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Harrison_Bergeron
09/18/09

In reply to Could Angels Be the New Vampires?
I hate how when anyone approaches a topic like this they try to cut away its Judeo-Christian roots. Even Supernaturals latest seasons are like this (I tend to forgive it because its just good story telling). It's kind of hard to have drama with Angels what with them being sexless and having no free will. And you can't really have an antagonist for them because they are the instruments of Almighty God. You really can't oppose something that is channeling the supreme omnipotent power of the creator of the universe and everything in it. I'm not particularly religious, but if your gonna use angels then you need to play by their rules.
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Sunshineyness
09/16/09

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I'm conflicted. The born and raised Catholic in me eats this kind of stuff up. I love biblical based horror movies/end of the world scenarios (when they're not 'religious fiction' shit like Left Behind) such as The Exorcist or The Seventh Sign or how the angels are done on Supernatural. Loved Gaiman and Pratchett's Good Omen's and the recent book series by Rosemary Clement-Moore "Maggie Quinn" books. I loved Sandman and Preacher too.

And how's I loves me some Win Wenders "Wings of Desire."

But if it's just gonna be the Twilight-esque hot but at arms length crap than that's not cool.

*Shrug* We'll see. I might check those books out though...
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MargaretMoony
09/16/09

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The question that I want answered is will the angelology be correct? If not, I don't want anything to do with it!

Also, by bad boy angel. do they mean Lucifer?
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Eridani
09/16/09

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Hmm, I recently read a really good couple of books where this angel, Remiel of the host Seraphim, is a private detective type. He's not a fallen angel, just an expatriate who never got over a kind of divine PTSD after the war in Heaven. So he came to earth and tries to be as human as he can. It's good stuff, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. (And we meet some of the thousand-eyes angels y'all mention.)

The first book has a stupid name "A Kiss Before the Apocalypse" but don't let that stop you. It's not a romance in the least, more mystery/thriller.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
09/16/09

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I predict that ghost romance will be the next 'big thing'.
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RandomFrequentFlierDent
09/16/09

@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®: Yep. You can’t get much more sexually safe than non-corporal.
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Marasai
09/16/09

@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®:

And none of them will be as awesome as swayze.
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Sunshineyness
09/16/09

@Jrsy Devil's Bright Idea®: Meg Cabot's Mediator series is awesome. Kinda Buffy-esque and skews a lot of the annoying Twilight-ish romance (whilst still having the romance) They're for teens but quick reads and super fun.

Just saying. :P
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The Curse of Millhaven
09/16/09

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Called it. If only Michael Landon were here to see this. It is his legacy...of love?
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
09/16/09

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There's an older book called "Metal Angel", wherein an winged angel decides to fall to Earth and become a rock star and finds twu wuv with a girl from nowhere.

But he had a LOT of sex (with both genders) and drank and did drugs (couldn't get addicted) so the tweens would be scared of all that... he made sure his human body had a giant you-know-what.
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phantom_K9
09/16/09

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Vampires done?
Zombies done?

Not until we get a movie where the theme is "Vampires vs. Zombies." Then we can move on...jeez.
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Wookie1972
09/16/09

@phantom_K9:
River Tam would end up winning.
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gorehound
09/16/09

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more tween stupidity.
man at least when i was a tween i was reading:
Asimov,Heinlein,HPL,Tolkien,etc.............
a lot more intelligent stuff yhan tween vampire drek
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Starwatcher
09/16/09

@gorehound: It's not the tweens' fault; it's the imbecilic publishers who see them as one-dimensional fodder for their cookie-cutter juvenile fiction.
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Rasselas
09/16/09

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Not to wax theological, but angels tend to have jobs. I'd read an angel workplace comedy before an angel romance.
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BadUncle
09/16/09

@Rasselas: Angel class struggle has had a long history.
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The Curse of Millhaven
09/16/09

@Rasselas: Aren't they messengers or something? Like on Dark Angel? How does that pay?
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John ya ya
09/16/09

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Angles rock. The first Prophecy movie was killer. Vego as Lucifer stole the show for the small amount of screen time he had. Scared the holy crap outta me.
And Legion might be good, hard to tell from trailer.
Totally digging the SuperNatural take on angles as well. Oh Constantine's angles were awesome. Those wings.
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Wookie1972
09/16/09

@John ya ya:

Angles?

Flatland was a pretty cool book.

(Yes, I'm being a dick and pointing out a typo, but you did it THREE TIMES),
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John ya ya
09/16/09

@Wookie1972: One was for an acute, one was for a right and one was for an obtuse.
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The Curse of Millhaven
09/16/09

@Wookie1972: Saxons roll. This somehow eventually leads to Buddy Holly.
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Wookie1972
09/17/09

@John ya ya:
Hey, thanks for going along with the joke and not chewing me out.
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Wookie1972
09/16/09

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Can't we just admit that what this all about is the adolescent preoccupation with perfect, endless love, in which you never grow old or develop real responsibilities? It's the same reason Lurlene McDaniels teen snuff fiction and Titanic were popular.
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MargaretMoony
09/16/09

@Wookie1972: Heh. Lurlene McDaniels snuff fiction. Heh.
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Sunshineyness
09/16/09

@Wookie1972: To be fair Titanic's main theme was that her "heart will go on." (I doubt you escaped that song) The point was that she got over the dude dying and went on to have a good full life, married another guy, had kids and ended up dying in bed as an old woman. She had a special place in her heart for the dude but she didn't shut down and give up and mope over his death for the rest of her life.

You don't have to like it but it certainly didn't have the same message as Twilight. Plus teenagers like pain and agony fiction. Boys do as well (though their's tends to be more violent) it's actually considered a fairly healthy part of the adolescent experience.
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Wookie1972
09/17/09

@Sunshineyness:
And yet when she passes on the the Great Beyond, the one she meets is not her husband but you-know-who.

My point was that regardless of whether her "heart went on," her love of Leo is preserved in amber, she doesn't have to see Leo get old, bald and fat. The piont is not the immortality, it's immortal "perfection."
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phoenix
09/16/09

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Now there's a change I wouldn't mind. Anything to get us off of vampires.

...and zombies. I'm kind of done with zombies too. (Yes, I know they're not done with me)
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Wookie1972
09/16/09

@phoenix:
A few years back someone suggested Golems. Now, a woman building a golem for reasons other than vengeance... that could have some potential...
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MargaretMoony
09/16/09

@Wookie1972: I think there's a book about that...somewhere. Maybe? I'll go look.
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Wookie1972
09/17/09

@MargaretMoony:
It's been done with robots or homunculi (remember that movie Making Mr. Right? and arguably Weird Science). But I don't recall specifically a golem in the mystical sense, but I could be wrong.

How about GARGOYLES!
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Alessar
09/16/09

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Castiel is all the angel I need.
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bakana
09/16/09

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I will only read books about insane and terrifying biblical angels, no shitty nonsense about humanoids with dove wings.

I want physically improbable monsters, obscene combinations of mechanical and animal parts covered in eyeballs, made out of precious stones, and shooting unearthly fire out of every hole. (see: Ezekiel)

Flaming six-winged entities carrying burning coals with tongs for some reason. (see: Isiah, Enoch)

As a concession I will also accept Jacob-style angels, who just look like people but appear out of nowhere in the middle of the night and want to wrassle. (see: Genesis 32)
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Wookie1972
09/16/09

@bakana:
Oh yeah. The visions in the Bible are mostly crazy.
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
09/16/09

@bakana: The actual Biblical descriptions are very trippy. Wheels within wheels, wings and eyes everywhere.

Even in the New Testament, the sheperds watching their flocks by night were scared shitless when the angels appeared.

Love to see some milquetoast teeny-bopper girl fall for an Ezeiel-type angel. "But MOM! I love him, and all thousand of his eyes! His wheels are beautiful! You just don't UNDERSTAND!!"
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