I suggest cutting the idea down to size, recycle the cantilever section and build a park on the causeway.
I'm a horticulturalist, I would sign up in a heartbeat. During the 1990s I was employed by an industrial historian, doing private research on Bay Area infrastructure from the gold rush to the present and I wrote the following letter promoting this idea to the Berkeley Daily Planet in 2006.... (Please ignore the idea of a "backup bridge.")
9.01.2006
Berkeley Daily Planet
Save the old San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge!
BAY BRIDGE
Editors, Daily Planet:
Now that the bids for the final section of the new eastern span of the Bay Bridge are being considered, perhaps we should start a campaign to preserve the existing eastern span, for logistic as well as historical reasons. It would be a backup bridge in the event the new one is a failure and it would be a nice place to walk or ride bicycles and picnic. Saving the old bridge
would be a nice homage to the builders of the 1930s and a prudent effort perhaps, considering the problems we’ve had building a new one.
The bridge is being replaced is because it's seismically unstable. It's already slated to be torn down. It will not be retrofitted. It will not be any sort of 'community' or park. Adding homes on the bridge would put more weight on it than the cars that cross it now. If it does collapse or fall apart, it would potentially damage the new bridge, too. Because of the proximity of the old bridge to the new bridge, you'd have to be off your nut to want to live on it, anyway. You're essentially living 20 feet from a busy freeway, arguably the busiest bridge in the US if not the world.
Also, as someone else mentioned, that span of bridge is miles long. It's not like some dinky foot bridge in Podunk, France. There would be no western approach to the bridge to get to a 'bicycle community' anyway, you'd have to enter from the Oakland side.
As for the new bridge being ugly, it's not done yet. Give it a chance. The single-point suspension segment will give it the iconic look you all seek. Besides, simple bridges can be just as iconic as elaborate ones. Look at the Coronado bridge in San Diego.
@Boas_MC: I don't know the cost, but I thought the point was that it made more sense to just build a new bridge than try to retrofit the old one. So if it's not even practical to retrofit it to make it safe for cars I don't see how it could make sense to retrofit it to make it safe to live on.
Earthquakes are problem, but my firth thought is, if they're going to turn the top into a park, then where are they going to put the access roads to get furniture and groceries and the like to the homes? all foot/bike communities are all very well, but A) that bridge, I believe, is really long and B) moving a queen sized bed by bike is a pain.
Bridge cities are not a new thing. They were abundant in Paris, France dating more than 1,500 years ago, for example. But i like the idea of a new suburbia between San Francisco and Oakland.
@RosaliaDardanus: I wouldn't exactly give the old span high aesthetic marks either. But I agree they could have made the new span prettier, more iconic, less L.A.-freeway-over-water-ish.
@phoghat: You've actually only read the middle book in a trilogy. "Virtual Light" is the first book, "Idoru" is the second, and the third was "All Tomorrow's Parties."
That's all pretty and stuff, but the old Oakland span of the Bay Bridge is NOT strong enough to withstand a major earthquake (hence the construction of a new and improved span), so how could it be strong enough to support housing and all of what goes with it? Talk about science fiction.
And besides, everyone who lives in the Bay Area knows that (if and) when the new bridge is finished, the old cantilever section will be demolished and not standing strong at all.
@susitucker: Yeah, it's like the artists didn't think at ALL.
Why would millions of dollars be spent on replacing a bridge if there wasn't something wrong with it, some good reason to go to all that trouble? They think municipalities go around doing giant projects just for the hell of it?
And gosh... isn't that the part that partially collapsed once before? Naaaah.
@susitucker:
Well, here's where we're going to make it work. Ya'll see in the book, the shacks and hovels were all cardboard so'd they be very light and all.
09/15/09
I suggest cutting the idea down to size, recycle the cantilever section and build a park on the causeway.
I'm a horticulturalist, I would sign up in a heartbeat. During the 1990s I was employed by an industrial historian, doing private research on Bay Area infrastructure from the gold rush to the present and I wrote the following letter promoting this idea to the Berkeley Daily Planet in 2006.... (Please ignore the idea of a "backup bridge.")
9.01.2006
Berkeley Daily Planet
Save the old San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge!
BAY BRIDGE
Editors, Daily Planet:
Now that the bids for the final section of the new eastern span of the Bay Bridge are being considered, perhaps we should start a campaign to preserve the existing eastern span, for logistic as well as historical reasons. It would be a backup bridge in the event the new one is a failure and it would be a nice place to walk or ride bicycles and picnic. Saving the old bridge
would be a nice homage to the builders of the 1930s and a prudent effort perhaps, considering the problems we’ve had building a new one.
Hank Chapot
09/15/09
Also, as someone else mentioned, that span of bridge is miles long. It's not like some dinky foot bridge in Podunk, France. There would be no western approach to the bridge to get to a 'bicycle community' anyway, you'd have to enter from the Oakland side.
As for the new bridge being ugly, it's not done yet. Give it a chance. The single-point suspension segment will give it the iconic look you all seek. Besides, simple bridges can be just as iconic as elaborate ones. Look at the Coronado bridge in San Diego.
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That being said, of course the seismic issues seem pretty daunting. Does anyone know of a cost estimate for retrofitting the old span?
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Great idea in theory though.
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(YouTube is realy an interpretation on my part, what with the "footage" in Pattern Recognition. But I stand by it.)
Of course, he whiffed on predicting cell phones, but nobody's perfect.
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And besides, everyone who lives in the Bay Area knows that (if and) when the new bridge is finished, the old cantilever section will be demolished and not standing strong at all.
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Why would millions of dollars be spent on replacing a bridge if there wasn't something wrong with it, some good reason to go to all that trouble? They think municipalities go around doing giant projects just for the hell of it?
And gosh... isn't that the part that partially collapsed once before? Naaaah.
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Well, here's where we're going to make it work. Ya'll see in the book, the shacks and hovels were all cardboard so'd they be very light and all.
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Being on the East Coast, I didn't know the reason for the 'makeover '.
inaki(the-rest-of-the-story)zombie certainly introduces one gigantic caveat to what I initially thought was an exciting concept.
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