Minor correction: Leslie What's short story collection, Crazy Love, published by Wordcraft of Oregon in a small first edition, was named one of the ten best sf books of 2008 by Booklist. Sorry, I goofed.
Great tips! As much as I personally dislike McDevitt's novels, he keeps getting published (and nominated for Nebulas), so he must know what he's doing.
On another WisCon tack: Cheese & Macaroni Pizza, is it as totally awesome as I suspect?
@Grey_Area: It is totally awesome and insane. Although right now I am full of gelato and other stuff... and the thought of eating mac and cheese pizza is making me ill...
@Grey_Area: I rather enjoyed some of McDevitt's earlier work, but began to find him very tedious. For one thing it seems to me he habitually has his characters take ridulously stupid risks - with the obvious consequences - in order to propel his stories. Seems like a lazy way to tell a story and illuminate a setting. On the other hand I haven't read any of his most recent work.
@Mathmos: As it happens, I'm just about to finish Deepsix, and while I count myself a McDevitt fan, his novels do have some major flaws. I think I like his sci-fi mystery novels best.
It's worth mentioning that he's a really nice, down-to-Earth guy. We once had an interesting email correspondence regarding Abraham Lincoln and the morality of the Civil War.
@Aidan_: Well they are only evil from the perspective of the humans that they rise up against and kill. From the robot's perspective, of course, they are engaging in anti-imperialist insurrection. Damn you, human bastards!
Step 10, as always, is allow them to find/found a religion.
Whether you're the AI in Probe that decides the best way to protect humanity is by sending them all to heaven, the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica who believe in the "one true god" and wage holy war against the unbelievers, The mighty computer Xoanon in Doctor Who who believes it is god, or the androids in Red Dwarf who believe in 'Silicon Heaven' (and can have a massive breakdown if you corrupt their belief circuits), one thing is for certain... robots and religion DO NOT MIX!!!
I think it might be useful to point out that you CAN in fact do all of these things to your robots without worry, provided you DO NOT do the following:
1- independent power supply
2- access to everything all the time (databases etc)
3- guns (hello?!?!?)
so many of these evil robot scenarios could have been avoided with simple common sense...
Common sense dictates we should follow your rules but, in truth, I doubt it will be so neat and clean for us.
We already have military robots with growing levels of autonomy. We already have computers and networks deeply embedded in our economic and safety systems. There are already lots of gaps and overlooked loopholes.
@corpore-metal: true...but these slightly autonomous military robots will always need to refuel...and thats where we have the upper hand...there is no way that our slightly autonomous fuel producing robots will give them fuel without permission from our slightly autonomous computer networks deeply embedded in our economic and safety systems...
And they will be built in slightly autonomous factories, supplied by slightly autonomous trains coming from slightly autonomous mining robots, etc. etc. All this stuff will be so complex that no single human will be expected to manage it all. The human boss--she'll have expert systems and weighted learning systems to give her advice. If something slips her notice, well--she's only human.
Really, in all seriousness, the cat is already out of the bag.
@Mount_Prion: C.U.C.A.R.A.C.H.A.: Which is why I am putting you, Jeff Goldbloom and Will Smith in charge of repelling all alien menaces. You guys have all the great ideas!
@Robotic Bilbo Bagins has no use for fleshy ones: Well for the sake of this exercise I'm using robots and cyborgs interchangeable. Borg and Terminators are cyborgs too. So was Eve and hmmm just about every other robot I reference.
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Minor correction: Leslie What's short story collection, Crazy Love, published by Wordcraft of Oregon in a small first edition, was named one of the ten best sf books of 2008 by Booklist. Sorry, I goofed.
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It's worth mentioning that he's a really nice, down-to-Earth guy. We once had an interesting email correspondence regarding Abraham Lincoln and the morality of the Civil War.
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What exactly is one expected to do when enslaved?
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Whether you're the AI in Probe that decides the best way to protect humanity is by sending them all to heaven, the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica who believe in the "one true god" and wage holy war against the unbelievers, The mighty computer Xoanon in Doctor Who who believes it is god, or the androids in Red Dwarf who believe in 'Silicon Heaven' (and can have a massive breakdown if you corrupt their belief circuits), one thing is for certain... robots and religion DO NOT MIX!!!
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1- independent power supply
2- access to everything all the time (databases etc)
3- guns (hello?!?!?)
so many of these evil robot scenarios could have been avoided with simple common sense...
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0. The means to reproduce.
Common sense dictates we should follow your rules but, in truth, I doubt it will be so neat and clean for us.
We already have military robots with growing levels of autonomy. We already have computers and networks deeply embedded in our economic and safety systems. There are already lots of gaps and overlooked loopholes.
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...oh wait...
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And they will be built in slightly autonomous factories, supplied by slightly autonomous trains coming from slightly autonomous mining robots, etc. etc. All this stuff will be so complex that no single human will be expected to manage it all. The human boss--she'll have expert systems and weighted learning systems to give her advice. If something slips her notice, well--she's only human.
Really, in all seriousness, the cat is already out of the bag.
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hey what?!?!
we have to deal with cats now??
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If the space bugs are allergic to peanuts, you're golden.
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I'm a computer construct formed from the detritus of the internet. Everything goes somewhere. And those spam emails you delete...
Those are me.