I went with my wife, our two year old son, and another couple with their three year old daughter. I loved the book. Hadted the movie. I spent most of the time telling my son that that is bad, and dont doo those things. Max is a bad kid. He really liked the owls flying until the wild thing hit them with a rock and they fell down. She said "they like it" reguarding the birds captured under her arms. My son nearly cried. The other couple we went with had to leave the movie multiple times because their daughter was so upset with the film. She ended up not being able to go to bed because the thought a wild thing was going to eat her.
I couldnt believe they didnt do the bedroom-to-forest scene. That should have been awesome. In the end nothing seemed resolved. He diddnt help the wild things, and diddnt fix his home life. South Park has a better message of morality that this film. Really dissappointing take on an imaginative childs imagination book.
Perhaps I just diddnt have a bad enough childhood to understand the misery and viloence in this film.
I didn't like the book much, I'll be honest. I think Maurice Sendak is a wonderful visual artist, but his stories never did much for me. My favorite thing he ever did was the art direction for "The Nutcracker."
And Spike Jones? Wevs.
I've thought this movie looked like an over-rated mess since I saw the first trailer, and I can usually get excited about anything.
Having now seen the movie, I'm pretty sure that Carol, like (almost) all the other Wild Things is no abusive father, but is instead one of Max's self-destructive patterns of reaction. K.W. is the exception, pretty clearly standing in for Max's sister, and his memories of her.
Whether such an uneven pattern of symbology is annoyingly ill-thought-out or just one of Jonze's works of genius I'm undecided yet. #wherethewildthingsare
@DrMathochist: Yeah, that's the way I saw it. the wild things are mostly aspects of Max's personality and K.W. is the female that doesn't want anything to do with him right now. Even though Max misreads why Claire won't be his friend anymore, he would probably feel that she is avoiding him for the reasons that K.W. is avoiding her group. #wherethewildthingsare
I think this was a well-written and insightful review, but I disagree with a couple of points of the reading.
1) I think that characterizing the Wild Things as behaving like "emotionally stunted, narcissistic middle-aged people" misses a key point: They are behaving like children.
Kids are self-involved, and still developing emotionally. When they continue to behave that way into adulthood, we start using terms like "narcissistic." The Wild Things sound like middle-aged people because they were voiced by...middle-aged people. But they are kids.
2) The message of the movie didn't seem to me to be "that life sucks, growing up sucks, and most of all, any attempt to escape into wildness or fantasy will only turn out even suckier."
The story was Max, in his own head, sorting out his emotions about his arguments with his mom and sister. He starts out guilty and angry, and by confronting the Wild Things, which represent himself (Carroll) and his mom/sister (K.W.), and other kids, he gains some perspective and is able to forgive himself and get over his anger. When he recognizes himself and his struggles in the Wild Things, he doesn't need them anymore, so he leaves.
He realizes that though his mom yells at him, and his sister isn't as close to him as she used to be, they still love him. And he's not a bad kid, even though he loses control sometimes, as kids do.
I don't think that there was anything remotely nihilistic about Where the Wild Things Are. It highlights the fact that childhood is emotionally difficult, but not hopeless. Tinged with sadness, sure. But not depressing. #wherethewildthingsare
@artypartyvictim: Yeah I see what you're saying, and I admit in the review that other people have seen the Wild Things that way. However, they really didn't come across that way to me. They came across as cantankerous middle-aged people, who had been having the same arguments for decades. The movie went out of its way to downplay the idea that this is all taking place in Max's head, by eliminating the "bedroom turns into jungle" sequence and replacing it with the "running away" sequence. But also the actors playing the Wild Things didn't seem like children, or like aspects of a child's psyche. They seemed like grouchy old people, who need their medication adjusted. #wherethewildthingsare
@Wookie1972: Oh that's interesting..... I did not know that. The Wild Things in the book, though, are a lot more one dimensional and just, you know, Wild. #wherethewildthingsare
@Charlie Jane Anders: I checked again, and the names he gave them (not the names Jonze and Eggers used, btw) were from his aunts and uncles, who used to tease him by saying "we'll eat you up."
I am torn on the movie... the best comparison I've heard is to RObert ALtman's Popeye, just an all-out attempt to recreate what the director and screenwriter liked about the original. I'm glad that they were respectful to the material, unlike most other kid's book adaptations *cough*Shrek*cough*.
On the other hand, I just didn't feel that much at all when I saw it. I was ready to be bawling at the end, and while I got a little misty-eyed, it just didn't effect me that much. Hell, I was more upset by the big celebrity death in Zombieland. #wherethewildthingsare
I really disagree with this review, a lot. The family dysfunction in the wild things is perfect, and maybe it was really obvious to me and not everyone else, but it shows the maturity of children, and Spike Jones/David Eggers caught that really well. The thing is, not every kids fantasy is happy go lucky perfect, and the original book never states things were always perfect (Sendak has talked about this before, too) most adults tend to assume it will because of the other books they've read for kids, and apply that tone, which is wrong. Adults should at least be able to experience whatever tone they can apply to it and experiment with different tones - it's the perfect book to do that.
What else could Jones have done with this movie? It was this, which was frankly amazing, or abandon the ideas of conflict in it and create a normal hollywood kids imagination movie following the same single conflict plot that ends up seeing the main character save the day with his ragtag band of magic imagination friends? That would have been boring, it would have made the movie a flop (maybe not at the box office, but as a movie itself), and it would have betrayed the image of the book Sendak had to begin with.
One of the biggest, best themes was Max projecting so much onto the characters, simplifying and making it into what he understands, and through that he shows how little he understands what is going on around him. Anyone who doesn't feel emotional or can't connect with the issues of the Wild Things and Max himself probably had an ideal childhood or didn't know anyone who had issues in their life - especially as a 9 year old child. #wherethewildthingsare
The movie basically oozed tension and anxiety from every pore, and I think this review gets that perfectly. The only complaint I have about that is that I didn't feel that it made for a convincing leave-taking scene at the end. The wild things are basically left worse off than they were before Max came, and now he's just abandoning them without any resolution, yet for some reason they they are sad to see him go. Didn't they all hate him just a second ago? That just didn't seem to flow together to me. #wherethewildthingsare
@Daumier: I didn't quite read it that way. The bones of the previous kings was kind of an acknowledgement that Max's departure left them realizing what they were acting like towards each other. The Wild Things thought they needed a "king" to be happy but now they realize they don't so things will be different. The look Carol gave KW was the same as the one Max gave his mom after coming home. All is forgiven. #wherethewildthingsare
@Daumier: The Wild Things are no better or worse off than before Max came. They're unchanged now for the same reason they've always been unchanged: they're archetypes.
Charlie Jane interprets their changeless repetition of the same fights over and over as them being middle-aged and set in their ways, but they're the kids who just wouldn't grow up (a la Peter Pan's lost boys). #wherethewildthingsare
This is an amazing review. Lots of detail and information, excellent samplings, and still leaves you curious and wanting to see it. #wherethewildthingsare
@Novaload: Just saw this today with my 5 yr old daughter who loved the book and really liked the movie. I noticed there were lots of really little kids in the theatre and Charles is right, it's not a little kids' movie.
This review is excellent and really captures everything I noticed about the movie. I left not liking it (the movie), but have not been able to get it out of my head all evening; it's growing on me - I think ultimately, it has much more to say than one sees on the surface. #wherethewildthingsare
@Novaload: ...or not wanting to see it, in my case. It just sounds so depressing. And I loved the book as a kid, reading it hundreds of times - it was one of my favorites. #wherethewildthingsare
@Mama Penguino: I know what you mean; I have seen movies and thought, I really didn't like that, but it stays with you. Almost haunts you. Some I never go back to , sometimes I do. Pan's Labyrinth was like that for me. I was glad I saw it, and appreciated it deeply for the characters and imagination, but it was just so sad. Ditto "The Orphanage." (Not to pick on one theme--there's also Fargo, for instance.) #wherethewildthingsare
@Guang: I'm way older than you, I grew up with Alice in Wonderland--the original, with the original illustrations. I will look at movie attempts (though not Disney's)--but only for about 2 minutes. In those cases, I would never buy a ticket, I'd wait and watch it on line so I could bail out without feeling that I'd wasted anything. #wherethewildthingsare
I went ahead and read the review after discussing this with Evil Tortie's Mom, and I am sincerely glad that I did. And really CJ, incredible job on the write-up it was completely upfront and frank which I loved. So after reading this I am glad I talked about it with my wife and ETM because my son would hate this movie and it doesn't seem like kid fare. It does however seem to really pay service to the people who were kids and are already grown and familiar with the book and story. It pretty much sounds like my childhood (to an extent, my imagination is wild but not that wild) so I definitely want to see it just for my own personal edification.
Not this weekend though because Paranormal Activity is getting me and the wife's $11.00/ea (ugh!) #wherethewildthingsare
Depressing, nihilistic, starring a bratty child, with an audience full of hipsters!
I'll be sure to miss it entirely. I can't afford mood-altering drugs with no medical coverage, plus children and hipsters annoy me.
This is an incredibly well-written review, though. It doesn't just recap, it really gives you the info to decide if you'll like it or not. More reviews should do that. #wherethewildthingsare
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Hey mood altering drugs can be obtained with no medical coverage, you just need to look in the right place. #wherethewildthingsare
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: 1) I don't really know where the hipster label came from. Is it because of the music or the fact that it fits in the strange area of nostaliga that doesn't include cartoons for action figures or comic books.
2) I totally don't believe the whole nihilism thing. Sure its not "The world works out ok because Jesus loves you" or "The world sucks because you're an asshole kid" but I thought there was definitely an ethos. Its about families and the weird relationships and emotions they entail. #wherethewildthingsare
10/19/09
I couldnt believe they didnt do the bedroom-to-forest scene. That should have been awesome. In the end nothing seemed resolved. He diddnt help the wild things, and diddnt fix his home life. South Park has a better message of morality that this film. Really dissappointing take on an imaginative childs imagination book.
Perhaps I just diddnt have a bad enough childhood to understand the misery and viloence in this film.
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And Spike Jones? Wevs.
I've thought this movie looked like an over-rated mess since I saw the first trailer, and I can usually get excited about anything.
10/18/09
Whether such an uneven pattern of symbology is annoyingly ill-thought-out or just one of Jonze's works of genius I'm undecided yet. #wherethewildthingsare
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1) I think that characterizing the Wild Things as behaving like "emotionally stunted, narcissistic middle-aged people" misses a key point: They are behaving like children.
Kids are self-involved, and still developing emotionally. When they continue to behave that way into adulthood, we start using terms like "narcissistic." The Wild Things sound like middle-aged people because they were voiced by...middle-aged people. But they are kids.
2) The message of the movie didn't seem to me to be "that life sucks, growing up sucks, and most of all, any attempt to escape into wildness or fantasy will only turn out even suckier."
The story was Max, in his own head, sorting out his emotions about his arguments with his mom and sister. He starts out guilty and angry, and by confronting the Wild Things, which represent himself (Carroll) and his mom/sister (K.W.), and other kids, he gains some perspective and is able to forgive himself and get over his anger. When he recognizes himself and his struggles in the Wild Things, he doesn't need them anymore, so he leaves.
He realizes that though his mom yells at him, and his sister isn't as close to him as she used to be, they still love him. And he's not a bad kid, even though he loses control sometimes, as kids do.
I don't think that there was anything remotely nihilistic about Where the Wild Things Are. It highlights the fact that childhood is emotionally difficult, but not hopeless. Tinged with sadness, sure. But not depressing. #wherethewildthingsare
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I am torn on the movie... the best comparison I've heard is to RObert ALtman's Popeye, just an all-out attempt to recreate what the director and screenwriter liked about the original. I'm glad that they were respectful to the material, unlike most other kid's book adaptations *cough*Shrek*cough*.
On the other hand, I just didn't feel that much at all when I saw it. I was ready to be bawling at the end, and while I got a little misty-eyed, it just didn't effect me that much. Hell, I was more upset by the big celebrity death in Zombieland. #wherethewildthingsare
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What else could Jones have done with this movie? It was this, which was frankly amazing, or abandon the ideas of conflict in it and create a normal hollywood kids imagination movie following the same single conflict plot that ends up seeing the main character save the day with his ragtag band of magic imagination friends? That would have been boring, it would have made the movie a flop (maybe not at the box office, but as a movie itself), and it would have betrayed the image of the book Sendak had to begin with.
One of the biggest, best themes was Max projecting so much onto the characters, simplifying and making it into what he understands, and through that he shows how little he understands what is going on around him. Anyone who doesn't feel emotional or can't connect with the issues of the Wild Things and Max himself probably had an ideal childhood or didn't know anyone who had issues in their life - especially as a 9 year old child. #wherethewildthingsare
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it was an island of social disorder. #wherethewildthingsare
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-Kle. #wherethewildthingsare
10/17/09
The Cult of Can't Leave Well Enough Alone scores another victory
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Charlie Jane interprets their changeless repetition of the same fights over and over as them being middle-aged and set in their ways, but they're the kids who just wouldn't grow up (a la Peter Pan's lost boys). #wherethewildthingsare
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This review is excellent and really captures everything I noticed about the movie. I left not liking it (the movie), but have not been able to get it out of my head all evening; it's growing on me - I think ultimately, it has much more to say than one sees on the surface. #wherethewildthingsare
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Excellent review as usual. #wherethewildthingsare
10/16/09
Not this weekend though because Paranormal Activity is getting me and the wife's $11.00/ea (ugh!) #wherethewildthingsare
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I'll be sure to miss it entirely. I can't afford mood-altering drugs with no medical coverage, plus children and hipsters annoy me.
This is an incredibly well-written review, though. It doesn't just recap, it really gives you the info to decide if you'll like it or not. More reviews should do that. #wherethewildthingsare
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2) I totally don't believe the whole nihilism thing. Sure its not "The world works out ok because Jesus loves you" or "The world sucks because you're an asshole kid" but I thought there was definitely an ethos. Its about families and the weird relationships and emotions they entail. #wherethewildthingsare
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