Why won't ABC put the newest episode of V online? How are they worse than FOX these days? I can watch Fringe not even a day later than it airs (though the episode should still be available online at the same time as it airs (or at least IMMEDIATELY after it ends)).
People only download shows illegally b/c its easier and faster to aquire the content. If ABC, FOX, etc made it easier to get HD content immediately for a nominal fee, people would pay for it. Sure some people would continue to download purely because they don't want to spend money, put these shows are about building a fan base anyway - don't they want people to want to watch?
Shows should be available online for HD streaming within 5 minutes of the shows live airtime debut. Shows should also be for sale on iTunes with an HD download becoming available as soon as the airtime starts. #thegreenhornet
@Nasdaf: The pilot went up online the Saturday after it aired. They are making them available for streaming, just not immediately. Personally I'm not quite invested enough in V yet to care that much. #thegreenhornet
@Blue_Thark: I think ABC missed a bet by not making it a miniseries. I'm old enough to remember the original VIVIDLY, and the fact that it ran over a few nights really upped the impact. #thegreenhornet
As you might have guessed from my previous posts, I'm not a big fan of Whedon. I don't *hate* the guy, I just find his fans kind of... fixated, but as someone who has his own favourites (Go Team Venture!) I shouldn't talk.
Nonetheless, I think that Whedonites need to realize that there are two kinds of fans: Gnostics and Evangelists (if the religious terms offend you, I'm sorry). Evangelists are the kind of fan who try to tell other people about how great what they like is. Gnostics, otoh, regard their favourite thing as a secret that only they can appreciate, using codewords (like "No Power in the 'verse!") that if you don't understand, you're no good.
I think Whedonites are too often Gnostics for his stuff to be mainstream hits. #thegreenhornet
@Wookie1972: I was a total Buffy fan and enjoyed most of the seasons of Angel. But I just could never get into Firefly and all these other Whedon projects post-Buffyverse. I really like Neal Patrick Harris but just couldn't stand Dr. Horrible -- there, I said it, folks.
I find the whole cute/clever/self-awareness style of Whedon's (and his cohorts' -- e.g., Jane Epsenson) writing to have become overbearing, annoying, pretentious, and, worse, outdated in this day and age of live-action entertainment.
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.:
It's not really about Whedon, it's about the way you see fandom. Do you see fandom as the good news you want to share (again, sorry for the religious analogy, but it works for me) or do you see it as a secret society with handshakes and the like? Too many geeks, imho of course, go the "screw them if they don't like it" route, which doesn't exactly keep up the demographics.
But I dunno, I mean I have my own cult faves as well. It's easy to be possessive about them. #thegreenhornet
@Burke: In the first episode, most of the people carried items through the gate and I'd suggest we're to assume they carried rations, ammo, vodka, skittles, etc. There was no time to run back to their quarters for personal items. (Sorry, Aunt Minnie, your mink coats a goner.) #thegreenhornet
@Burke: Sounds like a good plot device for a new episode.
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1. SGU crew realizes that bullets are running low.
2. Scott and Young use the Stargate to go to a planet of lead so they can make new ones.
3. Scott gets lead poisoning and sees vision of priest in molten pit of lead.
4. Meanwhile, Chloe cries because Scott is in danger.
5. Eli comforts her.
6. Rush fabricates a human cannon device and shoves it through the Stargate.
7. Young blasts Scott back through the Stargate with the canon just before Stargate is about to close and Destiny is going to jump to FTL.
8. Chloe stands up, kneeing Eli in the groin as she rushes over to comfort Scott.
9. Eli makes a witty comment.
10. Destiny hits light speed!
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@Scuba Steve: Ah, they should put that into the SGU Visual Companion, portable bullet generator. Proudly assembled in the US of A and made of parts of scavenged Replicator technology. #thegreenhornet
I've enjoyed Dollhouse a lot and am sad to see it go, but reading some of those recaps just makes me feel like the thin line between "complex" and "meandering" has been crossed a few too many times. #thegreenhornet
I don't think that article says Castiel's going to lose his virginity in the Nov. 19 episode - Collins says he's looking forward to Castiel losing his virginity, but that in the Nov. 19 episode he'll be in a drinking contest or whatever. #thegreenhornet
@shoroko: That solidifies Castiel isnt exiting stage left in next week's episode, however, if he is still looking to the future. That, or they planted one heck of a misdirect in TV Guide.
Leaves it between the Harvelle's and Bobby as the two mortally wounded.
Damn, the apocalypse sucks. #thegreenhornet
@Allen_Richards: Sorry :( But it sounds like it's in the realm of possibility, at least.
@spidyredneckjedi: Yep. Unless they pull some "lolz we meant the Impala," it's not looking good. My bet based on last night's promo would be Bobby and Jo. #thegreenhornet
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I actually think that's specifically NOT a great picture of Baccarin, but it just might be due to the extreme close up.
I have to wonder why you would take someone so unbelievably graceful as Summer Glau - a conservatory-level dancer - and hobble her movements with that sling. It's somehow painful to look at. Maybe that's the point I guess, but yuck. #thegreenhornet
I think since Dollhouse is canceled, TPTB should just scrap every episode that has not yet aired so far, and write up a bunch of nutty, absurd Clockwork Orange-y stories that will make people tune in just to see the crazy of a dying show, then package those plus the 13 unaired episodes in a massive Dollhouse DVD boxset.
They should do that for SGU too. That way we can find out later that the SGU people are actually puppets that have been trapped inside a Furling's giant terrarium. #thegreenhornet
@firstanointed: It wouldn't be thirteen unaired episodes, however, it would be more like six or seven.
Still, would be a cool and fun idea to see. Sort of like giving Fox the one finger salute. #thegreenhornet
@spidyredneckjedi: Entertainingly, it's been done before, and Fox was the playground that time, too...
Back in 1990, Fox aired a little dark comedy called "Good Grief" with Howie Mandel and Tom Poston. About mid-way through the initial thirteen episodes, they got word that they were canceled but that the rest of the first thirteen would air (not like Fox had much else at the time), and they went completely nuts with it.
By the time they finished, it was utterly hilarious, and a shame that it was going away..
I remain hopeful that maybe one day a DVD box set of this will show up. #thegreenhornet
"In the mid-season finale, "Justice," a crew member is found dead from a gunshot wound, and the gun is found in Colonel Young's quarters. Young will turn over command to Camille Wray. Meanwhile, Rush gains access to the Ancient interface, and a planet harbors a secret that threatens the Destiny"
I've repeated this whole thing for effect. What a fucking joke this series has become. #thegreenhornet
@Lassus: I kinda like the show but also agree with you; How many times can they "Almost" find a way home/Reapir the ships vital systems? I don't think the idea of the show can last as long as the other stargates. #thegreenhornet
@TheOrtega: I was talking to SOMEONE VERY IMPORTANT last night at the io9 get-together and they shared my opinion that the pilot was very exciting. And everything since has sucked, which is very sad. #thegreenhornet
by the article what I understood is that in the episode of november 19 Castiel will participate of a drinking competition not looses his virginty. #thegreenhornet
@Ingenium: Why he isn't making/creating shows for Syfy is beyond me and all reason, it just doesn't make sense. He must be a glutton for corporate punishment. #thegreenhornet
@Makidian: Er, well, have you seen most of the utter crap on Syfy? I find almost every show on that network utterly cringe-inducing. At some point, you have to figure it's the network that's to blame for that. I'd rather see Whedon on HBO or Showtime, I think. #thegreenhornet
@Makidian: I'm starting to think that Fox executives have compromising pictures of Whedon and they are just using him as their little plaything to satisfy a sadistic bloodlust. #thegreenhornet
@Makidian: I can only imagine that SyFy can't afford him. I really wish he'd go to HBO or ShowTime and really let himself explore the possibilities. #thegreenhornet
@Eridani: I watch most of what's good on Syfy, and hate the rest. So I watch four shows and the rest of the garbage they can keep. The point is that Whedon = Scifi, so it seems like a no brainer to have him developing shows for the Scifi channel. They need to get more shit on that relates to the network and get rid of two nights of wrestling, an entire day of Ghost Hunters, and reruns of crap nobody cares about (Ghost Whisperer wtf!)
Dollhouse on HBO would be the shit and probably give it a whole lot more depth and room than it currently has and really needs. He just needs to be making something for someone other than Fox, and it would be most appropriate if he started with Syfy given his affinity for the genre. Fox only let him make Dollhouse because of the cult following that Firefly ended up with and thought they could do the same thing with Dollhouse. But Dollhouse isn't as good and they put it on Friday night and expect it to do well, give me a fucking break. #thegreenhornet
@pmbaustin: Horseshit, Syfy can afford to hire Joss Whedon for anything. The guy gets results and makes great TV, but too bad he keeps going to Fox. Bad ratings on a network show are decent ratingson a cable show and more people would probably watch him more on Syfy than on Fox. #thegreenhornet
@Makidian: Okay, he's too GOOD for SyFy. SyFy, with few exceptions, seems to pride itself in the making of utter crap. "Ice Tornados" anyone? #thegreenhornet
One would think if the Lizards traveled in FTL starships and backed up by super duper tech (and weapons) that they wouldn't need visas. The paperwork is mightier than the energy weapon. #thegreenhornet
@ManchuCandidate: Talk about a failure in bureaucracy. We make it harder for students to get Visas, but once a hot lizard alien shows up our doorstep we hand them the keys to the castle. #thegreenhornet
@GodofMonkeys: I watch SGU just to complain about how boring it is to my friends over MSN. That makes the show entertaining if just for the glee of ripping on it.
@firstanointed: I've basically quit watching SGU, but I didn't actually mean to. Things come up, and while I (kinda) still like the show, I don't dig it enough to make it a priority. One of these days I'll probably binge the few episodes I've missed via Hulu.
@firstanointed: Same here. I have cable but it's not plugged into my TV. If there's a show I'm really into, I'll plug in the cable. Generally though, I just stream all my shows to my PS3 using a sweet piece of software called PlayOn. That way, I can watch what I want when I want it, and I don't risk that cable-surf addiction I'm prone to. #thegreenhornet
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People only download shows illegally b/c its easier and faster to aquire the content. If ABC, FOX, etc made it easier to get HD content immediately for a nominal fee, people would pay for it. Sure some people would continue to download purely because they don't want to spend money, put these shows are about building a fan base anyway - don't they want people to want to watch?
Shows should be available online for HD streaming within 5 minutes of the shows live airtime debut. Shows should also be for sale on iTunes with an HD download becoming available as soon as the airtime starts. #thegreenhornet
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Nonetheless, I think that Whedonites need to realize that there are two kinds of fans: Gnostics and Evangelists (if the religious terms offend you, I'm sorry). Evangelists are the kind of fan who try to tell other people about how great what they like is. Gnostics, otoh, regard their favourite thing as a secret that only they can appreciate, using codewords (like "No Power in the 'verse!") that if you don't understand, you're no good.
I think Whedonites are too often Gnostics for his stuff to be mainstream hits. #thegreenhornet
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I find the whole cute/clever/self-awareness style of Whedon's (and his cohorts' -- e.g., Jane Epsenson) writing to have become overbearing, annoying, pretentious, and, worse, outdated in this day and age of live-action entertainment.
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It's not really about Whedon, it's about the way you see fandom. Do you see fandom as the good news you want to share (again, sorry for the religious analogy, but it works for me) or do you see it as a secret society with handshakes and the like? Too many geeks, imho of course, go the "screw them if they don't like it" route, which doesn't exactly keep up the demographics.
But I dunno, I mean I have my own cult faves as well. It's easy to be possessive about them. #thegreenhornet
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"We live as though the world were as it should be, to show it what it can be."- Whedon Gospel; Angel 4:1
We're just trying to make the world a better place!!! #thegreenhornet
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How do they not run out of bullets? #thegreenhornet
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Not to mention the enemy-Accuracy-reducer field that seems to be standard issue on the regular team.
"You want me to take point, but you have the accuracy-reducer? At least tell my wife I love her, ok?" #thegreenhornet
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"Bullets"
1. SGU crew realizes that bullets are running low.
2. Scott and Young use the Stargate to go to a planet of lead so they can make new ones.
3. Scott gets lead poisoning and sees vision of priest in molten pit of lead.
4. Meanwhile, Chloe cries because Scott is in danger.
5. Eli comforts her.
6. Rush fabricates a human cannon device and shoves it through the Stargate.
7. Young blasts Scott back through the Stargate with the canon just before Stargate is about to close and Destiny is going to jump to FTL.
8. Chloe stands up, kneeing Eli in the groin as she rushes over to comfort Scott.
9. Eli makes a witty comment.
10. Destiny hits light speed!
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The thought of Cas getting ass just brings a giant grin to my face.... #thegreenhornet
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Leaves it between the Harvelle's and Bobby as the two mortally wounded.
Damn, the apocalypse sucks. #thegreenhornet
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@spidyredneckjedi: Yep. Unless they pull some "lolz we meant the Impala," it's not looking good. My bet based on last night's promo would be Bobby and Jo. #thegreenhornet
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I actually think that's specifically NOT a great picture of Baccarin, but it just might be due to the extreme close up.
I have to wonder why you would take someone so unbelievably graceful as Summer Glau - a conservatory-level dancer - and hobble her movements with that sling. It's somehow painful to look at. Maybe that's the point I guess, but yuck. #thegreenhornet
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They should do that for SGU too. That way we can find out later that the SGU people are actually puppets that have been trapped inside a Furling's giant terrarium. #thegreenhornet
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Still, would be a cool and fun idea to see. Sort of like giving Fox the one finger salute. #thegreenhornet
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Back in 1990, Fox aired a little dark comedy called "Good Grief" with Howie Mandel and Tom Poston. About mid-way through the initial thirteen episodes, they got word that they were canceled but that the rest of the first thirteen would air (not like Fox had much else at the time), and they went completely nuts with it.
By the time they finished, it was utterly hilarious, and a shame that it was going away..
I remain hopeful that maybe one day a DVD box set of this will show up. #thegreenhornet
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I've repeated this whole thing for effect. What a fucking joke this series has become. #thegreenhornet
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Dollhouse on HBO would be the shit and probably give it a whole lot more depth and room than it currently has and really needs. He just needs to be making something for someone other than Fox, and it would be most appropriate if he started with Syfy given his affinity for the genre. Fox only let him make Dollhouse because of the cult following that Firefly ended up with and thought they could do the same thing with Dollhouse. But Dollhouse isn't as good and they put it on Friday night and expect it to do well, give me a fucking break. #thegreenhornet
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True, but it does help expedite the paperwork. #thegreenhornet
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I'm jazzed about more Observer action in "Fringe". The pic makes me think of a "Mad Men"/Observer crossover somehow. Heh. #thegreenhornet
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Loved that you said "jazzed". :D #thegreenhornet
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On a less humorous note, Tom Welling really looks his age in the 4th picture. #thegreenhornet