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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    Dan Simmons used the diary bit in Hyperion with the girl who was ageing backwards. That always creeped me out.

    "See you later alligator."
    "In a while crocodile."
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    Buckaroo Banzai: write it on your palm, lick your palm, slap your mentor on the forehead so he gets a copy too.
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    Gundam is only an acronym in alternative universe of Gundam Seed.

    In fact, I'm not sure of where it comes from in classic Universal Century (UC). In UC Lunar Titanium is renamed to Gundarium alloy after being used to armor the Gundam.

    ok. enough Gundam babbling from me.
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    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    OH GOD TVTROPES

    Thanks io9, for making me fail this semester!!! XD
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    12/07/09

    @techgoddess: Only .002 cents per byte: I freakin love tvtropes. They do such a great job.
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    12/07/09

    @techgoddess: Only .002 cents per byte: Someone linked tvtropes in a comic article last week. It totally OBLITERATED my afternoon.
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    the 'Method of loci' is, and always will be, the coolest way to remember things...
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    12/07/09

    @goldfarb: I've never heard of this method before. I wiki'd it, and I have decided that this method, or close to it, got me through high school and college.

    When taking a test, or writing an essay, or even verbally answering something, I would recall various pages in the text, and remember where on the page I had seen it, I.e: pg. 53, 3rd paragraph, 4th sentence. (Even where I had read the passage originally [library, bedroom, etc.]) After that, I could remember the necessary information (or quote) almost verbatim.
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/07/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: cool...
    sometimes it's called Cathedral Memory...because everyone knew all the different places in a church (nave, apse, altar etc) they could place items to remember is specifics spots...then just walk through their Cathedral to remember things...
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    12/07/09

    @goldfarb: I read a book when I was younger about a mage that recalled spells much like Cathedral memory, except it was a Manor house, with multitudes of rooms. I likened it to a real-life version of that.
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/07/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: and I think Sagan refers to it in Cosmos...
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    Image of firstofnormalin firstofnormalin
    12/07/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me:
    I do somewhat of the same thing when I'm memorizing lines (especially from Shakespeare--I mean, I swear Old Bill sometimes didn't write English...) Anyway, I visualize where the line is on the page and it jogs my memory. I also learn the last line of two of someone else's speech that leads into mine. I'm finding that now I don't need to know that I know the line--the line is there, even if I can't remember it until I need it. Mostly I use something that's close to hypnosis--progressive relaxation then repeat the line in my head. just before I go to sleep.
    BTW, the guy who's credited with the "memory palace" where objects are associated with furniture, etc. was Simonides of Ceo, back in 500BC.
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    Image of Belabras Belabras
    12/07/09

    In reply to How To Jog Your Memory, The Science Fiction Hero Way
    I thought of another one, but I forgot it.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    12/03/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    Where the hell are the flying cars?
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    Image of Vulcan Has No Moon Vulcan Has No Moon
    12/03/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    Christopher Reeve :(

    I will refrain from commenting on those who did their damnedest to ban stem cell research.
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    Image of Kishi Kishi
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    AOL? Even in 2000, it was a laughing stock among my friends, best known for having those free CDs at every register in every store- grab a handful each time you were at the store, and in a few weeks you had enough to decorate a dorm room door!
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    Image of Dimbo_Sama Dimbo_Sama
    12/03/09

    @Kishi: 'Good news everyone, a few years ago I tried logging into AOL... and it just went through!'

    This joke was written in 1999
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    Dunno why this post kinda depresses me :S
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    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    I would to comment about the changes in the past and future but really, I'm still ticked off about not having a jet-pack.
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    12/02/09

    @geesejuggler: According to my mom, who came of age in the 50s and 60s, we were supposed to have flying cars and jetpacks by the magical year 1987.
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    No one foresaw Starbucks pushing instant coffee, in what seems to be a marketing effort completely contrary to their business model.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/02/09

    @Chip Overclock: And Starbucks' stock price collapsed drastically. They change their business model once or twice a year, it seems.
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    I don't know exactly what Kurzweil said about computers in all shapes and sizes, but that was exactly right. The market reports for embedded processors (some of which are as powerful as your laptop's processor) indicate that the sales of those processors far outstrip the sales of microprocessors for PCs, laptops, and servers. Powerful computers are being embedded in virtually everything you own. Some goods, like commercial airliners and even your automobile, has many of them. Microprocessors are in your MP3 player, your wristwatch, every one of your A/V remotes, all your A/V equipment, your alarm clock, your keyfob, your phone (it probably has several, perhaps multiple asymmetric cores on a single chip), etc. etc. etc. The $1000 petaflop deskside system isn't here, yet, but DARPA is real interested in that too.
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    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    SBC Communications: I'd say this one is true. What actually happened is that SBC basically bought AT&T (although some called it a merger), and then used the AT&T brand name. But the core company IMO is still SBC.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    12/02/09

    @Chip Overclock: Exactly. It was called a merger to save face, but SBC bought AT&T for the brand name.

    I am kind of surprised Dryel isn't bigger, though -- being able to dry clean your clothes at home is much less expense and hassle than taking them out.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was starred Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. was unstarred
    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    12/02/09

    In reply to Millennium Predictions That Got Things Right - and Those That Didn't
    "Since then, the vast majority of scientists accept human-influenced global climate change as fact, and dissenters are increasingly laypeople."

    Elitist much? Man. You guys are embarrassing yourselves. And your readers. Let it go. You were wrong. It's ok. You'll find a new cause that makes mankind the most evil force on the planet. Just not global warming. You'll find something to hate, don't worry.

    When Jon Stewart gets involved, you know you're in trouble:

    [www.youtube.com]
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/02/09 3:26 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of artiofab artiofab
    12/02/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: 2:12 in: "Now, does it disprove global warming? No, of course not."

    Oh, wait, are we supposed to skip that part of the video or what?
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    12/02/09

    @artiofab: Well, Jon Stewart can't completely walk away from the party line. He had is cake, then ate it too.

    Why would you skip that part of the video? The point was that if Jon Stewart is reporting on it a couple weeks after the story broke, then it is filtering it's way into the "main stream", and once that happens, it's in trouble. Maybe you thought I was making a different point. I guess from your perspective I could ask, "so what you only watched the end of the video? Are we supposed to skip the whole first portion?"

    Hell the guy that is the main prof. at that university "stepped aside" to allow an "independent review". Whole thing is crumbling.

    Jon Stewart not wanting to completely alienate the non-scientific AGW people has no bearing on that.
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/02/09 4:36 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of Mecharine Mecharine
    12/02/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Listen, Mr Conspiracy theorist. You are not a scientist or an engineer

    I am a scientist AND and engineer.

    Kindly shut the fuck up.
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    12/02/09

    @Mecharine: "scientist and an engineer".

    ..and a total dumbass. This is the web. For all I know you're a prison inmate. Make a point or STFU.
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/02/09 7:47 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of artiofab artiofab
    12/02/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Your point is only valid if you think that the traditional media has been ignoring SwiftHack. [www.nytimes.com] Which they haven't been, they just haven't been giving it as much airtime as, say, Matt Drudge has.

    Question: if the independent review of CRU's data/methods/whatever shows that they didn't cook their books (or whatever it is you are accusing them of doing), will that change your opinion on anything relating to climate science?

    Full disclosure: if the independent review shows they did cook their books... then I'll say their data sucks and be more skeptical about data modeling in general. Then it's you folks' work to discredit the next two places:
    • The National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in Asheville, NC, USA.
    • The Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS), part of the National Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA) in New York.
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    Image of The_Sporean_Bob The_Sporean_Bob
    12/03/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Just out of curiosity, when did Elite become a swear word? Becoming Elite is a good thing! We all strive to be elite in what we do!
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    12/03/09

    @Mecharine:
    "I am a scientist AND and engineer.

    Kindly shut the fuck up "


    If so, you should well know that science isn't based upon "I know what I'm doing, believe my words by faith.". Tour comment is about the most anti-scientific thing you could have said.
    -Kle.
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    Image of Mecharine Mecharine
    12/03/09

    @Klebert L. Hall: You are right. So why do conspiracy theorists do exactly what you said scientists shouldnt be doing?
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    Image of DireWombat DireWombat
    12/03/09

    @Mecharine: This whole hacked emails business is very similar to what would happen if someone found a trove of correspondence between NASA scientists/engineers, much of it mocking Moon Landing Conspiracy Theorists, and a few items suggesting that some NASA employees may have doctored images and data from the Apollo missions to bolster their scientific findings.

    The conspiracy theorists would be ecstatic: "See! They faked it all! This proves it, you all doubted me, but who's the dumb one now!"

    Meanwhile, any rational observer without a preconceived bias would think, "Okay, someone MAY have done some unethical and/or shoddy science, but we don't even know if that invalidates their point. Even if it does, it would make those individuals guilty of a serious scientific fraud, but how does that erase all the other evidence that we went to the moon? And wouldn't it require a vast and unusually tight-lipped conspiracy to completely fabricate something on that scale? These new letters don't make that noticeably more likely."

    The only differences here are that 1) the evidence in this case is all tables of numbers and squiggly lines on graphs and statistical tests, which is harder for non-scientists/statisticians to appreciate the strength of, and 2) that unlike the Moon Landing Conspiracy theory, the Climate Change Conspiracy theory has enormous political and economic interests invested in selling it to the lay public as credible.

    I hadn't realized that this whole thing had reached Moon Landing proportions until recently, but at this point it's not worth engaging actual conspiracy theorists directly... they don't have questions about science, they have absolute faith in the truth of their theories, and you can't argue with that.
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    12/03/09

    @The_Sporean_Bob: Nice try. Elitism means closing yourself off from other ideas because you're in love with your own opinion.. even at the expense of the truth.

    Now you get my "context".
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    12/03/09

    @Mecharine: The emails are real, the scientists lied. That's not a theory. You need to read the news sometime.

    LOL! Al Gore cancels Copenhagen appearance:

    [wattsupwiththat.com]
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/03/09 11:44 AM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of The_Sporean_Bob The_Sporean_Bob
    12/03/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: That's funny, that pretty much just sounds like "Stupid" to me. methinks there is more to your "context"

    At the same time, "Nice Try?" I'm being completely serious, whenever someone says "Elite" these days they're either using it to describe a species of alien or as a wholly contemptible attribute, in my experience.
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    Edited by The_Sporean_Bob at 12/03/09 12:07 PM The_Sporean_Bob was starred The_Sporean_Bob was unstarred
    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    12/03/09

    @The_Sporean_Bob: Yes, "stupid". Good one. My entire identity is about to come crumbling down due to your uncanny ability to penetrate the core of my being, and reduce me to my base element... stupidity. The truth hurts dearly.

    As far as "wholly contemptible attribute", that's pretty on the money. "Context" is the buzz word the AGW people are using to try to make it sound like the lies and deceit in the emails weren't really lies and deceit when you look at it under the appropriate "context", which I'm sure, they are going to try to articulate some day.

    In the mean time, Al Gore canceled his Copenhagen event. GW is over as an issue.
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/03/09 3:16 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of The_Sporean_Bob The_Sporean_Bob
    12/03/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: You know, I wasn't really arguing with you at all, I'm just trying to clear up a point of confusion. You are a very strange and defensive person.
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    Edited by The_Sporean_Bob at 12/03/09 6:45 PM The_Sporean_Bob was starred The_Sporean_Bob was unstarred
    Image of The_Sporean_Bob The_Sporean_Bob
    12/03/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Also, I wasn't calling you stupid, I was saying calling someone "Elitist" sounds about the same as calling them "stupid" by your definition. Sorry that I was not clear.
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    12/04/09

    @Mecharine:
    Because conspiracy theorists don't subscribe to a scientific worldview.

    Scientists really ought to.
    -Kle.
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    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    12/04/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: I... I can't tell if you're being ironic and this is all a big laugh on your part, or you can't tell that you're exactly the type of person being made fun of in that video.

    An aside (not necessarily @cylon_conspiracy):

    I had a roommate in college who was a biology major... who was also a creationist. She honestly believed that the Earth was ~6,000 years old, and that dinosaurs were faked by scientists (kinda like global warming). I asked her, shockingly when I found out, how she could believe that.

    Her answer was that there was one bug, a stink beetle I believe, that she was convinced couldn't come from evolution. Therefore all the other mountains of evidence were a lie, and she clinged to this one book by one biologists somewhere (who mentioned the beetle in question) as proof.

    That kind of how I see climate change deniers. There are mountains of evidence, yet they cling to the very small, fringe sector as their proof. It's frustrating, and I don't get it, but I imagine it's somewhat similar to what people had to go through when evolution was the big science "conspiracy."
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    Image of Mecharine Mecharine
    12/04/09

    @Klebert L. Hall: Er, that is the point. How can two sides discuss a topic if neither is in parity? You're essentially asking two people to talk in two different languages and hoping that the mannerisms are enough to get the point across.

    It may sound difficult to accept, but unless you're fluent in scientific reasoning and mathematics, you will never understand what a scientist or an engineer is telling you.
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    12/04/09

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: Do you ever watch the news? There was a big story about some CRU emails that got leaked. You should look into it. That whole "mountain of evidence" thing is actually, not real. They made it up. You are actually on the creationist side of the argument. :)

    BTW "denier" is a term that traditionally applies to the holocaust. Be wary of cheapening it.

    You guys are going to have to find another insult... holocaust denier, creationist...time for some new material. None of it is actually true, so it doesn't hurt as much as you'd like.

    Rex Murphy on Climategate:

    [www.youtube.com]
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 12/04/09 11:22 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    12/05/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Seriously?

    You don't get that you're being made fun of? For the exact reaction you are having right now? Seriously?

    Well, thanks for the laugh. Especially about claiming "denier" is a term exclusively reserved for the Holocaust. I almost coughed a jalapeno popper out my nose.

    Tell you what, I'll continue this conversation with you, if you can honestly answer 2 questions:

    1) What is the ring data they are talking about?

    2) What is the real data that was added?

    Two very, very simple questions. Let's go from there. If you can answer them, then I will have an honest debate with you about this.
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    Edited by Paul_Is_Drunk at 12/05/09 1:00 AM Paul_Is_Drunk was starred Paul_Is_Drunk was unstarred
    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    12/06/09

    @Mecharine:
    "It may sound difficult to accept, but unless you're fluent in scientific reasoning and mathematics, you will never understand what a scientist or an engineer is telling you."

    Right.
    So, stop screaming at the person who doesn't understand your language. It demeans you. It especially demeans you (and undermines your position) when you argue in a manner anathema to your purported philosophy.
    -Kle.
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    12/06/09

    @Klebert L. Hall: Im not screaming at anyone, unless you're using a machine translator to turn my text to sound.

    I am railing against uninformed extremists who think that they are the authority in science. That is why I mentioned language.

    Language such as "The trick to calculating the forces on an undefined beam is to set one support of the beam to a rolling point and the other to a fixed point, and then traverse through each support until all unknown forces have been calculated"

    If I try to say that to someone who doesn't know what Im talking about, how will they even understand those emails that they're reading?

    In fact, didn't you notice how out of hundreds of emails, only a handful are being touted as vindication for the conspiracy theorists?

    If you are indeed a believer in skepticism, doesn't this evidence point to a systematic failure in determining the importance of these emails?
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    12/07/09

    @Mecharine:
    Look, maybe I can make you understand, but I'm beginning to think that you're just too rigid to grasp anything that isn't immediately obvious to you. Here goes again, though.

    I'm not arguing about the famous ACC e-mails.

    I'm saying that what you are doing here is the equivalent of going down to the bus station and screaming at crazy homeless people. Not much point to that, really, and it makes you look crazy, too.
    -Kle.
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