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    Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice

    Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series

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    Image of happymisanthrope happymisanthrope
    06/10/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    okay people, i know I'm the only one who wants this but can we all conspire to get Wes Anderson to do a version of "Alice in Wonderland"? It will be twee and weird and will probably feature a lot of slow motion side tracking set to 70's pop songs, but at least it will get everyone out of the gothity-goth-goth setting of Alice that has been dragging it down since, I don't know the video game came out. Besides, it'll look so cool.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    06/09/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    I don't understand why Tin Man was a surprise hit. It seemed to me to be completely terrible in virtually every conceivable respect.
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    Image of KungMcGraw KungMcGraw
    06/09/09

    @braak:


    I totally agree. While I thought most of the casting was spot-on, the whole film had a cheesy look and a yawn-y adapted plot.

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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    06/09/09

    @KungMcGraw: I actually didn't like Deschanel, either. I swear she played that entire movie as though she suffered from mild mental retardation. Every ten seconds she was just gawping and staring blankly at something.
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    Image of Astfgl Astfgl
    06/09/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    Wait, who on Earth actually enjoys Matt Frewer? (For the Canucks out there, he was the WORST part of Psi-Factor: Chronicles of the Paranormal).


    I'll still watch this, though.

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    Image of Plague Plague
    06/09/09

    @Astfgl: Those of us with taste, it seems.
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    Image of bluehinter bluehinter
    06/09/09

    @Astfgl: Ahh Matt Frewer, the Taleggio of the sci-fi kingdom.


    No matter how far his career has slipped since Max Headroom, you can't help but find him deliciously cheesy.

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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    06/09/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    I am of the belief that one can never, ever have too many adaptations of Alice in Wonderland.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    06/09/09

    @Elizabeth Weinbloom: Even the porn ones?
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    Image of AnselHermione AnselHermione
    06/09/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    "made by the same people behind last year's surprise hit Tin Man"

    Ugh. Pass.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    06/09/09

    @AnselHermione: Ditto. That sucked harder than a tornado. The cast sounds good but they'll be stuck in a crappy script.
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    Image of blatanville blatanville
    06/09/09

    In reply to Many Old Friends Fall Through The Looking Glass In New Alice
    yeah, see? I was waiting for the DVD of season 4.5 to find out this kind of stuff. (No) Thanks for the Spoiler Alert!
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    Image of shoelace414 shoelace414
    06/09/09

    @blatanville: A few days to a week after the show you need to put out a spoiler alert, but eventually we like to talk openly about things and not have to worry about people waiting years to see something.


    Oh.. and Darth Vader is Luke's Father.

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    06/09/09

    @shoelace414: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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    Image of Kevin Jones Kevin Jones
    06/09/09

    @crashedpc : ゴキブリ and 蟑螂 division:


    And a very young Anakin Skywalker built C-3PO.

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    06/09/09

    @Kevin Jones: DO NOT WANT!!!!
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    06/09/09

    @crashedpc : ゴキブリ and 蟑螂 division: And the empire will be overthrown by Ewoks!
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    06/09/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: Hahaha, you joke.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    After hearing many negative things about I picked it up with as much of an open mind as I could muster. Really wanted to like it, terribly disappointed.

    Perhaps my expectations were set to high after reading the dystopian industrial treatment of Oz in Tad Williams' Otherlands novels. It was a brief segment in a slightly-better-than-mediocre series of novels but still very evocative.

    Sorry, Tin Man was just painful to watch.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    It's always the same in TV land. Good programs get killed off or mangled through bad development while they keep taking the turds and giving them a spit-shine polish....
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    Image of NorthernWhistle NorthernWhistle
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    Oh man, I really wanted to like Tin Man, but it resisted my efforts. I enjoyed how it was recast in a half-whimsical, half-steampunk mold, but I felt like it never quite developed past the "look! we're being so innovative! Emerald City is a police state! Aunt and Uncle Gale are robots!" mind-set ... and Zooey Deschanel's blank "who me?" face/acting didn't help. But I'm also in the camp that thinks you should have something new to say if you attempt a revision/adaptation (I know that's a hot topic here), and I think I was hoping for more of that since the title character is the Tin Man. Instead it felt like all of the innovation went into the visual trappings and the story ended up as just another isn't-that-girl-so-special! story.


    That said, though, Neal McDonough was one of the best actors on the show, and his character the most interesting, so I'd give this a go. Especially if they bring back Glitch.

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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    02/20/09

    @NorthernWhistle:
    Would it help if they recast Zooey's character with Anna Friel? They look about the same, but Anna can act.
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    Image of CJG CJG
    02/20/09

    @NorthernWhistle: "Oh man, I really wanted to like Tin Man, but it resisted my efforts."


    That's about how I felt.

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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    02/20/09

    @CJG: Yeah. I was also embarrassed to realize that Zooey's character was not supposed to be mildly autistic.
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    Image of BullfightsOnAcid BullfightsOnAcid
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    What do you think Alan Cumming regrets more: doing 'Tin Man' or coming out with his cologne 'Cumming, The Fragrance'?




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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    02/19/09

    @BullfightsOnAcid: I'm pretty sure it's the first one...
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    Image of bluehinter bluehinter
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    What the hell is this crap?


    Tin Man gets picked up, while Lost Room (arguably the best 'Original SciFi Channel production' they've ever come up with) just fades into the ether?

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    Image of BullfightsOnAcid BullfightsOnAcid
    02/19/09

    @bluehinter: 'Lost Room' rocked! Which is probably why the Sci-Fi channel didn't green light it. It was too good.
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    Image of MISS MERCY STREET MISS MERCY STREET
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    Tin Man was terrible. What ever happened the The Lost Room?
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    Image of hadessniper hadessniper
    02/19/09

    @MISS MERCY STREET: I would much rather see a lost room series then a tin man one.
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    Image of Plague Plague
    02/19/09

    @hadessniper:

    INDEED.


    Tin Man was badly acted and badly written tripe.

    I do like the "idea" of it though.

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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    02/19/09

    @hadessniper: That's what I came in here to say. "Lost Room" was cool with awesome sauce, and would have made a much better series.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    02/19/09

    @hadessniper: Yes. THIS.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    02/20/09

    Lost Room was really enjoyable.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    02/20/09

    Therefore, the Sci Fi channel shant never speak of it again.
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    I haven't seen Tin Man, but I really want to; the reviews for it have been split about evenly down the middle, and anyway, I like to form my own opinions of things anyway without going along with the crowd.
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    Image of darkmoonfirelyte darkmoonfirelyte
    02/20/09

    @Smeagol92055:


    They're split about 50/50 because the series was kinda 50/50ish, really. There were a lot of cool concepts (although a few stinker ideas as well), and some good performances (although, much as I like her as an actress, Zooey seemed lost in this role).


    However, the plot was weak, and the pacing was, at times, very off.


    I'm not sure how I feel about it as a series. The original story they tried for felt like it either should have been paired down to one, 2-hour event, or fleshed out to give it more time. Of course, now that story is over, so who know if they could pull off an expanded-universe concept.

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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    02/20/09

    @darkmoonfirelyte:
    She didn't seem lost. She seemed stoned out of her gourd. That seems even more likely if you watch her interview clips from the bonus features.
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    Image of 0kami 0kami
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    It was no 10th Kingdom; that's for sure.
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    Image of tinmiss tinmiss
    02/19/09

    @0kami: 10th Kindgom! Love!


    And really--about the only things that are 10th Kingdom level are the Dune and Children of Dune series (serieses? Serii?).


    Tinman could have been awesome, but IMO just settled for bizarrely endearing.

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    Image of Meredith Woerner Meredith Woerner
    02/19/09

    @tinmiss: I loved the Tenth Kingdom
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    02/20/09

    @tinmiss:
    Dune had craptastic costume designs, and Children of Dune miscast Susan Sarandon as a young lady. Try "Merlin" on for size.
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    Image of happysquid happysquid
    02/20/09

    Merlin! love that movie. Brilliant,esp. Sam Neill, and the soundtrack was gorgeous.
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    02/20/09

    @happysquid:
    Just do yourself a favor and _don't_ watch the sequel, Merlin's Apprentice. It sorta works like an alternate ending to the original miniseries, only with added suck, blow, and more suck thrown in.


    The important details are as follows:


    1. Merlin, who is still pretty young at this point, and still has magic, picks up an apprentice.


    2. Then Merlin dies.


    3. Forget everything that happens in the last 5-10 minutes of the original miniseries if you expect this movie to mesh with the original.

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    Image of Dunny0 Dunny0
    02/19/09

    In reply to Sci Fi Channel Wants To Return To Oz With Tin Man Series
    Oh, I did so love Tin Man, and the miniseries did end so abruptly that it seemed a series was inevitable...


    Though, without the full cast, I'm not sure if it would be worth watching.

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    Image of 92BuickLeSabre 92BuickLeSabre
    02/19/09

    @Dunny0: Thank you for leading off with the love.


    I sooooooo didn't hate it.


    Which on the internet is the equivalent of a lost weekend with Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz.

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