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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    07:15 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    If the numbers hold up over the next few weeks it will create an interesting situation. If the viewers come back the networks will feel they can get away with anything. Long hiatuses for cable shows (BSG, Sopranos) will confirm this.

    If it tanks on return, what will they think? Unfortunately, I doubt that their egos will allow them to learn. they will either blame unfaithful viewers or a drop off in the shows quality.

    I can even see them moving it to another time slot - either to compete with something or as a tent pole which would further confuse the issue. #v
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    Image of wanion wanion
    07:13 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    "but I think it's naive to ignore the trend of the past century - or the past 10,000 years."

    Oh really, 10,000 whole years? Wow, a species manages to stick around for a few millennia and and it's all set to discover perpetual motion, fairy dust, or whatever fantasy technology it's going to take to bring about his bright, exponentially expanding, no-strings-attached future.

    Which is just going off his opening about how the critics of his Kurzweil love letter believe: "that, just as bacteria proliferating in a petri dish will eventually exhaust the resources, we too will hit a limit. I think these skeptics are missing the lessons of history"
    What's the lesson? That just because humans haven't yet hit a limit on the finite amount of resources on the planet, that there must not be one?

    And then there's this: "Unlike Malthus, we can look around and see that we already have the energy and technology to feed a larger population than exists on Earth today." Yes, I'm sure it's easy to see when you're sitting around in New York, in the United States, and not, say, some country where starvation is a routine occurrence. I'm sure JT can also see how much bigger a population we can feed and also when we'll have to stop the growth of the human population at its current rate, and also how to do this without hurting anybody's feelings. #ecology
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    Image of Anekanta - Space Hippy! Anekanta - Space Hippy!
    05:36 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    Well put CJ. This Tierney dude sounds incredibly naive about problems like poverty, famine, and disease which already exist today--which seems inexcusable for a science columnist for a major newspaper.

    Unfortunately this is pretty common--an unwavering faith in progress that denies the reality that nothing in this world comes without consequences. #ecology
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    04:42 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    Start each episode with Morena Baccarin talking to some minion Visitor and saying "You know, this reminds me of that time we invaded an Earth in a parallel dimension, and I had that long hair and 1980s evil bitch mask" before cutting to the original episode. Then, at the end, cap each episode off with Baccarin laughing and saying "Now, that was a sticky situation!"

    I would watch that. Then again, I think you could throw out the actual episode and have Morena Baccarin just talk about anything and I'll watch it. #v
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    Image of Jesse Astle Jesse Astle
    06:48 PM

    @Pessimippopotamus: As long as its not about poop. #v
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    09:08 PM

    @TotalFanGirl: If she has her face on, I would be mesmerized.

    @Jesse Astle: If she does with her typical demeanor and elegance, then I would... #v
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    Image of Chuck Chuck
    04:40 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    I surely can't be the first person to suggest that if you run out of V, you just score more from Lafayette, can I? #v
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    Image of DrMathochist DrMathochist
    04:37 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    (a) Tierney's neither a skeptic nor overly gullible; he's a contrarian. He's the guy in the audience at Cloverfield rooting for the monster.

    (b) As I and every other mathematician keep saying, EXPONENTIAL GROWTH DOES NOT LEAD TO A SINGULARITY. THERE IS NO BLOW-UP IN FINITE TIME UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. THIS IS COVERED IN CALCULUS 2, PEOPLE! #ecology
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    Image of FunkyJ FunkyJ
    04:31 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    Funny how you bash Tierney for believing in myths, but then fall for one of the biggest myths about humankind - the Dark Ages.

    The Dark Ages were a myth, expounded by Renaissance scholars and those with an axe to grind against the Roman Catholic Church.

    Recent excavations and discoveries in Europe and England have revealed the whole idea that humanity dwindled into a technological and social backwater is, in the words on one scholar, pure bollocks.

    Watch just one season of Time Team and you'll quickly come to realise the Europeans of that time were far from technologically and socially backwards. #ecology
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    Image of TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle
    04:07 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    Are you kidding? Libertarian Randroids and Transhumanism go together like peanut butter and bacon.
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    Image of The_Sporean_Bob The_Sporean_Bob
    07:38 PM

    @TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle: HAHAHAHA, Randroids!
    Do I have your permission to use that term? #ecology
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    Image of TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle TheGreat&PowerfulTurtle
    08:56 PM

    @The_Sporean_Bob: I wish I could claim it as my invention.

    [en.wikipedia.org] #ecology
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    Image of EBone EBone
    04:03 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    I watched, it was horrible. It was like they tried to compress a season's worth of shocking revelations into 47 minutes. The Vs are reptiles! The FBI agent's partner is a V! The Black Guy is a V! (but he's a good V!) The FBI Agent's son is going to forge his mom's signature!

    Any one of the above revelations would have been good if they had been paced well, like each in the last two minutes of a separate episode, you know, like Lost does. Instead they are all crammed into the first episode. The Vs walk into the UN, and the next scene it's three weeks later? #v
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    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    03:58 PM

    In reply to The New York Times Columnist Who's Helping To Ruin The Future
    Interesting he should refer to the folks he disagrees with as Cassandras... IIRC, wasn't Cassandra completely correct in everything she prophesized, but cursed so that nobody would listen to a word she said? #ecology
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    05:35 PM

    @HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: Exactly. She was 100% correct.

    So the irony here is staggering, and he obviously doesn't realize it. #ecology
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    03:42 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    Your editing suggestions make me think you've gotten some ideas from Jack Donaghy and his success with Seinfield vision.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    03:32 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    Have A Reunion Show

    Why wait 20 years for a cast reunion? Bring together the cast to reminiscence about the first four episodes. That should waste an hour. #v
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    03:27 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    This is hilarious, Graeme. #v
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    Image of snarklenyc snarklenyc
    03:22 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    I think they're pretty doomed. They should have just held off the premiere until February when Lost will probably be dullsville anyway. #v
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    03:07 PM

    In reply to What Happens When ABC Runs Out Of V?
    Am I weird in that I have never seen an episode of Lost? I feel like I am missing out on something. If the main lady from V is a big character on Lost, I can see myself watching, because she is quite attractive (and a good actress).
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    03:11 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: I only saw Lost's first episode, and never got hooked. #v
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    03:21 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: I missed that whole train myself and once I missed the first season I felt I didn't have the time needed to start the whole thing from the beginning, which seems required. #v
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    Image of comics0026 comics0026
    03:28 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: I've never seen an episode of Lost either (ok, I half saw one one time, but I don't count that) and while I have heard people say good things about, I never had the time to pick it up, as I didn't hear big things about it until around the end of the second season. Now the same went for BSG, by the time it hit my radar as being good, it was almost done (I have since updated my radar), so I figured I'd wait until it's done and then streamline the whole thing. But when it did end, I heard the end absolutely sucked and made no sense, so I decided "Damn, no point it watching it if it doesn't have a solid ending". And so I've since decided that given Lost's twists and turns and the fact that nobody knows what's going to happen and that it's almost done, I'm just going to wait for the end, gauge everybody's reaction, and go from there.
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    03:35 PM

    @comics0026: I think I might do the same.

    Interestingly I had ZERO interest in BSG until its second season. I thought they were messing with one of the shows I loved from childhood and I didn't like the idea of making a show like that "modern times", I thought they were just using the name but disrespecting the original.

    But one day for the hell of it I tuned into one of the marathons they were showing on sci-fi and from there, I decided to start watching from scratch.

    But BSG was only four seasons and a short miniseries. LOST is just this huge behemoth. #v
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    Image of bsig bsig
    03:58 PM

    @comics0026: I had zero interest in lost, but still managed to catch half episodes here and there. Thanks to the miracle of streaming netflix and a lack of anything to watch tv im almost all the way caught up. If there is nothing else on TV you want to watch and dont mind getting sucked into a show for 2-3 hours a night it's totally worth it #v
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    Image of Faustroll Faustroll
    04:14 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: Just watch a David lynch movie. it's shorter and makes about as much sense. #v
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    04:22 PM

    @Faustroll: LOL. At least with Lynch I can watch naked women making out. I don't think you can do that on ABC. #v
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    04:39 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: You're perfectly normal. #v
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    05:31 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: I was never interested until it got REALLY popular. Then I saw an episode here and there, but it didn't make any sense. Then, listening to the fans who watch every episode, it seems it doesn't make sense even then, so I never saw the point to seeing more unless you think it's all about to click into place... #v
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    07:52 PM

    @cylon_conspiracy: You owe it to yourself to see Tabula Rasa. Best anything on television ever. #v
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