I'm not interested in Magneto at all, and I thought that CGI technology for de-aging was horrible and fake. It was like visual Auto-tune! Mr. McKellen just needs OTHER good roles. #xmen
@salthegeek: agreed. I was soooo worried they would try to pick up where that movie left off which would've just been stupid. Of course they botched the Wolverine movie so it wouldn't have been surprising. #xmen
@CodenameV: Seconded. Why would you not make a Magneto movie, when you have that caliber of actors to work with? McKellan and Stewart are some of the best actors you'll find in any genre, stage or screen.
Translation: "They're too old and ugly, so we don't want them in our pic." Screw that. Frakin Hollywood.
@Bigdamnhero: @CodenameV: WHY? What possible story could you tell with Ian McKellan at this stage? You can't de-age a 70 year old to a 20-30 year old, as proven by the godawful Patrick Stewart in Origins. And so you'd end up having him narrating, at best.
And even if that wasn't true, why waste good acting talent on the X-Men equivalent of the Star Wars prequels? #xmen
@deworde: Why does anyone need to be de-aged? I became fans of Stewart and Mckellan while they were old men; I'm not interested in seeing a younger actor reprise the role (I'm not opposed to it, just would prefer the originals).
In the vast archive of stories in the Marvel vault, there must be something to tell. I would like to see two of the finest actors around reprise their X-men roles, before we no longer have them. #xmen
Or instead of a full reboot, the writers could do is use a throw-away line of " The process wasn't completely grafted into his body, so only his face is screwed up."
There are dozens of workarounds for the version of Deadpool we saw in Wolverine (Crank's 'I was dead and got better' leaps to mind) and I'm delighted to hear they're looking at both that and the fourth wall stuff.
Sorry to hear Magneto may be on hold though, that had a lot of potential. Still 'First Class', handled right would fit the Harry Potter story model perfectly. It'll be interesting to see how that turns out. #xmen
i just dont get how you can take wolverine and make it as horrible as they did for the origins movie. you have tons of source material with pictures and thousands of 'experts' on the character. how the fuck do you butcher it that badly? i honestly wont give fox another dime to watch the tattered remains of the xmen universe. #xmen
Oooh, when will io9 post a clip fest from the 1996 Generation X TV Pilot? Considering the technological limitations of the time, that thing was a fairly promising attempt at doing a live action super hero series that remained somewhat loyal to the source material.
The camp factor was priceless, and the replacement of Husk and Chamber with boring stand-ins was unfortunate, but Finola Hughes was spot-on as Emma Frost. Moreover, the whole thing had its own way of coming at a comic book aesthetic in a loving, if cheese-tastic way.
@TomSkylark: Man, I remember being a 10 year old X-Man fanatic who begged to stay up past his bedtime to catch this, cause the idea of a live action X-anything movie seemed unbelievably awesome.
I think the new New Mutants is funny. Marvel grew the characters up and turned the team into X-force with individual personas and responsibilities and costumes. Then the bring back the old team and put everyone in standard uniforms? They make Sam Guthrie somewhat lighthearted after he has been to hell and back. Dacosta is another one that has seen it all and is acting the playboy? I don't get it. I'm not going to go all yay Liefeld but you can't just revert everyone to personalities past. It's called continuity. That being said. I would rather see a New Mutants film that X4.
@Zyg: imagine, a member actually dying, for good. Get ol' Doug Ramsey out there translating and making his life far more difficult that it need to be, then kill him. Put Jack MacBrayer in the role and you have gold i tell you. gold.
@heatstroke: Doug was always my favorite character on the team. Just an average guy who got swept up in something over his head, but he made the best of it. I had no idea he was going to die and remember teh moment I turned the page only to confront his demise.
@Paul_Is_Drunk: Eh, I dunno about that. Until really recently, when writers like Morrison and Whedon realized it was actually a huge problem, good ol' Scotty has been pretty low on the personality scale, which doesn't exactly make for great drama on the big screen. Sure, it's part of why we love the guy in the comics, but it makes him a liability for those new to the X-Men. I'd sure like for someone besides Logan to get the spotlight in the films, but in terms of the movie universe, Scott might be better off blown to smithereens--it's certainly the option I'd choose if the threat of being in another Brett Ratner flick were looming before me.
@Paul_Is_Drunk: Just do a Mr Sinister storyline. The Scott that died wasn't the real Scott--Jean Grey you can easily resurrect, Prof X is alive, Rogue (they will never get Anna Paquin back for that shit) can get her powers back, plus new ones... it's a comic movie, man!
@Paul_Is_Drunk: I think they could pull off an Apocalypse movie, I mean in the first one it was mutants v. mutants. second, mutants v. the government. third, mutants v. society. So they need one where it's everyone united against one common enemy. Who better than apocalypse. Mind you, I think they wouldn't do a good job, I'm just saying that Apocalypse makes sense in a progression sort of a way.
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channeling the rage that is CHARLES BRONSON was starred
channeling the rage that is CHARLES BRONSON was unstarred
So he likes psychologically traumatized and fascinatingly complex characters? And he took Wolverine, pretty much the poster child of such complexity and life trauma in the Marvel Universe (I'd give the overall nod to Batman in DC and all of comic books), and gave us THAT movie? No thank you, Mr. Hood. No thank you.
The only way Magneto will be able to work is if they take a legitimate director who is known more for period drama and treat the movie more like a Holocaust survivor tale that involves elements of the fantastic than an "OMG super powered mutants who are old and were in WWII" movie, which is exactly what Hood would deliver.
Sadly, I don't think Fox is capable of taking such a story seriously enough to justify its existence. I'm not saying another company couldn't, but the movie should not be made by Fox. They simply don't care enough about the characters they have control over, which is sadly very many.
@AldoraGreel: Thinking a little more on the matter, I feel the "Holocaust drama with elements of the fantastic" would be the perfect backdrop for this movie. It could even be the stepping stone for a great culmination of the series as a whole. Follow me on this:
Since the Nazis actually did believe and study the occult it would be fascinating if Magneto was hunted partially for his Jewish heritage but then, once his powers manifested, partially because he was deemed a satanic demon of some sort. Hoping to capture and utilize his "demonic" powers for evil, the Nazis could bring in their personal Doctor and investigator of "the occult" (read: mutant phenomenon), Mr. Sinister.
Sinister could be introduced as a Menghella-type fanatic hoping to create the perfect race (uber-mutants, not Aryans) for his own twisted purposes, not Hitler's. He could serve as the nemesis to Magneto for the film who is later just barely saved from the brink of complete evil from Charles Xavier, but whose impression on Magneto would make his ideals shift between those of Xavier and Sinister, landing in his moral gray area.
Sinister's introduction and experiments on himself (and others) could open the door for his inclusion in the inevitable X4 film. Possibly also opening the door to Apocalypse, who in the movie would be the culmination of Sinister's experiments on mutant kind.
The fourth film could also incorporate Cyclops' history (and return) with Sinister as well as, assuming Angel would be back since he survived X3, Archangel's story arc as a tool of Apocalypse and the Horsemen (maybe bring Gambit in as a Horsemen, too... yes, I know Angel and Gambit were not Horsemen at the same time, but I'd like to see Gambit brought into the fold again somehow... minus the bowler and telekinesis). Sinister could then be revealed to have been the doctor behind the experiments on the mutants in Wolverine Origins (that movie inadvertantly retro-fitting Sinister's obsession with Cyclops into the movie series AND partially explaining Gambit's disappearance at the end of that film, him becoming an early member of the Horsemen).
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I'm not quite sure if its a problem with the movie, or if he's just too awesome for it usually.
I will say that the only reason I purchased Blade: Trinity was Ryan Reynolds. #xmen
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Translation: "They're too old and ugly, so we don't want them in our pic." Screw that. Frakin Hollywood.
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And even if that wasn't true, why waste good acting talent on the X-Men equivalent of the Star Wars prequels? #xmen
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Aaaaaactually. Sir Ian as a homeless old man in San Francisco getting his power back slowly could have a lot of potential. #xmen
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In the vast archive of stories in the Marvel vault, there must be something to tell. I would like to see two of the finest actors around reprise their X-men roles, before we no longer have them. #xmen
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I'm cool with that. #xmen
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Sorry to hear Magneto may be on hold though, that had a lot of potential. Still 'First Class', handled right would fit the Harry Potter story model perfectly. It'll be interesting to see how that turns out. #xmen
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/crickets #xmen
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The camp factor was priceless, and the replacement of Husk and Chamber with boring stand-ins was unfortunate, but Finola Hughes was spot-on as Emma Frost. Moreover, the whole thing had its own way of coming at a comic book aesthetic in a loving, if cheese-tastic way.
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I think I actually enjoyed it quite a bit too.
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Now I hear there's DougLok... wtf?
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It'd basically be X-Men: Wolverine (again) plus some Storm.
I guess you can throw Nightcrawler & Beast in there, but that doesn't quite work.
You really can't do X-Men without Cyclops.
09/22/09
You can do X-Men without Cyclops, only if Storm wasn't Halle Barry. (See, Storm lead the X-Men but Halle is a bad... ah, y'know what? Forget it).
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@Paul_Is_Drunk: Robby Benson just tweeted that they're fitting this guy for an X-Men uni.
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The only way Magneto will be able to work is if they take a legitimate director who is known more for period drama and treat the movie more like a Holocaust survivor tale that involves elements of the fantastic than an "OMG super powered mutants who are old and were in WWII" movie, which is exactly what Hood would deliver.
Sadly, I don't think Fox is capable of taking such a story seriously enough to justify its existence. I'm not saying another company couldn't, but the movie should not be made by Fox. They simply don't care enough about the characters they have control over, which is sadly very many.
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Since the Nazis actually did believe and study the occult it would be fascinating if Magneto was hunted partially for his Jewish heritage but then, once his powers manifested, partially because he was deemed a satanic demon of some sort. Hoping to capture and utilize his "demonic" powers for evil, the Nazis could bring in their personal Doctor and investigator of "the occult" (read: mutant phenomenon), Mr. Sinister.
Sinister could be introduced as a Menghella-type fanatic hoping to create the perfect race (uber-mutants, not Aryans) for his own twisted purposes, not Hitler's. He could serve as the nemesis to Magneto for the film who is later just barely saved from the brink of complete evil from Charles Xavier, but whose impression on Magneto would make his ideals shift between those of Xavier and Sinister, landing in his moral gray area.
Sinister's introduction and experiments on himself (and others) could open the door for his inclusion in the inevitable X4 film. Possibly also opening the door to Apocalypse, who in the movie would be the culmination of Sinister's experiments on mutant kind.
The fourth film could also incorporate Cyclops' history (and return) with Sinister as well as, assuming Angel would be back since he survived X3, Archangel's story arc as a tool of Apocalypse and the Horsemen (maybe bring Gambit in as a Horsemen, too... yes, I know Angel and Gambit were not Horsemen at the same time, but I'd like to see Gambit brought into the fold again somehow... minus the bowler and telekinesis). Sinister could then be revealed to have been the doctor behind the experiments on the mutants in Wolverine Origins (that movie inadvertantly retro-fitting Sinister's obsession with Cyclops into the movie series AND partially explaining Gambit's disappearance at the end of that film, him becoming an early member of the Horsemen).
I'd pay to see 'em.