Just wait, with the popularity of (blech) twilight and (blech) true blood, some studio will turn Laurell K. Hamilton's Romance pretending to be F/SF "urban" fantasy potboilers into a movie (blech!).
Aww, c'mon now... I really liked The Fountain! Yes, it was not a major blockbuster, but it was very well done and had a fantastic, unique, complex plot!
Graeme, thank you for point out "a love interest shoehorned in to give the audience a hot girl to gawk at and something to distract the hero from saving the world..." because quite honestly what other purpose does Lois Lane and Rachel Dawes serve?
I am truly sorry if I am offending anyone but i just seems to me that if you truly care about someone, you should have *some faith* in that person. Lois, Rachel Mary Jane Watson, and countless others just don't believe and have to constantly doubt and question at the wrong time. Dude's trying to save the world from an upcoming armageddon. Let this argument rest rest right now. lol
@geesejuggler: Lois is firstly a crack reporter, and serves as something of a scout for Superman's do-gooding. He's not Batman, and thus is not always ahead of the game, so sometimes a little accidental detective work on her behalf is a huge time-saver on his. Also, a recurring theme with Superman is the fact that he's always trying to balance his alien heritage with his human upbringing, and the results tend to be disasterous when he strays too far towards the former. Lois, as a love interest, is a humanizing factor that he desperately needs if he's going to resist becoming the DCU's equivalent of Dr. Manhattan.
Rachel is a bit harder to puzzle out, but it seems that she's been a guiding factor in the development of Nolan's Batman. I think we'll only see the full effects of that now that she's dead, though. In the first movie we saw him demonstrate casual disregard for any potential death and destruction he might cause as he raced to save her life. In the second, we saw his immediate reaction to having failed to safe her life. In the third, I'm sure we'll see him come to grips with that failure (Gyllenhaal is contracted for another movie, after all), and she's not around to directly influence his decisions anymore.
As for any others (and specifically Mary Jane), I don't really care.
Filmmakers seemed to have forgotten that romance is a big part of adventure stories. The fantasy is to kill the bad guy, save the world and get the girl. The last part has been missing from a lot of films of late.
@OW-Holmes: Yeah, but that's okay. They weren't blood relatives, like you'll find in the two examples I listed. It's the idea that the closest your average sci-fi fan will get to having a romantic relationship is his sister or his mother that killed the romantic comedy sci-fi movie genre.
Wall-E a love story? It's all about Wall-E pestering Eve for "hand holding" despite her clear and persistent rebuffs of his advances. Then when she goes into a coma, he takes advantage of her unconscious body. Later, she sees a recording of actions and falls in love with him.
Come to think of it, this is pretty close to the plot of many chick-flicks. So, yea I guess it is a love story.
What about that The Time Traveller's Wife that's out soon (or I'm assuming it will be, how the hell long has that been in production/post-production/whatever it's production status is?)? Haven't read the book, but that sounds like a sci-fi love story.
I'm with David. Where the hell is this movie? One of the best books I've ever read, I have been looking forward to and simultaneously dreading this movie, ever since it was announced.
And speaking of scifi lit with strong love elements; isn't it about time someone get on banging out an adaptation of Mary Doria Russel's The Sparrow? Favorite book of all time and I need to see it on a big screen before I die.
I think the simplest explanation is that the sci-fi aspect turns away the mainstream male audience and the romance aspect turns away the mainstream female audience.
An intelligent sci-fi romance may have a smallish audience, but will never be a success for a studio. (I'm looking at you, The Fountain)
Seems like a better bet for and indie route, like Primer-size.
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The correct term is "VamPorn".
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The Fountain is a wonderful movie.
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I think I'd prefer to put my trust in a street-sweeper loaded with Willy-Pete rounds. That or nuke the site from orbit.
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I am truly sorry if I am offending anyone but i just seems to me that if you truly care about someone, you should have *some faith* in that person. Lois, Rachel Mary Jane Watson, and countless others just don't believe and have to constantly doubt and question at the wrong time. Dude's trying to save the world from an upcoming armageddon. Let this argument rest rest right now. lol
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Lois is firstly a crack reporter, and serves as something of a scout for Superman's do-gooding. He's not Batman, and thus is not always ahead of the game, so sometimes a little accidental detective work on her behalf is a huge time-saver on his. Also, a recurring theme with Superman is the fact that he's always trying to balance his alien heritage with his human upbringing, and the results tend to be disasterous when he strays too far towards the former. Lois, as a love interest, is a humanizing factor that he desperately needs if he's going to resist becoming the DCU's equivalent of Dr. Manhattan.
Rachel is a bit harder to puzzle out, but it seems that she's been a guiding factor in the development of Nolan's Batman. I think we'll only see the full effects of that now that she's dead, though. In the first movie we saw him demonstrate casual disregard for any potential death and destruction he might cause as he raced to save her life. In the second, we saw his immediate reaction to having failed to safe her life. In the third, I'm sure we'll see him come to grips with that failure (Gyllenhaal is contracted for another movie, after all), and she's not around to directly influence his decisions anymore.
As for any others (and specifically Mary Jane), I don't really care.
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"Paul and Chani's love grew."
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1. Luke kissed his sister. On the lips.
2. Marty's mother tried to pull an unwitting reverse-Oedipus on him.
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Isn't that what love is all about?
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Yeah, but that's okay. They weren't blood relatives, like you'll find in the two examples I listed. It's the idea that the closest your average sci-fi fan will get to having a romantic relationship is his sister or his mother that killed the romantic comedy sci-fi movie genre.
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Come to think of it, this is pretty close to the plot of many chick-flicks. So, yea I guess it is a love story.
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I'm with David. Where the hell is this movie? One of the best books I've ever read, I have been looking forward to and simultaneously dreading this movie, ever since it was announced.
And speaking of scifi lit with strong love elements; isn't it about time someone get on banging out an adaptation of Mary Doria Russel's The Sparrow? Favorite book of all time and I need to see it on a big screen before I die.
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An intelligent sci-fi romance may have a smallish audience, but will never be a success for a studio. (I'm looking at you, The Fountain)
Seems like a better bet for and indie route, like Primer-size.
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Even if it isn't true, the studios think it's true, and so don't make them.
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