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    4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix

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    Image of GuardianOfChaos GuardianOfChaos
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    The whole point of the Blackest Night is that it's attacking the issue that death isn't permanent in comics. It's trying to address that issue specifically by making it more public and trying to seal it as a concrete thing. Will it keep? Probably not. It's a good attempt to fix things though. #blackestnight
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    Image of Tomb: R.O.A.C.H. Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    "Even so, calling them Black Lanterns feels like a dodge, because they're dead characters come back to life as undead monsters -"

    As seen in the batman Blackest Night issues.. Thats not the truth.. They are just bodys with living rings on them. #blackestnight
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    Which one is the 3rd picture from? #blackestnight
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    "None Of Them Are Real Zombies"

    So? Isn't this the same website that included the Borg on a list of space zombies even though the Borg are not technically dead? Horror movie zombies aren't real zombies either. Real zombies are thought to be humans under the influence of Voodoo zombie powders. Harvard ethnobotanist Wade Davis claims that they are made from puffer fish poison and datura. #blackestnight
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    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    10/25/09

    @Bill-Lee: The Borg are classic zombies- numerous and unstoppable, usually slow moving with the hive mind substituting for mindlessness. That isn't that big of a difference, as all zombies already want the same thing.
    The Borg are techno-zombies for a futuristic time. They don't consume your brainz, they consume what it represents, your will(z). The inevitable and impending doom represented by the Borg is no less horrifying than that of the classical zombie.

    As far as "real" zombies are concerned, I think real zombies are the ones from Night of the Living Dead, as far as this website and discussion are concerned. #blackestnight
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    Image of BoomingEchoes BoomingEchoes
    10/25/09

    @BlueBeard:

    Mr. Lee is correct in the Puffer Fish/ Voodoo assessment.

    But as far as the Borg are concerned they might be zombies in the shambling hive/mindless sense but they aren't "Zombies" even in the movie sense of the term. They're technologically created based on upon both human and non-organic parts. Basically cyborgs (I have to say, directed at myself, "durrr that's where the names from dufus").

    But, they're cyborgs in the similar sense that Frankenstien's monster is a cyborg, or more accurately Jean Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren were cyborgs in Universal Soldier. Neither example is a zombie, and in both cases they can technically be classified under the wider "undead" title, since their bodies, or body parts, were dead at one time. The Borg however were mostly harvested from the living and in at least 2 cases that we see the process has been reversed, which in the case of movie zombies and cyborgs really can't happen (unless you count one of Universal Soldier's horrible sequels, which had Van Damme more of less free of his cyborg past, but I wouldn't).

    There's some distinct rules that are argued that movie zombies are only the risen dead, and not the now often seen "turned" human. As said in interviews with the people who made and stared in Zombieland, the zombies of that movie aren't zombies either. They're "infected" in the same sense as the victims of the "Rage Virus" are in the 28 series, which the makers also said these aren't zombies at all either, yet they couldn't market the movie as Infectedland. Your mileage may vary on either side of that argument however.

    Overall the Blackest Nights "zombies" are probably better classified under the wider blanket of "The Undead", possibly in the same sense that a vampire is dead yet not, still having self awareness and fine motor functions beyond that of pure instinct. #blackestnight
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    Image of Dimbo_Sama Dimbo_Sama
    10/26/09

    @BlueBeard: 'They don't consume your brainz, they consume what it represents, your will(z).'
    I liked that, it made me lol.

    I would personally argue that the doom presented by the Borg, is worse than that of ye olde Zombie.

    You stop being you, you're seeing things through your own eyes and you don't care, because you no longer have your own thoughts. That sort of concept scares the ever loving christ out of me. At least if you're a zombie you don't care about it because you're dead. #blackestnight
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    BlueBeard promoted this comment Dimbo_Sama was starred Dimbo_Sama was unstarred
    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    10/26/09

    @BoomingEchoes: True, the borg are not reanimated dead, so they do fail that zombie test. All in all, I still think they represent the same kind of fear zombies represent, which is the fear of our own mortality- it comes upon us no matter how hard we fight, no matter how far we run, and it will not stop.

    "Real" zombies are basically drugged indentured servants, sold off or kidnapped to pay debts or simply because somebody didn't like them, so not reanimated dead either.

    @Dimbo_Sama: True, I bet being an actual zombie is slightly better than being a borg because you are dead and gone and it is simply the flesh that has been reanimated. If you are assimilated you are stuck in a permanent living hell, because unless you are as hot as Jeri Ryan, ain't nobody going to de-borg you. #blackestnight
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    Well, it may be a bad idea, but at least nothing is sparkling in the f-ing sunlight in these storylines. #blackestnight
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/25/09

    @schrodingers-katana: Except Dazzler.

    Or to be more apocalyptic. Yet. #blackestnight
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    10/25/09

    @Evdor: That's a good point, especially since Dazzler's sister is in the opposition in the Necrosha storyline. Gee, I wonder with her being back on active duty in the X-Men if there will be some sort of showdown between the two?

    Still a former disco singer who converts sound into a light show (and the occasional laser) is way cooler than Twilight. #blackestnight
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/25/09

    @schrodingers-katana: I don't know, but I'm thinking? Dance-off. #blackestnight
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    Image of schrodingers-katana schrodingers-katana
    10/25/09

    @Evdor: Of course, which opens the door for Necrosha 2: Electric Boogaloo! Those guys at Marvel are geniuses. #blackestnight
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    Image of Moff Moff
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    Did you guys know revenants are now a playable D&D race? WHAT IS THIS SHIT? #blackestnight
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/25/09

    @Moff: Frankly I saw playable Dragon People and decided they jumped the Bulette. #blackestnight
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    I was down on Marvel ZOmbies pretty much from the beginning, because it's so nihilistic.

    But when the zombies managed to overpower Galactus, I gave up on the whole thing. Galactus existed *before the universe*. He's pretty much a God. It would be like River Tam beating the Doctor... wait a minute... #blackestnight
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    Image of RaveX RaveX
    10/25/09

    @Wookie1972:
    oh, snap! #blackestnight
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10/25/09

    @RaveX: Yeah, I hold a grudge... #blackestnight
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    Image of Illogic Illogic
    10/25/09

    @Wookie1972: Yeah, there it went a little overboard. But the later issues with Machine Man are awesome, so maybe skip the "cosmic power Galactus zombies vs. everything" and go straight for those ones? At least check them out I'd say. #blackestnight
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10/25/09

    @Illogic: The whole concept kind of disturbs me... I mean, are we supposed to root for the Marvel Zombies? The only one I can say i really liked was the Army of Darkness one, because, of course, Ash cannot lose. #blackestnight
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    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    10/25/09

    @Wookie1972: In what way could the Doctor defend himself from River tam? Come on! Maybe if Eccleston was still the Doctor, he didn;t take shit from anyone, but Tennant? Smith? Reaver fodder.

    @Illogic: ooh, I love machine man! #blackestnight
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    Image of Platypus Man Platypus Man
    10/25/09

    @Wookie1972: I like Marvel Zombies, partially because they are zombies. And yeah, it is a little ridiculous that they beat Galactus, but once they do, just accept it and go with the flow. I mean, it's not like any of it actually makes sense... #blackestnight
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10/26/09

    @BlueBeard: I can't believe we're still having this argument. Seriously, the Doctor is the frickin' Doctor, last of his race, etc. etc. etc.

    Having her beat Brock Sampson I can chalk up to ignorance of the Venture Bros. But the Batman? Seriously? #blackestnight
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    10/26/09

    @Platypus Man: I guess I'm just amazed by the continued appeal of zombies.. I just find them dark and nihilistic, which I realize is part of their appeal, but Watchmen and Spawn notwithstanding, I think nihilism and superheroes don't mix.

    (And again, any semblance of comic book logic is thrown out the window. Wolverine can regenerate himself from a single cell, but he can't resist the zombie plague? I call bullsh*t) #blackestnight
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    You got your zombies in my comic book superheroes.

    You got your comic book superheroes in my zombies.

    Hmmmmm, two overdone trends that don't go well together...

    I'd rather have superheroes fight 1000 chainsaw wielding maniac inbreds than zombies. Less stupid. #blackestnight
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    #5. Zombie Hulk is the stupidest plot device ever.

    Scratch that. Hulk in the comic books is the worst thing ever. #blackestnight
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    Image of TomSkylark TomSkylark
    10/25/09

    In reply to 4 Reasons Why Zombies And Superheroes Don't Mix
    This is Marvel and DC trying to cash in on a (now very tired) trend. With their insistent focus on crossover events (which equal sales, somehow, no matter how bad) to the detriment of their monthly titles--many of which become incoherent simply due to the never-ending shakeups of big events--Marvel and DC are now even more bald-facedly exposing crossovers as little more than money machines and excuses for their big guns (Bendis, I'm looking at you) to exert more company-wide control than they deserve.

    "Event burnout" doesn't cover my negative feelings about Big 2 comics anymore. #blackestnight
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    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    10/20/09

    In reply to Joss Whedon's X-Men: What We Didn't See, Apparently
    Hulk here. Hulk queer. #xmen
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    Image of MonkeyT MonkeyT
    10/20/09

    @Belabras ate my dingo!: Get used to it. #xmen
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    10/20/09

    In reply to Joss Whedon's X-Men: What We Didn't See, Apparently
    In Union Square?

    Really?

    This oughtta be interesting. #xmen
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    Image of Tomb: R.O.A.C.H. Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
    10/20/09

    In reply to Joss Whedon's X-Men: What We Didn't See, Apparently
    That last scene was kinda creeeeeepy #xmen
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    Image of Brian Fowler Brian Fowler
    10/20/09

    @Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.: Yeah, what the hell is Scott doing there with Emma? He's married! #xmen
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    Pope John Peeps II promoted this comment Brian Fowler was starred Brian Fowler was unstarred
    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/20/09

    @Brian Fowler: Wooo. You should read an Xmen comic made after about 2004. #xmen
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    Image of Brian Fowler Brian Fowler
    10/20/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: I think I'll pass. I liked Scott and Jean together. #xmen
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    Image of Evdor Evdor
    10/20/09

    @Brian Fowler: Jean Grey is dead, and she isn't showing any sign of really coming back this time around. #xmen
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    Image of Brian Fowler Brian Fowler
    10/20/09

    @Evdor: Scott just let her stay dead?

    Why didn't he track down and force Mr. Sinister to cough up on his clones of her?

    Mr. Sinister always has clones of Jean to spare, doesn't he? #xmen
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    Image of ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
    10/20/09

    @Brian Fowler: Mr. Sinister always has spare clones. #xmen
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    10/20/09

    In reply to Joss Whedon's X-Men: What We Didn't See, Apparently
    Does everything get better with Modok? #xmen
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    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    10/20/09

    @OW-Holmes: Bringer of Fear:
    all signs point to yes. #xmen
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    Image of dnwilliams dnwilliams
    10/20/09

    @OW-Holmes: Bringer of Fear:

    of course
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    Image of AshThePirate AshThePirate
    10/20/09

    In reply to Joss Whedon's X-Men: What We Didn't See, Apparently
    I'd rather see Robot Chicken do a take on Astonishing than some lame ass motion comic (which is short for "we're too cheap to animate the whole thing") #xmen
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