okay people, i know I'm the only one who wants this but can we all conspire to get Wes Anderson to do a version of "Alice in Wonderland"? It will be twee and weird and will probably feature a lot of slow motion side tracking set to 70's pop songs, but at least it will get everyone out of the gothity-goth-goth setting of Alice that has been dragging it down since, I don't know the video game came out. Besides, it'll look so cool.
@KungMcGraw: I actually didn't like Deschanel, either. I swear she played that entire movie as though she suffered from mild mental retardation. Every ten seconds she was just gawping and staring blankly at something.
@blatanville: A few days to a week after the show you need to put out a spoiler alert, but eventually we like to talk openly about things and not have to worry about people waiting years to see something.
After hearing many negative things about I picked it up with as much of an open mind as I could muster. Really wanted to like it, terribly disappointed.
Perhaps my expectations were set to high after reading the dystopian industrial treatment of Oz in Tad Williams' Otherlands novels. It was a brief segment in a slightly-better-than-mediocre series of novels but still very evocative.
It's always the same in TV land. Good programs get killed off or mangled through bad development while they keep taking the turds and giving them a spit-shine polish....
Oh man, I really wanted to like Tin Man, but it resisted my efforts. I enjoyed how it was recast in a half-whimsical, half-steampunk mold, but I felt like it never quite developed past the "look! we're being so innovative! Emerald City is a police state! Aunt and Uncle Gale are robots!" mind-set ... and Zooey Deschanel's blank "who me?" face/acting didn't help. But I'm also in the camp that thinks you should have something new to say if you attempt a revision/adaptation (I know that's a hot topic here), and I think I was hoping for more of that since the title character is the Tin Man. Instead it felt like all of the innovation went into the visual trappings and the story ended up as just another isn't-that-girl-so-special! story.
That said, though, Neal McDonough was one of the best actors on the show, and his character the most interesting, so I'd give this a go. Especially if they bring back Glitch.
I haven't seen Tin Man, but I really want to; the reviews for it have been split about evenly down the middle, and anyway, I like to form my own opinions of things anyway without going along with the crowd.
They're split about 50/50 because the series was kinda 50/50ish, really. There were a lot of cool concepts (although a few stinker ideas as well), and some good performances (although, much as I like her as an actress, Zooey seemed lost in this role).
However, the plot was weak, and the pacing was, at times, very off.
I'm not sure how I feel about it as a series. The original story they tried for felt like it either should have been paired down to one, 2-hour event, or fleshed out to give it more time. Of course, now that story is over, so who know if they could pull off an expanded-universe concept.
@darkmoonfirelyte: She didn't seem lost. She seemed stoned out of her gourd. That seems even more likely if you watch her interview clips from the bonus features.
@happysquid: Just do yourself a favor and _don't_ watch the sequel, Merlin's Apprentice. It sorta works like an alternate ending to the original miniseries, only with added suck, blow, and more suck thrown in.
The important details are as follows:
1. Merlin, who is still pretty young at this point, and still has magic, picks up an apprentice.
2. Then Merlin dies.
3. Forget everything that happens in the last 5-10 minutes of the original miniseries if you expect this movie to mesh with the original.
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I totally agree. While I thought most of the casting was spot-on, the whole film had a cheesy look and a yawn-y adapted plot.
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I'll still watch this, though.
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No matter how far his career has slipped since Max Headroom, you can't help but find him deliciously cheesy.
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Ugh. Pass.
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Oh.. and Darth Vader is Luke's Father.
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And a very young Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO.
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02/19/09
Perhaps my expectations were set to high after reading the dystopian industrial treatment of Oz in Tad Williams' Otherlands novels. It was a brief segment in a slightly-better-than-mediocre series of novels but still very evocative.
Sorry, Tin Man was just painful to watch.
02/19/09
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That said, though, Neal McDonough was one of the best actors on the show, and his character the most interesting, so I'd give this a go. Especially if they bring back Glitch.
02/20/09
Would it help if they recast Zooey's character with Anna Friel? They look about the same, but Anna can act.
02/20/09
That's about how I felt.
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Tin Man gets picked up, while Lost Room (arguably the best 'Original SciFi Channel production' they've ever come up with) just fades into the ether?
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INDEED.
Tin Man was badly acted and badly written tripe.
I do like the "idea" of it though.
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They're split about 50/50 because the series was kinda 50/50ish, really. There were a lot of cool concepts (although a few stinker ideas as well), and some good performances (although, much as I like her as an actress, Zooey seemed lost in this role).
However, the plot was weak, and the pacing was, at times, very off.
I'm not sure how I feel about it as a series. The original story they tried for felt like it either should have been paired down to one, 2-hour event, or fleshed out to give it more time. Of course, now that story is over, so who know if they could pull off an expanded-universe concept.
02/20/09
She didn't seem lost. She seemed stoned out of her gourd. That seems even more likely if you watch her interview clips from the bonus features.
02/19/09
02/19/09
And really--about the only things that are 10th Kingdom level are the Dune and Children of Dune series (serieses? Serii?).
Tinman could have been awesome, but IMO just settled for bizarrely endearing.
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02/20/09
Dune had craptastic costume designs, and Children of Dune miscast Susan Sarandon as a young lady. Try "Merlin" on for size.
02/20/09
02/20/09
Just do yourself a favor and _don't_ watch the sequel, Merlin's Apprentice. It sorta works like an alternate ending to the original miniseries, only with added suck, blow, and more suck thrown in.
The important details are as follows:
1. Merlin, who is still pretty young at this point, and still has magic, picks up an apprentice.
2. Then Merlin dies.
3. Forget everything that happens in the last 5-10 minutes of the original miniseries if you expect this movie to mesh with the original.
02/19/09
Though, without the full cast, I'm not sure if it would be worth watching.
02/19/09
I sooooooo didn't hate it.
Which on the internet is the equivalent of a lost weekend with Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz.