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    Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    09/24/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    Nader's always been about making people do things because "he knows better than them". Same old, same old.
    -Kle.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    I'm not a big Ralph Nader fan, but this actually sounds kind of intriguing.
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    09/22/09

    @Pegritz: Yeah, if only because it sounds a little insane, or very insane. It depends on whether it is written half-seriously, or completely serious. Half-serious, it could go either way. Completely serious... it's comedy gold. Like Dr. Bronners All-in-one soap.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    It's just as fantastical as the idea of somebody like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne becoming a selfless hero.

    Nothing would thrill me more than to have the power of the wealthy elite on our side. But i think i have a better chance of pulling myself inside-out first.
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    09/22/09

    @Aidan_: To be fair though, both guys suffered horrendous trauma which inspired their altruism

    Also the Waynes were philanthropic saints to begin with and made sure to instill their philosophy and virtues into their son from the very beginning.

    Tony Stark is usually shown as a privileged asshole playboy stereotype + genius before his kidnapping, torture, and interaction with war victims (and sometimes afterwards too).
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    Image of Franklin Harris Franklin Harris
    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    It's the anti-"Atlas Shrugged." I bet that prude Nader didn't even put in any sex scenes.
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    Image of WLDaywalker WLDaywalker
    09/22/09

    @Franklin Harris: I was just reading the Chronicle's description of the novel and thinking "Ralph Nader is like a bizzaro Ayn Rand."

    Maybe all the characters munch on baby carrots instead of constantly lighting up cigarettes.
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    09/22/09

    @Franklin Harris: Sounds like it's a good thing, then.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    Nader's completely lost his marbles. It's sad to watch someone clinging to sanity by his fingernails.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    Wow. I didn't know Ralph Nader felt the need to write Mary Sue fanfic.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    Um, not to diss the guy who got seat belts into all our cars, but this seems to fall into the sort of undemocratic individual-hero-worship that allows any number of demagogues to arise while most of us just passively follow along behind. And "they stage demonstrations for the environment and better wages" just sounds like an Astroturf movement, but for, rather than against, normal folk. I dunno - it just seems politically rather confused and confusing. Not that clarity's always such a great thing, but in this case I don't know that it really serves a good purpose in the end.
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    09/22/09

    @Boas_MC:

    Ummmm . . . I'm pretty sure this should be considered satire. I hardly think Nader really believes that the rich will/should save the world.

    Doesn't really line up with what I see as his life's work and worldview.
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    09/22/09

    @sidestepper: I'm actually not totally sure about that. I do feel like his politics, at least in terms of who/what actually drives change, can sometimes be rather confused. So I don't think he'd actually complain if a bunch of super-rich folk simply got together and conspired to "make the world better". Of course, I'm basing all of this on a rather brief description of the book, and I agree it sounds like satire, but it still sounds like it might have a counterproductive message, democracy-wise.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    Spoiler Alert!
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Did Ralph Nader Write The Weirdest Science Fiction Story Of The Year?
    "Does she resemble a tiny dragon?"
    Oh Yoko.
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    09/22/09

    @0kami: Yeah, that's my favorite quote in ages.
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    09/22/09

    @Charlie Jane Anders: Yoko Ono and Bjork need to team-up and fight crime*

    *Patent Pending
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    09/22/09

    @goldfarb: As long as they get someone else to do the soundtrack...
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    Image of Anekanta - Go Play! Anekanta - Go Play!
    09/22/09

    @goldfarb: Golden--absolutely golden!
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