuse to do whatever.
I'm with Kle. You gotta fight these things as hard as you can.
01/31/09
you know why? I'm FROM the UK. I know how it works.
and I'm seeing a lot of ppl from the US waving banners about 'you must fight this' etc.. Who don't know how things work in the UK.
I'm fed up with arguing over trite little things. I'm taking a break from this website for awhile.... there's to much here thats getting under my skin atm.
01/31/09
KIDDING!
We're not fighting you, we're discussing it. Don't take offense. We were telling you our opinions, and based on yours I know that this isn't something that people in the UK should worry about. But, were they to do this in the US it is something that we should very much worry about because, for us, censorship is step one towards big trouble.
11/18/08
40 Worst Rob Liefeld Drawings
[progressiveboink.com]
I'd seen his art before, but never knew who did it. This article forced the 90s to make a lot more sense to me. And it's hilarious.
11/19/08
That was so many kinds of awesome. Thank you.
11/18/08
11/19/08
Nah, all the better to pummel Liefeld soundly about the head with.
11/18/08
11/19/08
Ye...wait, no, I forgot. I don't own a fireplace.
11/18/08
Lefeild used to draw for X-Force, which I have a bunch of too, and it's true his art was crazed and way over the top, but there was something fun about it. All his heroes had 35% too many muscles, 150% too many pouches and bullets attached to their bodies, about 110% too much boob, and were always drawn in this crazy perspective where their bodies would fade into toothpicks.
But the one thing you can say is that you always, always knew exactly who was drawing the comics. Which is something.
11/18/08
11/18/08
11/18/08
Yeah...I could tell you when Mike McMahon provided the "art" for a comic book, and I can tell you just as surely that it's not really a good thing. The reason why you can tell with certainty that it's a specific artist is because _NOONE_WANTS_TO_IMITATE_HIM_.