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    Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde

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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/20/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    i am intrigued. Neil Gaiman wrote a short story, i think its in smoke and mirrors, where people take a drug recreationally that allows them to change sex for an amount of time. Surrogates reminded me of it too.
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    Image of CognitiveSystems CognitiveSystems
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    So basically they're taking the premise of Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde, the Tim Daly comedic romp from the early 90s, and setting it in high school? Score.
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    Image of Counterglow Counterglow
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Jack or Jill went up the hill/To bang the farmer's daughter/But at the crest s-he failed the test,/Changed sex and never got her.
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    gorehound promoted this comment Edited by Counterglow at 11/19/09 1:27 PM Counterglow was starred Counterglow was unstarred
    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/19/09

    @Counterglow: hey man they still got it on.they just did the same sex thing
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    Image of firstanointed firstanointed
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Wait a minute--so instead of having a "visitor" for a few days each month, she turns into a boy!?

    Because that's what it sounds like.
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    Image of Hahaue Hahaue
    11/19/09

    @firstanointed: I would welcome a short sex change over a period any day.
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    Image of Mike White Mike White
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    And she rides a bicycle? I love it!
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    Image of edosan edosan
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Okay, here's my pitch:

    A mummy turns into a ninja on alternate weekends and falls in love with a mopey high school girl.

    MOVIE DEAL, PLEASE!
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    Image of Darklighter Darklighter
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    So, Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde in reverse and in high school?
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    Image of panrandom panrandom
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Ranma 1/2 FTW!
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    Image of d_r_e d_r_e
    11/19/09

    @panrandom: I was about to comment that this sounds somewhat like Ranma ½. Nice to see someone beat me to the punch!
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    Image of fuchikoma fuchikoma
    11/19/09

    @d_r_e: I was also thinking of the lesser-known Futaba-kun Change, but they don't change minds in either one...
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    That looks like it could be either a fun kids movie or an interesting exploration of the differences of perception between boys and girls. Or they cold fail miserably and make it just another Sandra Bullock movie.
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    Image of jabber jabber
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Errr....this story has been done almost 40 years ago.
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    Plague promoted this comment Edited by jabber at 11/19/09 10:31 AM jabber was starred jabber was unstarred
    Image of Plague Plague
    11/19/09

    @jabber: and most likely better as well.
    You can't beat Ralph Bates.
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    Image of AngryEddy AngryEddy
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Jack and Jill...

    ...who says creativity is dead?
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    11/19/09

    @AngryEddy: you just wait until the reveal what jack decided to do after escaping from the bedroom one day (spoiler: it involves hills).
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    Is this where i start the debate about the equality of the sexes not really being about equality at all ?

    I haven't read the book(s) so really cant comment on them but turning into a boy 4 days out of a month really doesn't seem like that big a hardship.
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    Dunny0 promoted this comment Jassen was starred Jassen was unstarred
    Image of Dunny0 Dunny0
    11/19/09

    @Jassen: The hardship would be your friends and family freaking out over you not being "you" anymore...

    Can you imagine going to high school, only for four days each month you're in a body of the opposite sex, with all the urges (and social stigma) that follow?
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/19/09

    @Dunny0: My primary problem is that it is showing gender identity as a disease.

    Something that affects your body and mind in a way that makes it easy to see what has happened and as such society can simply point and say "oh, you have a disease, it's an odd one but a disease that you cant control" and the next thought after that is "and we can help you find a cure" .

    To my mind that has nothing to do with gender identity issues, most people who associate as the opposite gender to what they are born with, either full or part time do not think they have a disease and should never be treated as though they do.

    How does a story about someone who changes gender for 4 days out of every month help someone who doesn't have the ability to change deal with their own gender identity issues ?
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    11/19/09

    @Jassen: "How does a story about someone who changes gender for 4 days out of every month help someone who doesn't have the ability to change deal with their own gender identity issues ?"

    why should this story (which frankly sounds kinda dumb) help anyone? this isn't a PSA about gender issues...it's a work of fiction intended primarily for profit and entertainment...
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/19/09

    @goldfarb: I was just basing that on the last paragraph of Lauren's article:

    "After the eroticized chastity of the Twilight films, Cylcer could bring us a young adult-targeted film that frankly explores sex and sexuality, not to mention a host of gender issues."
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    11/19/09

    @Jassen: ah...well that's just silly - we wont be getting any of that even if we wanted it! :)
    the phrase "young adult-targeted film that frankly explores sex and sexuality" doesn't exist in Hollywood.
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/19/09

    @goldfarb: I know, it was a little wishful thinking.
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/19/09

    @Jassen:
    Yeah, wait til she tries to get married. Or pregnant.
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    Image of Jassen Jassen
    11/19/09

    @Purple Dave: We have to make a few assumptions here:

    In regards to getting married, if the partner isn't accepting it wont happen and considering that most people can find a partner who is accepting of their idiosyncrasies i should imagine she would be no different.

    In regards to pregnancy i would assume that as her normal menstrual cycle is broken by becoming male 4 days of every month that she would not be able to become pregnant or that the cycle of becoming male would be broken by a hormonal trigger of becoming pregnant.

    So as far as i can see marriage is no different to that of someone who identifies with a gender other than what they are born with but doesn't change every month and it is the same with pregnancy, if a man identifies as a woman there is currently nothing that can be done medically to allow that person to carry a child.

    It is still a story about someone who has something wrong with them that causes them to change and because of that they will be treated as diseased.
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    Image of 0kami 0kami
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    I just came back from my transgender studies class, so this is a very welcome surprise : )
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    Image of IraeNicole IraeNicole
    11/19/09

    @0kami: ooh a trans studies class? Where do you go and why am I not there?
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    Image of 0kami 0kami
    11/19/09

    @IraeNicole: Hampshire college :)

    #calendar
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    Image of IraeNicole IraeNicole
    11/19/09

    @0kami: Hope it isn't made of fail!
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    Image of 0kami 0kami
    11/19/09

    @IraeNicole: NOT AT ALL. I transferred there actually and it's made of win....and a lot of pot...

    #calendar
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    Image of Daveinva Daveinva
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    "Four days each month, Jill transforms. But instead of becoming a werewolf, she becomes a boy, with all that entails."

    Believe me, those four days of the month, I'd rather a woman turn into a werewolf than what normally happens.
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    Image of Plague Plague
    11/19/09

    @Daveinva: NO YOU DINNIT!
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    11/19/09

    @Daveinva: I think I've read some NSFW stories that went along those lines...
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    11/19/09

    @Daveinva: Oh come on it's not that bad! You just have to be really really really careful with what you say, the order of the words that you use, and of course, the *tone* of the words that you say.

    Now that I put this into words, I realize that you need to be more of a diplomat during that time.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/19/09

    @Daveinva: I've actually read some pretty good stories that link menstruation with werewolfness.
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    Image of hamshank hamshank
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cycler Film Brings a Sex-Filled, Gender-Bending Jekyll and Hyde
    did you know that the proper pronunciation of Jekyll is "jeekyll"? "ee" as in "cheeese" ... it being a Scottish name and all ...

    ...where's my coat ....
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/19/09

    @hamshank: Did you watch Jekyll too? They discuss that very brieftly but it was still interesting.
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    Image of hamshank hamshank
    11/20/09

    @MargaretMoony: no, but know a Scottish historian and Lowland Scots dialect expert who took great pains to tell me!
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/20/09

    @hamshank: Ahahaha, that sounds like there's a good story there.

    #tips
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