Mine's a boy. I refer to him as The Monster when I'm talking to the cats (because all vacuum cleaners are The Monster to cats), and otherwise as Pangur Ban.
I would also like to point out that Indigen is wrong, at least if you have hardwood floors. Pangur does a beautiful job cleaning the damn floor.
Heteronormativity: It's not just for carbon-based life anymore. Right around the time Wall-E came out, I heard an interview with the Pixar designers about how deliberately they tried to convey in Wall-E a sense of "maleness"--which in this case was equated with the boxy-shape--versus the ovoid "femininity" of his love interest. Ignoring the ridiculousness of naming the companion "Eve," which is the most deliberate move possible to assure that no one will read Wall-E as anything but a heterosexual love story. Because, really, that would just be beyond the pale.
This, of course, just points us back to Lazy Science Fiction Cliche #203: All sexuality throughout the universe will break down in such a way that there is an easily recognizable (or at least implied) gender dualism whereby aliens/robots/what-have-you's of one "gender" only have sex/relations with aliens/robots/what-have-you's of the opposite "gender." Even the Hutts, for Christ's sake--and they're giant effing space worms!
They go so far on The Next Generation that Riker falls in love with an alien from a genderless/sexless world and the plot of the episode is that said alien wants to have a gender (female, of course, so that Riker wouldn't be space-gay) and becomes an outlaw in order to do so. Whaaaaat?
Notice how much richer sci-fi seems--Farscape comes to mind immediately, though it was great for a lot of other reasons, too--when this sort of assumption isn't made and where more interesting questions about intimacy get asked, above and beyond the recent penchant for tokenized queer characters.
@TomSkylark: There's been the odd tri-gendered race in popular sci-fi, and there was one episode of Enterprise when they go to Risa and Trip/Reed end up almost hooking up with what can only be assumed to have been trannies (one points out some hot alien "ladies" and the other suggests that they might not be ladies at all).
Of course, there was that one episode where it was heavily implied (with a purpose) that Ivanova and Talia had a night to remember (er, well, Ivanova did at least, since Talia's memories went poof with her entire personality not too long after that point). But yeah, male-ien on male-ien relationships are something of a taboo subject, probably due to that genre market being so heavily skewed to hetero males, particularly of the inexperienced variety.
"The question I was left with after the panel is what will happen to all these gendered robots in the future. If robots ever achieve human-level intelligence (or greater) will they want to be gendered, or will they view gender as something human-centric?"
How about gay rights for robots who have had their genders assigned to them but who later decide they'd rather have a different gender?
Seriously, though, I think that if/when robots achieve better-than-human intelligence, they'll look at us as we look at cats and dogs. And then *they* will assign their gender definitions to *us*.
@Roklimber: Those aren't gay robots. They're just transgendered robots. For a clear view of the difference, watch pretty much any episode of Tripping the Rift for "gay robot", and Futurama's "Bend Her" for an example of transgendered Bender.
It all depends on what it sounds like. In the absence of any regular voice, if the vacuum function produces a deep throaty rumble, it's a male Roomba. If it's more high-pitched, then it's female. And that's all there is to it.
This is silly. If a robot earns less than other entities for carrying out the same task it is considered female. Now stop all this pointless speculation and get me another beer.
@whatamidoinghere: The problem is that the neuter gender pronoun in English (it) connotes inanimacy. There is no English pronoun that connotes personhood while leaving gender neutral or unknown.
Granted, robots are technically inanimate (or at least, not persons), but it's harder to interact socially with an inanimate object; hence the need to anthropomorphize our machines.
@Atnakena: Ah. Connotative meaning. The dictionary definition is neither male or female. If people can't learn to deal with objects that aren't male or female and feel forced to stick a label where there shouldn't be one, then humanity has some serious issues with adaptability.
@whatamidoinghere: Naw, just those who speak English as their native tongue. But then again, English is really adaptable in other ways--it almost never encounters a foreign word it can't assimilate, for example. Every language makes trade-offs like this.
@Atnakena: This topic was discussed by the panel and audience shortly after Annalee left for the party rooms. As the conversation moved toward a discussion of sentience it was pointed out that many languages have a neuter pronoun but that pronoun tends to indicate a lower-class status because of that gender neutrality. Gender neutral individuals are considered less-than-human because they don't fit the normative gender roles that we expect.
This makes me think of using the self checkout lines at Albertsons. It's a nice friendly female voice giving you instructions until you go to move a bag of stuff and a loud male voice exclaims, "ITEM REMOVED FROM BAGGING AREA."
@jianna: The MUNI buses in San Francisco have two voices as well. The female voice let's you know you what stops are coming up and her partner orders you not to eat, drink, or smoke on the bus if you know what's good for you.
@jianna: Our grocery store self-checkout is bilingual. If you choose English, you get a female voice but French gets the male one. It's like they're star-crossed lovers divided by a bi-lingual river of words. Sigh.
If you're slow about putting something in the bag she says "Please put the item IN the bag." If you take it out she says "Please put the item BACK in the bag."
Seriously, I'd love to hack the s/w and have it say:
@Julius Seizure. Jim to my Peeps: When you said "star-crossed lovers divided by a bilingual river of words", I immediately imagined a indie run-away romance flick that was basically one long take of a check-out counter having an inner dialogue with itself. We'd see customers cut off at the waist, buying curious things like french bread and coat hangers, be allowed to speculate on body language and clothing choices and the micro-narratives embedded into these ephemeral supporting actors, all the while riveted by the check-out counter's dialogue, and it's stoic, boxy frame.
Lady voice: "Please put the item in the bag."
Man voice: "Cherie, je t'aime."
Lady voice: "Will that be cash or charge."
Man voice: "Merde, mais tu ne m'entende pas!"
Lady voice: "Thank you for shopping at BuyAway! Have a nice day!"
Exit man in a tweed jacket with three pig-tailed daughters.
Enter old lady in fur-lined moccasins and an olive colored toque.
Man voice: "Bienvenue a BuyAway!"
Lady voice: "God you're sexy. I wish you'd take your shirt off."
Will somebody make this movie for me? You can rewrite the script.
05/26/09
Techie things are male, and they act as stubbornly and unpredictably as if they had a Y chromosome and testosterone.
Although one of the cars had a gender that, in human terms, might have been FTM at an early age (before we bought it).
Our VCR's all had Star Wars names, our first TiVo is "Little Mr. TiVo".
Most people I know, their inanimate objects are either neuter or male. Almost nothing female, even Roomba.
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I would also like to point out that Indigen is wrong, at least if you have hardwood floors. Pangur does a beautiful job cleaning the damn floor.
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This, of course, just points us back to Lazy Science Fiction Cliche #203: All sexuality throughout the universe will break down in such a way that there is an easily recognizable (or at least implied) gender dualism whereby aliens/robots/what-have-you's of one "gender" only have sex/relations with aliens/robots/what-have-you's of the opposite "gender." Even the Hutts, for Christ's sake--and they're giant effing space worms!
They go so far on The Next Generation that Riker falls in love with an alien from a genderless/sexless world and the plot of the episode is that said alien wants to have a gender (female, of course, so that Riker wouldn't be space-gay) and becomes an outlaw in order to do so. Whaaaaat?
Notice how much richer sci-fi seems--Farscape comes to mind immediately, though it was great for a lot of other reasons, too--when this sort of assumption isn't made and where more interesting questions about intimacy get asked, above and beyond the recent penchant for tokenized queer characters.
05/24/09
There's been the odd tri-gendered race in popular sci-fi, and there was one episode of Enterprise when they go to Risa and Trip/Reed end up almost hooking up with what can only be assumed to have been trannies (one points out some hot alien "ladies" and the other suggests that they might not be ladies at all).
Of course, there was that one episode where it was heavily implied (with a purpose) that Ivanova and Talia had a night to remember (er, well, Ivanova did at least, since Talia's memories went poof with her entire personality not too long after that point). But yeah, male-ien on male-ien relationships are something of a taboo subject, probably due to that genre market being so heavily skewed to hetero males, particularly of the inexperienced variety.
05/24/09
How about gay rights for robots who have had their genders assigned to them but who later decide they'd rather have a different gender?
Seriously, though, I think that if/when robots achieve better-than-human intelligence, they'll look at us as we look at cats and dogs. And then *they* will assign their gender definitions to *us*.
Here, kitty kitty kitty....
Go fetch, buster! ... Good boy!
05/24/09
Those aren't gay robots. They're just transgendered robots. For a clear view of the difference, watch pretty much any episode of Tripping the Rift for "gay robot", and Futurama's "Bend Her" for an example of transgendered Bender.
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When they make a dish-washing robot, THAT will be female also.
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And, no, it's not to piss off people trying to get pronouns straight.
05/24/09
Granted, robots are technically inanimate (or at least, not persons), but it's harder to interact socially with an inanimate object; hence the need to anthropomorphize our machines.
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Screw you, checkout robot.
05/24/09
He so does not deserve her, the prick.
05/24/09
If you're slow about putting something in the bag she says "Please put the item IN the bag." If you take it out she says "Please put the item BACK in the bag."
Seriously, I'd love to hack the s/w and have it say:
Please put the item IN the bag
Please take the item OUT of the bag
Please put ANOTHER item IN the bag
Please throw the item AT another shopper
Please turn around THREE times and spit.
05/24/09
Lady voice: "Please put the item in the bag."
Man voice: "Cherie, je t'aime."
Lady voice: "Will that be cash or charge."
Man voice: "Merde, mais tu ne m'entende pas!"
Lady voice: "Thank you for shopping at BuyAway! Have a nice day!"
Exit man in a tweed jacket with three pig-tailed daughters.
Enter old lady in fur-lined moccasins and an olive colored toque.
Man voice: "Bienvenue a BuyAway!"
Lady voice: "God you're sexy. I wish you'd take your shirt off."
Will somebody make this movie for me? You can rewrite the script.
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05/25/09
Title.
Dramatic explosion.
Intro
Dramatic explosion.
Dramatic explosion.
Dramatic explosion.
Small explosion.
They meet.
Talk.
More explosions.
Booby-trapped table by a jealous ATM.
Dramatic explosion.
Ridiculous love scene. (An explosion in the background.)
They sit on a beach. The jealous ATM comes in, but explodes far off in the distance from water exposure.
Credits.
Dramatic explosion.
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Never heard of it. ;)
05/21/09
BAYCON!
This weekend, Santa Clara Hyatt Regency. (near Great America)
baycon.org
It's not feminist, but it's fun.
PM me if you're going!
05/21/09
I wish I could be in both places at once! Why does BayCon always have to be at the same time as WisCon? Huh? Huh?
05/21/09
I know there's gonna be feminists at Baycon -- like me -- but that's not the main point of the con.
Also, Baycon does books, movies, TV, anime, music, science...
I think they have a fantasy-steampunk theme this year. Last year it was pirates.
I've been making lists off io9 reviews so I know what books to buy from the dealers instead of Amazon. Gotta support fannish small business.
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