Orphan Black's second season ended with a mind-boggling cliffhanger, and now we have to wait a whole year to find out what happens next. And to process all of the insane developments in season two. We talked to the show's creators and cast, and they reminisced... and dropped a few hints.
Spoilers ahead …
At San Diego Comic-Con, we got the chance to catch up with Tatiana Maslany, Jordan Gavaris, Maria Doyle Kennedy, Dylan Bruce, Ari Millen, Kristian Bruun and creators Graeme Manson and John Fawcett. Orphan Black was only renewed for season three a few weeks ago, so the gang didn't have much information on what's to come, but they did reveal some ideas that they're considering — and also ran through a few highlights from the second season. Including one that deserved its own impromptu musical number.
When you found out that Ari was getting his own clones were you like, 'That's great,' or 'No, that's my thing?'
Tatiana Maslany: Oh my god, I was so excited because I just remember the first day on set working with him in that diner scene in episode one of season two and sitting across from him, and he had this presence about him that was so undeniable and so deep and dark. He just has all these amazing qualities in him and I think he's an incredible actor so I think he's really [gonna] bring the show up to another level entirely.
That's exactly what I wrote about him in my episode one review!
Maslany: Yeah, because he's kind of a shocking presence. He's beautiful and yet you're just kind of drawn in for all the other reasons. He's just a really, really interesting actor.
Marie Doyle Kennedy: That scene then became like one of those movies that we all really love, like a Coen brothers film or something, about him and the look and the eggs.
The outfits, too!
Kennedy: Yes, exactly!
Jordan Gavaris: That line — [to Maslany] I think I like texted you or tweeted you or something when he said, 'We're here to take you to Kira,' I was like, [gasps]. [Laughs]
Kennedy: No! They're not!
Gavaris: I was like, 'Oh my god!' He has this gravitas that you don't often see – he just isn't afraid to reveal himself as everything. He just reveals it all.
Maslany: Dark badass.
Gavaris: Dark badass, bad guy.
Can you tell me about playing a clone? Does Tatiana give you any clone acting 101?
Ari Millen: We've had a couple of conversations, but I think we're waiting to find out a bit more about who they are then being able to develop things so, I'm pretty excited.
How was it for you reading that script? Maybe it was the way it was edited in the episode, but there's a shot of Paul that comes in, so I'm like, 'Holy sh*t. It's gonna be Paul.'
Dylan Bruce: Yeah, well, actually I think it would be too gimmicky if it was Paul. I think all the other male characters on the show were discussed, but I think bringing someone new, a new character, a fresh character into it, I think was a genius move to do, and Ari's gonna be great. But, you know, it's a lofty task, but this guy's up for the challenge for sure.
What's Felix's deal next season? All throughout the show he's gotten close to different characters, but now he's friends with everyone, but not particularly close to anyone.
Gavaris: I always think really hard about what kind of answer I can come up with. I have no idea what his deal is gonna be. I've been redefining who he is and who I am, too. The last couple of years have kind of been a roller coater ride, so I've been going through the process of redefining what I bring to my work and what I'm gonna bring to him. I've got no idea where he's going. I'm just gonna dive in. I'm gonna just see what happens. I have no idea what's gonna happen.
You probably hear this all the time, but it's so bizarre to hear your real accent.
Gavaris: [Laughs] I scare people often.
During the first season, did you have any idea where Mrs. S was going to go or were you playing it not knowing what she was capable of?
Kennedy: No, I had no idea at all, but when I went to meet Graeme at the very beginning, he told me that partly Mrs. S was based on Patti Smith so I jumped off a chair and hugged him to bits and that was the sealer for me. So I reckon, one of the most unpredictable and true women in the world to be based on, it's gotta go somewhere interesting. And like Jordan, I really don't know what's coming except I think I'll always be really interested in tea. That's kind of the only consistency for me for next season. [Laughs]
Gavaris: Tea and rifles.
Can you tell me a little about the fan reaction to season two, and how much of that you incorporate into the new season?
Graeme Manson: Well, I mean, the fan reaction is super gratifying. How much it effects us moving forward, how much?
John Fawcett: Well, listen, we always love to hear what the fans think of what we're doing and, you know, a lot of the times people have really great ideas and, you know, it does. The stuff you read, you get excited about it and it does tend to sway you sometimes a little bit creatively.
Manson: At least we often go, 'Oh, we can't do that,' because somebody thought of it or they want it too much, so we've gotta do something different.
Fawcett: But we do have kind of a big picture story to tell and that's kind of our priority and so, as much as we'd love to, you know …
Manson: Have Beth and Alison have an affair, for instance … soccer cop. [Laughs]
Fawcett: Soccer cop. We can't do everything, right?
So no more Tony?
Manson: No, not at all.
Fawcett: You shouldn't say that. No.
Manson: I'd love to bring back Tony and I'm sure Tat would, too.
Can you tell me about building this mythology? What I love about the show is that it brings these really big ideas into play, but keeps them all pretty grounded. Did you ever come up with something that got too crazy and made you say, 'No, we've gotta pull it back?'
Can you share any examples?
Fawcett: Well, for example …
Manson: Fat ankle clone didn't go very far.
Fawcett: No, that didn't go very far. Plus, in the Jesse/Helena story, I believe the original incarnation of that was Helena on a mechanical bull, and the mechanical bull we felt was just like maybe going a little too far.
Are we talking about a literal mechanical bull?
Fawcett: Instead of arm-wrestling. You know how they were arm-wrestling?
Oh, they'd go on a mechanical bull!
Fawcett: It was a mechanical bull instead.
Is there any plan for him to return? I feel so bad for her!
Fawcett: We love Jesse, and we love Helena romance.
Fawcett: And we love Patrick [J. Adams], too, so we can be hopeful.
Are there any rules with clones? Can you max out at a point where you feel like you're not comfortable adding more characters to this world?
Manson: Yeah, you know, it's a busy show. It's a complex show. We have a lot of story threads. We can't service every clone every episode, so at some point, you know, someone's gotta go if you're gonna introduce new people.
Who's ready for the rise of Donnie? For most of the show, Bruun's character has really just been half doofy husband and half monitor red herring, but ever since accidentally blowing Dr. Leekie's brains out, that's all changed. Now Donnie's back with Alison and proving the two make quite the team.http://www.viddler.com/v/ddb0432
Hopes are high that Donnie gets more screen time in season three, now that he's on team clone club. So in anticipation of what's to come, we opted to ask Bruun how they managed to pull off that game-changing scene of shooting Dr. Leekie. Check out what he told us — followed by a very appropriate musical number:
Kristian Bruun: Shooting Dr. Leekie was one take. It was the most nerve-racking thing I've ever filmed in my life. It was one in the morning, they set up, they were like, 'Okay, we've got two or three takes that we can do of this,' but by the time we actually got to the scene, the day had gone so long, it was 1am and Ken Girotti, the director, sat me down, he was like, 'Okay, listen, we don't have time to clean the vehicle. We have one take, so nail it, buddy.' And that was it.
Does the gun make a flash right there?
Bruun: There was a guy sitting behind the passenger seat with a gun of goop that they like air shot me with and it just went everywhere. It was like, chunks hanging off the windshield, on my face.
You know how celebrities sneak around the Convention Center floor, hiding their identities using costumes? If the Orphan Black cast ever pulled that, this is what they might go as. (Although some of these ideas are more revealing than concealing.)