I'm so excited! The Road is the kind of book where I won't mind if they make changes in adapting it to a movie.
I pretty sure that it wasn't a nuclear disaster in the book, but I'm still going to spend a lot of the movie worrying about their exposure to radiations (No! Don't drink that! It's +10 rads/sec). I blame Fallout 3.
@Traveshamockery: It doesn't really specify in the book. I've always assumed multiple meteor impacts worldwide. It's the explanation that makes the most sense given the available information.
@RandomFrequentFlierDent: Why do you think it wasn't nuclear in the book? It doesn't specify it, but it seems clearly a nuclear-winter scenario (yeah, meteorites would do that as well), and well... they wouldn't talk about radiation because there's nothing they can do about it. Also, It doesn't need to be radioactive everywhere for there to be a nuclear winter, just several big explosions that release enough dust
@Dirk Anger: While reading the book I went back and forth between a nuclean conflict and massive volcanism. On the one hand you had the flashback of the power going out/glow on the horizon, which led me to think of a nuke stike/EMP. On the other, you have the idea that this unnamed cataclysm has wiped out civilization on the entire planet, with massive amounts of ash still blocking the sun and coating things years later.
@WLDaywalker: @Dirk Anger: The glow on the horizon is what made me think it wasn't nuclear - if they were close enough to see a nuclear strike of that size I figured they'd be pretty nuked. That's why I assumed meteor. Super volcano makes sense too.
I guess my reading of it just gave me more of a "man destroyed by nature" vibe. McCarthy's never said what it was - I think we're supposed to be debating it.
@cletar: I'd recommend it. It's a nice story and a fast read. If you like post-apocalypse settings (admittedly I'm a huge fan of the genre) you should enjoy it.
Reading the book was like being stabbed in the heart the entire time. That said I read it in one 10 hour sitting. I'm interested to see how that bleakness translates into a film. My fear is that they are going to pull some of the punches. #theroad
@DisturbingClown: Same here. It was really captivating in a disturbing way, like seeing a horrific car crash and not being able to take your eyes off it. #theroad
This story is depressing? I read the novel--it's exactly the standard end-of-the-world fare, about as realistic as "Mad Max" only a lot more dull.
Depressing? If it was "Daddy flees with son, rapes the kid a couple of times and kills and eats him himself," that might be depressing. It would take a far better writer to make it in any way convincing.
McCarthy's success as a peddler of sadiomasochistic manly man's-man bullshit has me completely bewildered. And his prose styling is crap. #theroad
@RollsRoyceRevenge: Im guessing your comment about the novel being 'unrealistic' is based on your real-world experiences in a post-apocalyptic world?...
I actually had to study this book for a literature class at university last year. (And btw. the prose styling is completely intentional.) The book is not meant to be depressing. Bleak and sad, sure, but to accuse it of being depressing - or failing in that regard - is to completely miss the thrust of the story. The world is ruined and dying. Humanity is probably very close it its expiration date. Faced with an overwhelming sense of the mortality of all things, the father is determined above all else that his son will live whatever life he has knowing what it means to be Human, regardless of the impositions of the remaining world. #theroad
@RollsRoyceRevenge: R3, you've made valuable contributions to a lot of Gawker Media threads, but referring here to the prose styling of Cormac McCarthy -- author of Blood Meridian -- as "crap" offers no insight on McCarthy and instead just reflects poorly on you.
I came to McCarthy late myself, but I couldn't name a contemporary writer in his genre -- "manly man's-man," you called it? -- who beats him, and I'd be surprised if you could either.
@RollsRoyceRevenge: Sounds like you should stick to stuff that doesn't bewilder you - and with more conventional prose. Maybe non-Pulitzer type of stuff. Twilight, perhaps? #theroad
@PontiusPirate: @skahammer: @0RB1TAL: I liked the Road, but what's with all you defenders of McCarthey feeling the need to belittle RollsRoyceRevenge in order to make your point? Yeah, people who don't enjoy McCarthey's work must be Twilight fans. ...Piss off. #theroad
@Benny: Fair enough. Normally I enjoy R3's online contributions, so perhaps I reacted unnecessarily strongly to his momentary resort to what I see as knee-jerk philistinism. There's plenty of that attitude already expressed elsewhere online, mostly by commenters far less perceptive than R3.
Although I would still defend the implication that someone who read Blood Meridian and chose to dismiss it as "sadomasochistic manly-man's man bullshit" was hopelessly insensitive to the power of the English language. #theroad
@PontiusPirate: THE MAN looked out of the tent. THE BOY was already outside, chewing on a piece of bone that used to be a cute puppy dog.
It was cold. The cold was symbolic but it was also real. Witch’s tit, THE MAN thought, symbolically.
"Daddy," said THE BOY. "Did there used to be bright light and hope and laughter?"
THE MAN sighed inwardly and also symbolically. Plus metaphorically.
"Yes, my son," he said. "There used to be those things plus Tastee Freeze and Tucker Max and Wilhelm screams and Pulitizer prizes and middle-brow snobbery bullshit that used reference to pop vampire fiction as the content of weak insults. Now there is only a wasteland."
"It sounds as if the prior world were also symbolically a wasteland," THE BOY said.
"Pretty much," THE MAN said. "Particularly Ohio. Well, pack your shit. We have a long way to walk if we want to avoid the worst fate known to Western civilization."
@skahammer: Perhaps my wording was needlessly acerbic, but I simply can't get into McCarthy. He simply will not stop fiddling with his own words. I am reminded of a quote from Orwell on Dickens: "Rotten architecture but great gargoyles." But McCarthy's gargoyles don't bear close examination, in my opinion.
"The Road" reads as if someone had dared a drunk Raymond Carver to write a TV script for "The Stand", although the result of that would probably have been rather more interesting.
But I have not read Blood Meridian and I have nothing against giving it a try. #theroad
I'm not really sure what all the griping is about. If you read the book and enjoyed it, there isn't a thing in the trailer that isn't in it (though one action-type moment did seem a bit exaggerated for the screen). If you didn't enjoy the book, don't see the movie. If you didn't read the book (and I'm assuming haven't seen the movie,) what on earth can you base your opinion on?
A trailer is a marketing tool and an absolutely terrible way to judge a film. Word of mouth, reviews, and your personal taste for the genre and creators involved are much better ways to decide whether or not you want to see a movie.
When people use trailers and marketing campaigns to decide what movies they wanted to see, the biggest hits end up being... Well, the big blockbusters we have now. The ones everybody pays $12 to see, nobody likes and everyone forgets about two weeks later.
I'll have you know that scream is actually called , "Screams 3; Man, Gut-wrenching Scream And Fall Into Distance". Often confused with the Wilhelm scream. (and that book was amazing...trailer looks like rubbish)
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I pretty sure that it wasn't a nuclear disaster in the book, but I'm still going to spend a lot of the movie worrying about their exposure to radiations (No! Don't drink that! It's +10 rads/sec). I blame Fallout 3.
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I guess my reading of it just gave me more of a "man destroyed by nature" vibe. McCarthy's never said what it was - I think we're supposed to be debating it.
You win this time Cormac.
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I never read the book, by the way. Should I? Should I read the book then see the movie, or vice versa?
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Omigod, I was wrong!
It was earth, all along!
Oh, you finally made a monkey...
out of MEEEEEE!
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"I hate them all,
from Chimpan A
to Chimpan Z!"
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In Hollywood: not many. #theroad
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I kill me #theroad
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Like emo Burma-Shave signs? #theroad
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Depressing? If it was "Daddy flees with son, rapes the kid a couple of times and kills and eats him himself," that might be depressing. It would take a far better writer to make it in any way convincing.
McCarthy's success as a peddler of sadiomasochistic manly man's-man bullshit has me completely bewildered. And his prose styling is crap. #theroad
10/31/09
I actually had to study this book for a literature class at university last year. (And btw. the prose styling is completely intentional.) The book is not meant to be depressing. Bleak and sad, sure, but to accuse it of being depressing - or failing in that regard - is to completely miss the thrust of the story. The world is ruined and dying. Humanity is probably very close it its expiration date. Faced with an overwhelming sense of the mortality of all things, the father is determined above all else that his son will live whatever life he has knowing what it means to be Human, regardless of the impositions of the remaining world. #theroad
11/01/09
I came to McCarthy late myself, but I couldn't name a contemporary writer in his genre -- "manly man's-man," you called it? -- who beats him, and I'd be surprised if you could either.
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Although I would still defend the implication that someone who read Blood Meridian and chose to dismiss it as "sadomasochistic manly-man's man bullshit" was hopelessly insensitive to the power of the English language. #theroad
11/02/09
But yes, I'm belittling R3's contribution. It's a cold, cold world. #theroad
11/02/09
It was cold. The cold was symbolic but it was also real. Witch’s tit, THE MAN thought, symbolically.
"Daddy," said THE BOY. "Did there used to be bright light and hope and laughter?"
THE MAN sighed inwardly and also symbolically. Plus metaphorically.
"Yes, my son," he said. "There used to be those things plus Tastee Freeze and Tucker Max and Wilhelm screams and Pulitizer prizes and middle-brow snobbery bullshit that used reference to pop vampire fiction as the content of weak insults. Now there is only a wasteland."
"It sounds as if the prior world were also symbolically a wasteland," THE BOY said.
"Pretty much," THE MAN said. "Particularly Ohio. Well, pack your shit. We have a long way to walk if we want to avoid the worst fate known to Western civilization."
"What’s that?" THE BOY said.
"Butthex," said THE MAN. #theroad
11/02/09
"The Road" reads as if someone had dared a drunk Raymond Carver to write a TV script for "The Stand", although the result of that would probably have been rather more interesting.
But I have not read Blood Meridian and I have nothing against giving it a try. #theroad
10/30/09
A trailer is a marketing tool and an absolutely terrible way to judge a film. Word of mouth, reviews, and your personal taste for the genre and creators involved are much better ways to decide whether or not you want to see a movie.
When people use trailers and marketing campaigns to decide what movies they wanted to see, the biggest hits end up being... Well, the big blockbusters we have now. The ones everybody pays $12 to see, nobody likes and everyone forgets about two weeks later.
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I'll have you know that scream is actually called , "Screams 3; Man, Gut-wrenching Scream And Fall Into Distance". Often confused with the Wilhelm scream. (and that book was amazing...trailer looks like rubbish)
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Although nice to see my timing has changed. By the time I usually get to watch these links on IO9 they are dead.
This time I watched it, and it became "no longer available" just after I finished.
Well it was funny to me.......... #theroad
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