There is no scientific consensus on global warming. "Fire burns", consensus. Man-made global warming (or climate change as you guys are calling it now just in case things get cooler), no consensus.
"Political science" isn't meant to be taken literally.
@cylon_conspiracy: this is the very problem with the concept of the singularity; noise on the grid. How do we teach a computer, or more importantly, how does it teach itself what is the most accurate information? Garbage in, Garbage out. The singularity will lead us to doom if the "final solution" has incorrect data. The main problem of the internet age is that with a million voices screaming nonsense the voices of truth get drowned out. this will only get worse, as our capability to process data increases. data must be interpreted by humans, that is where the promise of the singularity is hollow, it still relies on human judgement, which is fallible. #ecology
If the numbers hold up over the next few weeks it will create an interesting situation. If the viewers come back the networks will feel they can get away with anything. Long hiatuses for cable shows (BSG, Sopranos) will confirm this.
If it tanks on return, what will they think? Unfortunately, I doubt that their egos will allow them to learn. they will either blame unfaithful viewers or a drop off in the shows quality.
I can even see them moving it to another time slot - either to compete with something or as a tent pole which would further confuse the issue. #v
"but I think it's naive to ignore the trend of the past century - or the past 10,000 years."
Oh really, 10,000 whole years? Wow, a species manages to stick around for a few millennia and and it's all set to discover perpetual motion, fairy dust, or whatever fantasy technology it's going to take to bring about his bright, exponentially expanding, no-strings-attached future.
Which is just going off his opening about how the critics of his Kurzweil love letter believe: "that, just as bacteria proliferating in a petri dish will eventually exhaust the resources, we too will hit a limit. I think these skeptics are missing the lessons of history"
What's the lesson? That just because humans haven't yet hit a limit on the finite amount of resources on the planet, that there must not be one?
And then there's this: "Unlike Malthus, we can look around and see that we already have the energy and technology to feed a larger population than exists on Earth today." Yes, I'm sure it's easy to see when you're sitting around in New York, in the United States, and not, say, some country where starvation is a routine occurrence. I'm sure JT can also see how much bigger a population we can feed and also when we'll have to stop the growth of the human population at its current rate, and also how to do this without hurting anybody's feelings. #ecology
Well put CJ. This Tierney dude sounds incredibly naive about problems like poverty, famine, and disease which already exist today--which seems inexcusable for a science columnist for a major newspaper.
Unfortunately this is pretty common--an unwavering faith in progress that denies the reality that nothing in this world comes without consequences. #ecology
@Anekanta - Space Hippy!: A technophile in the most white-bourgeois-consumer sense of the word. The ignorance inherent in his ideas is crippling. The very existence of technology provides salvation? The same way that technology provided the salvation with the IBM indexing computers in Germany? Technology cannot exist in a vacuum of morality or rational guidance. #ecology
Start each episode with Morena Baccarin talking to some minion Visitor and saying "You know, this reminds me of that time we invaded an Earth in a parallel dimension, and I had that long hair and 1980s evil bitch mask" before cutting to the original episode. Then, at the end, cap each episode off with Baccarin laughing and saying "Now, that was a sticky situation!"
I would watch that. Then again, I think you could throw out the actual episode and have Morena Baccarin just talk about anything and I'll watch it. #v
(a) Tierney's neither a skeptic nor overly gullible; he's a contrarian. He's the guy in the audience at Cloverfield rooting for the monster.
(b) As I and every other mathematician keep saying, EXPONENTIAL GROWTH DOES NOT LEAD TO A SINGULARITY. THERE IS NO BLOW-UP IN FINITE TIME UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. THIS IS COVERED IN CALCULUS 2, PEOPLE! #ecology
Funny how you bash Tierney for believing in myths, but then fall for one of the biggest myths about humankind - the Dark Ages.
The Dark Ages were a myth, expounded by Renaissance scholars and those with an axe to grind against the Roman Catholic Church.
Recent excavations and discoveries in Europe and England have revealed the whole idea that humanity dwindled into a technological and social backwater is, in the words on one scholar, pure bollocks.
Watch just one season of Time Team and you'll quickly come to realise the Europeans of that time were far from technologically and socially backwards. #ecology
I watched, it was horrible. It was like they tried to compress a season's worth of shocking revelations into 47 minutes. The Vs are reptiles! The FBI agent's partner is a V! The Black Guy is a V! (but he's a good V!) The FBI Agent's son is going to forge his mom's signature!
Any one of the above revelations would have been good if they had been paced well, like each in the last two minutes of a separate episode, you know, like Lost does. Instead they are all crammed into the first episode. The Vs walk into the UN, and the next scene it's three weeks later? #v
Interesting he should refer to the folks he disagrees with as Cassandras... IIRC, wasn't Cassandra completely correct in everything she prophesized, but cursed so that nobody would listen to a word she said? #ecology
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: My thought exactly. And if I demand nothing else from my Times columnists, it's a proper use of metaphors referencing Hellenic mythology. #ecology
@Fedaykin: haha, well his misuse is the whole head smacking point. he said the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he was trying to, and thus shows the depth of his ineptitude. #ecology
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This seems nice I guess. #startrek
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"Political science" isn't meant to be taken literally.
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If it tanks on return, what will they think? Unfortunately, I doubt that their egos will allow them to learn. they will either blame unfaithful viewers or a drop off in the shows quality.
I can even see them moving it to another time slot - either to compete with something or as a tent pole which would further confuse the issue. #v
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Oh really, 10,000 whole years? Wow, a species manages to stick around for a few millennia and and it's all set to discover perpetual motion, fairy dust, or whatever fantasy technology it's going to take to bring about his bright, exponentially expanding, no-strings-attached future.
Which is just going off his opening about how the critics of his Kurzweil love letter believe: "that, just as bacteria proliferating in a petri dish will eventually exhaust the resources, we too will hit a limit. I think these skeptics are missing the lessons of history"
What's the lesson? That just because humans haven't yet hit a limit on the finite amount of resources on the planet, that there must not be one?
And then there's this: "Unlike Malthus, we can look around and see that we already have the energy and technology to feed a larger population than exists on Earth today." Yes, I'm sure it's easy to see when you're sitting around in New York, in the United States, and not, say, some country where starvation is a routine occurrence. I'm sure JT can also see how much bigger a population we can feed and also when we'll have to stop the growth of the human population at its current rate, and also how to do this without hurting anybody's feelings. #ecology
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Unfortunately this is pretty common--an unwavering faith in progress that denies the reality that nothing in this world comes without consequences. #ecology
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I would watch that. Then again, I think you could throw out the actual episode and have Morena Baccarin just talk about anything and I'll watch it. #v
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@Jesse Astle: If she does with her typical demeanor and elegance, then I would... #v
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(b) As I and every other mathematician keep saying, EXPONENTIAL GROWTH DOES NOT LEAD TO A SINGULARITY. THERE IS NO BLOW-UP IN FINITE TIME UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. THIS IS COVERED IN CALCULUS 2, PEOPLE! #ecology
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The Dark Ages were a myth, expounded by Renaissance scholars and those with an axe to grind against the Roman Catholic Church.
Recent excavations and discoveries in Europe and England have revealed the whole idea that humanity dwindled into a technological and social backwater is, in the words on one scholar, pure bollocks.
Watch just one season of Time Team and you'll quickly come to realise the Europeans of that time were far from technologically and socially backwards. #ecology
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Do I have your permission to use that term? #ecology
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[en.wikipedia.org] #ecology
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Any one of the above revelations would have been good if they had been paced well, like each in the last two minutes of a separate episode, you know, like Lost does. Instead they are all crammed into the first episode. The Vs walk into the UN, and the next scene it's three weeks later? #v
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So the irony here is staggering, and he obviously doesn't realize it. #ecology
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Why wait 20 years for a cast reunion? Bring together the cast to reminiscence about the first four episodes. That should waste an hour. #v
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