Dawn of the Dead, especially considering the original ending, was also quite heartbreaking - the characters finally realizing the futility of even trying to survive. Roger's tearful insistence that he's going to try his best not to come back stands out - both because he fears what he will become and because he knows Peter will have to shoot him. Same with Stephen.
The Shining also has that brutal moment that toys with hope - Dick makes the difficult journey from Florida to the Overlook and there's the brief second when you think Wendy and Danny are saved, which is all quickly dispatched with an axe. #heartbreakinghorror
Great Article! I saw the film "Ginger Snaps" on IFC last night about two sisters where the older sister is slowly changing into a werewolf. The younger sister tries in vain to find a cure for her older sister. At the end, the younger sister killed the older sister who had transformed into a werewolf by then. I wanted to cry.
I also watched Shaun of the Dead on DVD yesterday and I cried when Shaun has to kill his mom after she was transformed into a zombie. His stepfather had already transformed. That scene gets me everytime.
The Shining was one of the scariest films I have ever seen.
The best horror I've seen for a loooong while was Martyrs. By the end, everything is so hopeless and terrifying that the images have embedded themselves in my brain. Its horrific in just about every sense of the word. #heartbreakinghorror
I think to have a true understanding of the horror genre one really needs to study Greek tragedy. They understood the implicit relationship that comedy and horror have in the tragic form (that's what the intertwined symbol of the dramedy masks are all about, after all) and how the overall fickleness of one's destiny can both be absurd and horrific all at the same time.
As Jean Cocteau put it:
"Tragedy is clean, it is restful, it is flawless. It has nothing to do with melodrama -- with wicked villains, persecuted maidens, avengers, sudden revelations and eleventh-hour repentances. Death, in a melodrama, is really horrible because it is never inevitable. The dear old father might so easily have been saved; the honest young man might so easily have brought in the police five minutes earlier.
In a tragedy, nothing is in doubt and everyone's destiny is known. That makes for tranquility. There is a sort of fellow-feeling among characters in a tragedy: he who kills is as innocent as he who gets killed: it's all a matter of what part you are playing. Tragedy is restful; and the reason is that hope, that foul deceitful thing, has no part in it. There isn't any hope. You're trapped. The whole sky has fallen on you, and all you can do about it is shout. Don't mistake me: I said 'shout': I did not say groan, whimper, complain. That, you cannot do. But you can shout aloud; you can get at all those things said that you never dared say--or never even knew till then. And you don't say these things because it will do any good to say them: you know better than that. You say them for their own sake; you say them because you learn a lot from them."
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention David Cronenberg's the Fly. And am kind of shocked it wasn't mentioned under the "When your loved ones turns monstrous"... I think if you took out the whole turning into a fly aspect of the film, the act of watching your loved one die of a horrible disease and then the fear of that disease transfering to your baby...
It's really a crushing film, emotionally. Plus it has vomit that eats peoples hands off. #heartbreakinghorror
@dicksson: The original version of The Fly is terribly heartrending. I cried my eyes out at the end. Truly a tragedy, rather than a horror, but altogether a great film. #heartbreakinghorror
@dicksson: I thought District 9 played this angle pretty well too. The scenes where he is beginning to realize he will never be able to see his wife again because he is becoming a monster were pretty horrifying to try to empathize with. #heartbreakinghorror
Thank you for articulating one of the reasons I love classic horror from the 30's and 40's so much and one of the weakest points where the trajectory of modern horror aborts itself.
In those classic horrors, the drama derived from the idea of a universe so frightfully full of meaning, where a very real battle between very real Good and Evil was going on, that the fate of each soul was of the most paramount importance. What happens to Mina, Frank Stanley, Larry Talbot, the Frankenstein Monster and the little girl he accidentally kills is really, really important. People are important.
In modern horror, we get the opposite senario, where the drama is supposed to be derived from the idea of a universe so frightfully devoid of meaning, where we're all just meatbags, that all that is left is the bittersweet curse of survival. But even the best examples of that begin with the premise that people are important in order to undermine it. We have to care about Ben in order to be horrified by what happens to him and what it means for us.
Too much modern horror forgets this and begins with the premise that people are not important so that it can entertain us with the creative ways in which it finds to destroy meaningless human lives. Who cares about the people killed by Michael Myers, Jigsaw or Roland Emmerich?
However, without getting real human characters, it's just pornography. It's bad drama. It's not horrifying... at best it's just gross. I personally can't stomach it because it's an outright affront to how I experience my own life and those of the people around me. Even the horror of it: to stop and really consider that each person you see on the commute to work has their own life, loves, tragedies, and hopes is frightening and beautiful all at once. People really are important. I can't pack that in to a film with characters who are less human than real people I know. #heartbreakinghorror
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to explain concepts like this to friends of mine. For me, watching horror films always evokes deep gut-wrenching sadness well before any feelings of fear.
I think for me, at core, it's the depictions of blatant, intense and miserable suffering. #heartbreakinghorror
Welcome to my world. I gave up on horror long ago because 1) I don't like to be scared and 2) I don't like watching people suffer and die. It's one thing if it's the quick death before they know what's happened, it's something again when it takes time and they're begging and pleading to live. It's why the worst deaths in Alien are of Veronica Cartwright and Yaphett Kotto. She's frozen with horror and he could kill the Alien, but he'd kill her too and decides to go and fight it and...dies screaming. I almost gave Scream a shot because it's supposed to be funny and witty, but I caught a few seconds in a video store and all I saw was a terrified Drew Barrymore die a horrible death. I don't think that's fun. And the death of Laura Palmer's cousin was one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. I was physically ill after seeing it.
@AngriestGeek: I think emotionally removing one's self from a film in order to "enjoy" torture or death can be bad for emotionally maturity. I for a long time considered myself quite the scholar of horror films, especially those from Asia, but at some point as I grew into my twenties my nerves became raw, and I suppose mortality got the best of me. I don't want to see someone die and suffer; I don't want to make life meaningless and a survival story, and this is coming from someone who is an atheist. I'm not sure if I'm becoming a pussy in my old age, but I don't really care: I like goodness and prefer my terror to come in other forms than mindless torture porn, even if there might be some sort of witty, ironic, sardonic subtext beneath the blood and guts. #heartbreakinghorror
@ampersandparade: I cannot watch these torture films either. I have never seen any of the Saws or Hostels, but I will be freaked out forever by the Rob Zombie films.
I usually don't have a problem with death, even violent death in films. But being tortured slowly... no thanks. Don't need to see that. #heartbreakinghorror
Slightly off topic, but also related (I think, anyways), is the mixed message most (if not all) horror films give by making sure none of the victims are too likeable.
Obviously the worst culprits are slasher movies, where the giant, usually taciturn, always (sooner or later) undead, masked murderer obligingly makes sure to mop up all the pot heads, fornicators, stuck up snobs or token blacks before getting round to the lucid, virgin tomboy who's too outwardly vulnerable to be stuck up.
The one time I finally sat down to watch Rob Zombie's bitchslap to John Carpenter (better known as Rob Zombie's Halloween), I stopped watching halfway because I kept seeing this same thing over and over again. Nearly every victim is made to "deserve" their death, from the abusive father, to the rude nurse, and then Dr. Loomis calls the Michael Meyers a psycopath.
Psycopaths don't need a reason to kill, and they don't care who deserves their wrath. They strike without provocation and, like Republicans, usually go after "likeable" people first, because they`re usually vulnerable.
Wow, that was a long post. The point of it (I hope) was ultimately this:
Most slasher (and many other types of horror) movies actually sabotage any chance of creating any actual horror by dehumanizing the victims, almost more so than the films supposed "monster".
Also, exposure to water may leave you wet, and smoking is bad for your health. #heartbreakinghorror
I am currently watching "Night of the Living Dead" and am struck by the fact that the characters are remarkable for being realistic in their varied reactions to the horrific situation. Much has been made of the film as being a sort of "No Exit"--that bad situations bring out the worst in people--and there is a sort of critical complacency that seems to see Ben as the sole worthy person in the scenario. I disagree--past some initial and very realistic arguing, Ben, Helen, Tom, Judy, Harry, Barbara and Karen behave as well as their respective situations allow them. That this does them no good at all is part of the film's true existentialistic horror.
A word about Barbara. She may rub feminist viewers the wrong way as a sort of helpless Fay Wray type (a criticism I never understood, by the way--if you are being lugged around the Empire State Building by a 40 foot ape, screaming your head off seems the logical reaction) but her descent into catatonia is remarkably realistic and actually a direct contravention of the idea that the female lead in any horror or action film can witness depravity and violence on a World War III scale and still be up for a kiss with the hero at the end. Oh no she fucking wouldn't be. #heartbreakinghorror
This was something I never thought about until my kids became teenagers.
Now every time another young person is brutally murdered in some horror movie, part of me is saying "Yay! One less horrible kid in the world" - (and let's face it, they are all horrible, my own included) - but another part is saying "What about their mother?" #heartbreakinghorror
@therewasadoor: Absolutely, and one of the reasons I find most teen-kill flicks morally as well as aesthetically repugnant. I don't think there should or even could be an age limit on victims in horror or other films in general--but the willingness for filmmakers to treat teenagers as disposable recepticles for torture strikes me as repulsive far beyond any grue associated with the actual slayings. #heartbreakinghorror
@RollsRoyceRevenge: I am one, and I gotta say that if anyone's going provoke a psychotic into a revenge rampage, it's bored teenagers. #heartbreakinghorror
This was a great read, Lauren. I have no problem suspending my disbelief when it comes to super-powers, alien cultures, or any of the myriad forms of time travel possible in the Star Trek universe, but nearly any time someone dies in a movie or show -- even if they don't show it and it just looks like people must have died -- it trips my brain for a second, like, "Well, someone whose feelings will not be so much as barely acknowledged by this story is gonna be upset tonight." #heartbreakinghorror
Horror films that play death for laughs generally lose me fairly quickly, no matter how clever the details. Verhoven and Tarantino are both guilty parties here. Lynch, on the other hand, manages to infuse even the grimmest situations with a bizarre humor but never denies the destructive trauma of death. Think of how unhinged the Palmers and the rest of Twin Peaks were after Laura's death (well, they were all fairly unhinged before, but they got even worse). One of the things that made the original "A Nightmare of Elm Street" so shocking was that the dead teenager trope was shown to involve funerals, weeping freinds, antidepressants, shock therapy--all the things that actually happen after a violent death. Nancy was a real person reacting in a real way to unimaginable horror--I think you could remove the supernatural element almost entirely and still have a terrifying film. #heartbreakinghorror
You know, I never understood exactly what the purpose of the monkey's paw was. If it was a metaphor for the fallibility of greed, it always seemed sort of silly, since the paw just sort of did whatever it wanted regardless of the wish. I mean, if you wish for money, and the paw causes a meteor to smash into the earth and molten gold to shower down upon the spot you were recently standing, isn't that just pretty stupid and pointless?
Why didn't the paw just murder a bunch of people? It makes just about as much sense as to grant a wish in whatever insane way you want. #heartbreakinghorror
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The Shining also has that brutal moment that toys with hope - Dick makes the difficult journey from Florida to the Overlook and there's the brief second when you think Wendy and Danny are saved, which is all quickly dispatched with an axe. #heartbreakinghorror
11/01/09
I also watched Shaun of the Dead on DVD yesterday and I cried when Shaun has to kill his mom after she was transformed into a zombie. His stepfather had already transformed. That scene gets me everytime.
The Shining was one of the scariest films I have ever seen.
All good choices! #heartbreakinghorror
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As Jean Cocteau put it:
"Tragedy is clean, it is restful, it is flawless. It has nothing to do with melodrama -- with wicked villains, persecuted maidens, avengers, sudden revelations and eleventh-hour repentances. Death, in a melodrama, is really horrible because it is never inevitable. The dear old father might so easily have been saved; the honest young man might so easily have brought in the police five minutes earlier.
In a tragedy, nothing is in doubt and everyone's destiny is known. That makes for tranquility. There is a sort of fellow-feeling among characters in a tragedy: he who kills is as innocent as he who gets killed: it's all a matter of what part you are playing. Tragedy is restful; and the reason is that hope, that foul deceitful thing, has no part in it. There isn't any hope. You're trapped. The whole sky has fallen on you, and all you can do about it is shout. Don't mistake me: I said 'shout': I did not say groan, whimper, complain. That, you cannot do. But you can shout aloud; you can get at all those things said that you never dared say--or never even knew till then. And you don't say these things because it will do any good to say them: you know better than that. You say them for their own sake; you say them because you learn a lot from them."
Now, that's great horror.
11/01/09
It's really a crushing film, emotionally. Plus it has vomit that eats peoples hands off. #heartbreakinghorror
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In those classic horrors, the drama derived from the idea of a universe so frightfully full of meaning, where a very real battle between very real Good and Evil was going on, that the fate of each soul was of the most paramount importance. What happens to Mina, Frank Stanley, Larry Talbot, the Frankenstein Monster and the little girl he accidentally kills is really, really important. People are important.
In modern horror, we get the opposite senario, where the drama is supposed to be derived from the idea of a universe so frightfully devoid of meaning, where we're all just meatbags, that all that is left is the bittersweet curse of survival. But even the best examples of that begin with the premise that people are important in order to undermine it. We have to care about Ben in order to be horrified by what happens to him and what it means for us.
Too much modern horror forgets this and begins with the premise that people are not important so that it can entertain us with the creative ways in which it finds to destroy meaningless human lives. Who cares about the people killed by Michael Myers, Jigsaw or Roland Emmerich?
However, without getting real human characters, it's just pornography. It's bad drama. It's not horrifying... at best it's just gross. I personally can't stomach it because it's an outright affront to how I experience my own life and those of the people around me. Even the horror of it: to stop and really consider that each person you see on the commute to work has their own life, loves, tragedies, and hopes is frightening and beautiful all at once. People really are important. I can't pack that in to a film with characters who are less human than real people I know. #heartbreakinghorror
10/31/09
I can't tell you how many times I've tried to explain concepts like this to friends of mine. For me, watching horror films always evokes deep gut-wrenching sadness well before any feelings of fear.
I think for me, at core, it's the depictions of blatant, intense and miserable suffering. #heartbreakinghorror
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11/01/09
11/02/09
I usually don't have a problem with death, even violent death in films. But being tortured slowly... no thanks. Don't need to see that. #heartbreakinghorror
10/31/09
Obviously the worst culprits are slasher movies, where the giant, usually taciturn, always (sooner or later) undead, masked murderer obligingly makes sure to mop up all the pot heads, fornicators, stuck up snobs or token blacks before getting round to the lucid, virgin tomboy who's too outwardly vulnerable to be stuck up.
The one time I finally sat down to watch Rob Zombie's bitchslap to John Carpenter (better known as Rob Zombie's Halloween), I stopped watching halfway because I kept seeing this same thing over and over again. Nearly every victim is made to "deserve" their death, from the abusive father, to the rude nurse, and then Dr. Loomis calls the Michael Meyers a psycopath.
Psycopaths don't need a reason to kill, and they don't care who deserves their wrath. They strike without provocation and, like Republicans, usually go after "likeable" people first, because they`re usually vulnerable.
Wow, that was a long post. The point of it (I hope) was ultimately this:
Most slasher (and many other types of horror) movies actually sabotage any chance of creating any actual horror by dehumanizing the victims, almost more so than the films supposed "monster".
Also, exposure to water may leave you wet, and smoking is bad for your health. #heartbreakinghorror
10/31/09
A word about Barbara. She may rub feminist viewers the wrong way as a sort of helpless Fay Wray type (a criticism I never understood, by the way--if you are being lugged around the Empire State Building by a 40 foot ape, screaming your head off seems the logical reaction) but her descent into catatonia is remarkably realistic and actually a direct contravention of the idea that the female lead in any horror or action film can witness depravity and violence on a World War III scale and still be up for a kiss with the hero at the end. Oh no she fucking wouldn't be. #heartbreakinghorror
10/31/09
Now every time another young person is brutally murdered in some horror movie, part of me is saying "Yay! One less horrible kid in the world" - (and let's face it, they are all horrible, my own included) - but another part is saying "What about their mother?" #heartbreakinghorror
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Why didn't the paw just murder a bunch of people? It makes just about as much sense as to grant a wish in whatever insane way you want. #heartbreakinghorror