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Is Thursday The New Friday?
Life On Mars Continues To Get Lost In Ratings
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And don't get me started on bible-girl... where the hell is she? #fringe
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Fringe is aired at the same time as CSI, Supernatural, The Office, and Grey's Anatomy.
I'm not sure exactly how the Neilsens work, but I think that they still count recorded shows if watched within 24 hours. So Bones/FlashForward can make decent ratings there. However, with 5 shows airing in the next timeslot, there's simply no way to watch them all. Many people I know watch at least 3 of those shows.
More to the topic, it's not that Thursday is a bad night for watching shows like Friday is, it's that everything airs on Thursday. #fringe
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Apparently that isn't enough to help the ratings though...
I've stopped watching FlashForward because I realized I dislike all the characters and although the premise was cool they mucked around too much to keep me interested.
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See this is the problem I have too. I'm having to pick and choose which shows I want to watch not really on what channel, but on what website. Mostly because I'll be damned if I miss any show I love, no matter what day its on...
CW's player, however, is DISMAL and I refuse to watch any thing on their website, lest they want me to not have a monitor to watch it on any more after I chuck mine through the wall because their player froze on me for the 20th time when coming back from one of their self promoting commercials.
Basically my thursday nights consist of Bones, then Supernatual, then the Mentalist. Usually I watch Fringe and Heroes on Hulu, on Fridays because I'd rather watch Supernatural on TV rather on the crappy CW player, and because while I'll still watch heroes, its not good enough to cut into my House time.
Tuesdays, Wednesdays however are for the most part a black hole where there's nothing else is really on.. I think they need to start looking into shifting some stuff around and see how that goes before they just end some really good shows..
And.. I haven't even watched FlashFoward at all despite the fact that it SHOULD be something I'd love.. The thing is, all the excessive promotional hype crap we saw leading up to it was enough to turn me off to it.. I like hearing about a show, hearing the premise, and leaving it at that till it premieres.. SPECIALLY if the show is about enigmas wrapped in mysteries.. Fringe was hyped a lot but not nearly to the extent FlashForward was.. I just ended up hating the characters and the plot of FlashForward way before the show even hit the screen. #fringe
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What I want to see on my DVR from Time Warner is an option to either fastforward or to be forced to watch commercials, for a particular program. Why can't my DVR be programed to do that?
Yeah, I know... the horror, the horror. But if it's going to save my show, I'll happily forego my ability to FF, and go back to the old-fashioned way of ignoring commercials... getting my lazy ass off the couch for another beer.
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I know little about the business of advertising or television, but this business of network/ad people getting upset because people don't watch commercials on DVR sounds like bullshit. People have always ignored commercials -- the only time people actually watch them is during the Super Bowl, when they're actually entertaining. DVRs appear to be a scapegoat, an excuse for advertisers to lowball the price of advertising they have to pay to the networks. #fringe
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She clearly changed universes in the elevator, because the screen effect was the same one we've seen as she switches universes.
The season premiere comes back and suddenly she's been tossed out the windshield. Because Olivia was calmly eating in the season finale we know she safely parked her car, regardless of universe. A few episodes go by with no explanation with why the premiere ignores the finale, and then Spock explains he snatched her from her normal reality when she was driving, and momentum must be preserved. Only problem is, she was in the elevator. No explanation, the show just asks that you pretend the events of the finale didn't take place.
That was the point when I decided that there was no way I was going to watch a show where my recollection of events is deeper than the writers staff. Sorry, just can't be done. #fringe
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Basically, after Peter's awesome reveal in the finale, I've decided to trust the writers and go along for the ride. I hope that my trust will not be misplaced. #fringe
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There's no plausible timeline that can be put together where the events of the finale and the events of the premiere both took place.
@Bigdamnhero: I was hoping for said explanation in the first few episodes. The explanation was simply that the finale never took place. It's so glaringly obvious that the only explanation is the writers completely forgot what happened. Fringe simply isn't that strong of a show to keep me on the hook hoping that they're going to explain something they don't even know is wrong.
Fringe is dying because it's poorly written, and not because its on some Thursday death trap. Fox was stupid for lining it up against Grey's Anatomy and CSI in the first place. The best hope for this show is a quick resolution and cancellation at the end of the year before we're all referring to Heroes and Fringe in the same breath. #fringe
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[www.tvguide.com]
" If you go back and watch the season finale, Olivia thought she had a near-miss car crash. The truth is, there was a car crash. She was pulled out of the car [just before the crash] into an alternate universe. Now that she's being put back in, that's what Joel's talking about with the momentum. Her seat belt would have stopped her, but now that she's being put back in the car, she's crashing through the windshield."
In any case, the explanation doesn't appear to be obvious... lots of people, myself included, appear not to be aware of this.
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That's the classic definition of the retcon - Pinkner's explanation is after the fact, cleaning up for their mess. It's sloppy at best, and I choose not to watch a show where the producers can't hire a continuity editor or at least own up to their failures as writers. Judging by the ratings this year, I'm not alone.
ETA: I did read Wyman's explanation that she had already shifted when she was in the elevator, which really only muddies the water even more. If the visual flickering is not the cue she's swapping universes at that very moment, then they need to go back and explain the events of season 1. By trying to cover up their mistake they've just made the show even more convoluted. At the end of the day, I just can't trust that any episode of Fringe won't be totally erased the next week.
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2.putting shows on hiatus then bringing them back
3.FOX never should of moved Fringe and if it is cancelled I am surely going to be cancelling FOX.
I am sick to death opf following TV shows any longer.To many times have I been burned by these greedbag media companies and I am now 53 years old.
Thursday is a bad day for scifis cause folks already were following other bigger genre shows. #fringe
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askfox@fox.com
Happy Ranting! #fringe
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Any other night? Man, I wish it was on Tuesday, with Bones, because that'd be tight. As it stands I have Hulu Fringe half the time. #fringe
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If they'd just put Fringe with House, Bones, or even (bleccch) American Idol, it'd be no problem. But it's FOX. #fringe
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