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    Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven

    If Nothing's A Game, Then Everything Is

    A.I.s Are Still Trapped In The Summer Of Love

    Future Dystopias Where Conservatives Have Won

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    06/08/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    I remember liking Terminal Cafe by Ian McDonald, but it's been a long time since I read it.
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    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    In Hardwired, it's actually the character Reno, not Cowboy, who gets killed while interfaced and whose consciousness lives on in cyberspace.


    His electronic ambush at the end of the book is all kinds of awesome.

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    06/07/09

    @BrandonSweet: Oh, let me fix that!
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    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    No Dollhouse?
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    06/07/09

    @octalass: I've seen every episode of Dollhouse. There's nobody whose brain survives in cyberspace. There are wedges, but that's different.
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    Image of Dominus Astra Dominus Astra
    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    I read a humorous short story by Ted Chiang once, about a man whose digital afterlife was rudely interrupted during his "sexual endurance record tryout" by the managing corporation - his investments in real life had collapsed, leaving him unable to finance his further virtual life. He was given an option: Slowing down the processor speed (unacceptable, he would be out of sync with his still-living relatives); accept true death, or get a job as spam filter, the latter of which he accepted.
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    06/07/09

    @Dominus Astra: I'd love to read that. Got a story name?
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    06/07/09

    @nagumi: Actually, it's not by Ted Chiang, it's by David Langford, and it's linked to in my post... :)
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    Image of Dominus Astra Dominus Astra
    06/07/09

    @nagumi: Sorry, I only remembered that it was in a short story collection, all written by Ted Chiang (who I think is brilliant but underappreciated) I read the one story in the bookstore, so I felt a little guilty and hurried :). Can't remember the title of the book or the title of the story.


    Amazon search reveals that he's got only 1 short story collection, so I think it's this one:

    [www.amazon.com]


    But I can't be sure.


    PS: if not mistaken, that story is the first one in the collection

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    06/07/09

    @Dominus Astra: It's not by Ted Chiang. Your memories are deceiving you.
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    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    Arnold Judas Rimmer --- H

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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    06/07/09

    @HalOfBorg: Yeah I thought about including him... not sure why I didn't. I guess because he's not really in cyberspace, he's just stuck as a hologram.
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    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    Do Richard K. Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs novels count? I mean, nobody really dies unless you destroy their cortical stack, otherwise they just get re-sleeved.
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    06/07/09

    @cljohnston108: Thought about including them, but it seemed like they were more like getting a new body when you die, not uploading per se. Similar to Down And Out In The Magic Kingdom & whatnot.
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    06/07/09

    In reply to Virtual Resurrection: The Dead Who Went To Cyber-Heaven
    Am I the only one waiting for the day when the interweb looks like the one in Lawnmower man?
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    03/31/09

    In reply to If Nothing's A Game, Then Everything Is
    That certainly sounds interesting. Might make a good "Double Feature" with Doctorow's Little Brother.
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    03/31/09

    @Grey_Area: Since I'm just starting Little Brother now, I sure hope so!
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    03/31/09

    In reply to If Nothing's A Game, Then Everything Is
    I consider Williams "Aristoi" to be one of my favorite sci-fi novels. I've liked of a lot of his stuff since reading that one, but nothing else has come close for me.


    This books sounds very interesting, if a little depressingly lose to the real world for my tastes. It sounds from the description a little like some of Gibson's more recent hyper-real urban paranoia works. Did you get that impression, CJ, or is my reading of your review not correct there?

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    03/31/09

    @Lassus: Yeah, I'd say that's a fair reading.
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    Image of lightninglouie lightninglouie
    11/05/08

    In reply to A.I.s Are Still Trapped In The Summer Of Love
    As Bruce Sterling pointed out, the problem is one of metaphors: Computers don't "think" so much as search and sort through information. A computer can no more become "self-aware" than a Rolodex can. Quoth the Bruce: "A tech world that chose to talk about ordinators instead of artificial intelligence probably would have produced Google in about 1980."

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