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    Image of snarklenyc snarklenyc
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    As the viewer's prospective began whooshing past our solar system I think I actually saw the Fonz ski over a shark on Titania. Why V? Why?
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    That promo is hilarious.
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    One thing that would make this show more realistic to me is if the teenage son was riding his bike down the street, then stopped at a red light for a few minutes. He'd look around at the people on the street and stuff, maybe clear his throat, then the light would turn green and he'd go to the next light. They could show the entire journey that he took from home, to the mothership.

    And while he's on this journey, if he's anything like me, he'd be making up nonsense songs to keep himself entertained. "Fucking shit fuck, gonna fuck the V girl, maybe her mom... mAYBE her moommmmm, yeah", then of course there's that next red light coming up.

    That's maybe 35 minutes of screentime, give or take? But at least it's realistic. Actually to make it even more realistic, just get rid of the spaceships. And, the Visitors. I'm not buying that this could happen in real life.

    And did you notice how they never use Mac software, when they are using macs? What am I supposed to think, that right now in NYC there's this whole other OS that I've never even heard of, that's way more polished than Mac OSX? That is fucking insulting.

    On top of that, the V technology... don't even get me started. It just floats there? And it's all in RED? Why, because red is the "evil" color? Yeah I really believe that.

    Oh and one more thing. You mean to tell me, that on some distant planet, a species of life evolved that is the EXACT size, and shape, of the human body, works the same way, is a freaking lizard species nonetheless... yet, all they have to do to blend in is create some synthetic skin that makes them look human? HELLO? This shows how LAZY the writers are.

    So, obviously this show is a huge failure. I hope it bombs.

    But, don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE fan of science fiction, and I definitely want to support the genre, but THIS garbage? Hell to the no.
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 11/25/09 12:45 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of missjulied001 missjulied001
    11/25/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: You left out the part where they're supposedly in NYC but everyone seems to live in Craftsman houses.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    11/25/09

    @cylon_conspiracy: Obviously Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ive are Vs. OS X is actually a derivative of V technology. However, their technology was deemed too advanced for the human brain so it was dumbed down and the final result was Snow Leopard.
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    Image of cylon_conspiracy cylon_conspiracy
    11/25/09

    @missjulied001: I know right? Hello, no one films in NYC anymore, and everyone knows it. Again, lazy writing.
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    11/25/09

    @EdificeComplex: Don't make excuses for the show. The writers were just lazy, the term "hacks" comes to mind.
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    Edited by cylon_conspiracy at 11/25/09 1:24 PM cylon_conspiracy was starred cylon_conspiracy was unstarred
    Image of 0kami 0kami
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    Wow, this might be the first time I have heard Sigur Ros used in a TV show...
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    Okay, Every time I try to watch this show, it's just some boring teenager and his mom, so I turn it off. How am I missing the nekkid chick?
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    Image of bookling bookling
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    Everyone's hating this episode, but I really liked it, especially compared to the lameness that was the last episode. Also, Morena Baccarin is wonderfully lizardy. Did anyone else notice when she said "Skin him" there was a little hiss at the beginning? It was a little creepy.
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    Image of EdificeComplex EdificeComplex
    11/25/09

    @bookling: I really liked it too. And the way she delivered the "skin him" line was creepy.

    I also like that the scale has been ramped up from the original mini-series. The whole invasion fleet seems so much more menacing.
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    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    I wish they would have aired the "skinning". Maybe in the DVD version.
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    Image of firstanointed firstanointed
    11/25/09

    @FrankenPC: Mm. Bad idea. Scenes like that are much more satisfyingly scary precisely because our voyeurism isn't satisfied. It's the Psycho effect. You want more of what you can't have and when it's implied rather than explicitly shown, the mind wonders how frakked up it must've been, making it even MORE scary.

    Plus if they'd shown it, we'd probably get a dose of sub-par ABC special effects which would totally ruin the mystique...
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    Edited by firstanointed at 11/25/09 12:50 PM firstanointed was starred firstanointed was unstarred
    Image of Lassus Lassus
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    This was really really really really boring and shallow in terms of story-telling. What is going on all over the world? It is like the Vs have only invaded the lives of 25 people in New York City. I can get by the points of tlukowski below by just tossing it off as oh, you know, television. That stuff can be annoying, but to me personally it's just nitpicky. But to completely eschew and leave unexplored what's happening elsewhere is so lazy and so disjointed and so boring as writing. And it affected this "finale" which was also pretty boring.

    The writing shows absolutely no nuance whatsoever. I'LL BLOW UP THE WAREHOUSE. MY MOTHER'S NEVER HERE. ARE YOU A PRIEST OR A SOLDIER? I'M PREGNANT. (what, the alien doctors couldn't tell it was a half-alien fetus?) HE TOOK A SUICIDE PILL. I'M THE RESISTANCE'S LOOSE CANNON.

    So as not to be a total hater, things I did like:

    1.) The scene of Anna trying to find and then ultimately making the real guy punish the traitor. Great pascing and outcome. But even THAT's ham-handed. One sentence on why the taking off of the human skin is so awful, or one small reveal of what's underneath. We already KNOW they are lizards, would it have killed them to give us a foot?

    2.) The pull-back to the alien home planet and oncoming invasion force. But I'm a sucker for that anyhow.

    3.) I'm being optimistic that they are setting up something very interesting about how this "bliss" thing actually works, and why, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

    I'll tell you what I WOULD love. It turns out that Anna really IS the good one and the Fifth Column are the evil ones. I'll keep watching, and I'll keep hoping it will get good. I'm skeptical, based on the evidence of these four episodes.
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    Edited by Lassus at 11/25/09 11:02 AM Lassus was starred Lassus was unstarred
    Image of danataf2 danataf2
    11/25/09

    @Lassus: In the real world, people do speak in obvious terms from time to time. "HE TOOK A SUICIDE PILL." - what else would you want him to say? What would be properly nuanced? "H made the ultimate sacrifice" ... "Many V's carry a suicide pill" ... He took a suicide pill is pretty much what someone would say in that situation.
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    Image of tonilost tonilost
    11/25/09

    @danataf2: While the whole premise of the plot is ridiculous, the acting is so good than I'm buying it. Elizabeth Mitchell is really bringing it and so are the rest. ABC wasnt kind to this show by putting it on, then waiting to see how it rated before ordering up the rest of the episodes. Flashforward, in contrast was promoted like it was the next Lost, it isnt andf it sucks.
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    Dr.Quatermass promoted this comment tonilost was starred tonilost was unstarred
    Image of Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake. Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
    11/25/09

    @Lassus: I have been chewing on your post for a bit. I haven't watched a second of the show yet, purely out of circumstance(busy at work.) I loved the old one but I am also terrified that this will be annoyingly bad. So, as a fellow cheese-connoisseur, should I watch it?

    P.S. - Your statement about the fifth column has me reeling from the memories of reading Arthur C. Clarke's Sixth Column the first time. So random.
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    Image of Christopher Grey Christopher Grey
    11/25/09

    @Lassus: Agree 100%, people have been complaining about the condensing of 6 episodes into 4 but all its done imo is help cut out some of the "relationship" ham. Aliens are invading Earth and the majority of the episodes focus on a whinny teen with mother issues and contain overwritten dialogue about things like "Trust No One" and "What are we going to do?!". How about we get on with showing what these people are doing to either expose the V's or round up support. Its times like this when I cry for Threshold, probably one of the greatest canceled shows in Sci-Fi history (yup, right up their near Firefly) where the focus was on what they were doing to counter-act teh problem, not how it was affecting a few peoples personal lives.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Christopher Grey was starred Christopher Grey was unstarred
    Image of Christopher Grey Christopher Grey
    11/25/09

    Double post, my bad.
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    Dr.Quatermass promoted this comment Edited by Christopher Grey at 11/25/09 11:57 AM Christopher Grey was starred Christopher Grey was unstarred
    Image of Lassus Lassus
    11/25/09

    @danataf2: No, that's my bad, I mean the action of taking the pill. It's so standard and lame.
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    11/25/09

    @Dr.Quatermass: Geez, I dunno, all of Dr. Who? Sanctuary, which is very cheesy but in a less insulting manner. There isn't just that much spaceship sci-fi on these days.

    I hate that I'm dumping on the show so hard. There are good things. Maybe I'm expecting too much, I just really want it to be interesting, and it's not.

    Baccarin, however, is utterly hypnotizing, I think she's playing the leader just right.
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    Image of phoghat phoghat
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    "Obviously, ABC thinks this show is iconic enough that they can afford to poke fun of it after only a few episodes, as seen in this Scrubs ad which ran during last night's episode"
    As MST 3000's theme song said"Repeat to yourself it's just a show and just watch it and relax"
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    Image of Tomb: R.O.A.C.H. Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    So we might have two hybrid storylines going on? (One announced and one Anna is planning?)

    ..and I bet that what Tyler saw in the ship will help the resistence later.
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    Image of Ghost_in_the_Machine Ghost_in_the_Machine
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    Personally, I like the pacing of the show but won't mind if it slows down a bit in March (March!? WTF! The Olympics don't start for a while). There is a lot of potential in the show and it could be as good as BSG (yes, I said it).
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    11/25/09

    @Ghost_in_the_Machine: The Olympics don't start til February, but athletes and people have started moving to Vancouver already, and security has been increased in the Vancouver area. I'd imagine trying to film anything right now would be extremely difficult with all the tourists, assuming the city/whoever they need permission from, would even let them.
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    Image of SeeingI SeeingI
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    The brain-dead "current events" plot points are really annoying me. It's like they've taken every Glenn Beck paranoid fantasy - including, last night, the flu vaccine, and showing the black V's fake Hawaiian birth record - and spewed it out, with no commentary or satire...it's not even digested enough to count as allegory. It's just "look at how RELEVANT it is!" posturing.

    Why is this crap taking so loooooong to play out? By the end of the original four-hours of "V," the stakes we SO much higher and the threat was SO much more explicit, at least to those in the know. The characters seemed much more vivid and better-drawn, and with a much larger cast to juggle, too.

    Now here it is four hours into the new "V" and the lead characters don't even know for sure what the Visitors are or what they want, we've had no "watercooler / schoolyard" moment like the rodent-eating or face-ripping, and the Visitors are just left seeming vaguely sinister, but not much more than that. Where's the urgency? Where's the drama? Where are the GUTS?

    Was rather nice that the final image was a callback to the end of the original "V," which showed motherships massed on the dark side of the moon, waiting patiently.

    But...do I care?
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    Image of Ghost_in_the_Machine Ghost_in_the_Machine
    11/25/09

    @SeeingI: It wasn't a Hawaiian birth certificate, it was the city of Hawaiian Gardens ( [hgcity.org] ) in Los Angeles County.
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    11/25/09

    Bliss was seriously lame. I don't know, with a name like Bliss, I don't know what I was expecting, maybe something along the lines of communal telepathic orgasm time or something, not naked yoga coupled with positive reinforcement.

    I have to agree with SeeingI, they're just throwing "current events" to see what it looks like when it hits the wall, and it's just so sad.

    I am amazed at how this show is able to portray urgency while stalling out. Hey, it's gotten farther in 4 episodes then Heroes ever did.
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    Image of SeeingI SeeingI
    11/25/09

    @Ghost_in_the_Machine: Close enough, for people only catching a fleeting glimpse of the word "Hawaiian." The reference is still there.
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    Image of Plague Plague
    11/25/09

    @SeeingI: But... but.. it has potential!
    Nah. It's a fully realized cliched pile of crap.
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    Image of mekki mekki
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    I knew it. Anna is the female version of Jim Morrison.

    I love the idea that she is getting the entire planet as well as her people hooked on The V equivalent of heroin aka Bliss. Just a planet of strung out junkies willing to do anything she asks in order to get their next fix. It's a great new twist from the old series.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    Well, I do like how they made it so that there's dissent among the lizard-people. It's not " THEY ARE ALL EVIL. EVIL LIZARDS FROM EVIL OUTER SPACE BENT ON EVIL." They have different fractions and it's looking like the evil is really just a corrupt administration.
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    Image of Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake. Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
    11/25/09

    @MargaretMoony: Really? I was kinda hoping that they were straight down the line in support of their mission. First of all, it makes more sense that a predatory species would naturally feel this way. Remember, we have self-respect but to them we are just earthbound bags of tastiness, they don't respect us at all. Also, with such an imposing force to fight back, any victory would be a pure victory for Humanity.

    I guess, in short, I just really wanted a show about evil aliens that get beat back by righteous humans. By showing the "two-sides to everything" stance, they make the Vs more human. And that is what they are not...human.

    Keep in mind, this is all in theory and/or all in my head. I have yet to see the show. I am just talking. :)
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/25/09

    @Dr.Quatermass: I'm just not a fan of anything where the "other" is straight up evil. It freaks me out.
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    Image of Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake. Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
    11/25/09

    @MargaretMoony: Exactly. Wouldn't it be nice if the evil aliens trying to erase us were genuinely frightening? If what everyone says is true, and the Vs are somewhat ambiguous, then what is at stake?
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/25/09

    In reply to Do Some Naked Yoga And Let The Lizard Queen Soothe Your Worries
    I wonder if the Skysharks have figured out that during Bliss is the best time to attack.
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