chason

steamrunner

I don't want to spoil it for anyone else, so I wont say anything more. But I'd be interested in discussing it with others who don't mind spoilers. Is there are forum to do that?

fraketyfrak

JennaW

dagwood

JennaW

I get the feeling that Star Wars is to Westerns as Battlestar Galactica is to Soap Operas. Or maybe bodice rippers.

Counterglow

And ships are more likely to carry around chalk as regular supplies then they are lcds.

cde

Swami_Binkinanda

SF Guy In Korea

A possible storyline this season is that Chief Tyrol believes his son is a human/Cylon hybrid and he freaks out (which he's known to do) and kills the child... hence the knife in the picture. In the extended version of Razor, we learn that the final Cylon will be revealed "in the howl of terrible suffering" ... i.e. Cally discovering the death of her child. Just like in Greek tragedy!

extracrispy

The Nicohle 6 looks more like the Janeway cylon then she does 6.

And of note, Lee is the only one with his back and face turned to Baltar's 6.

And the last Cylon is the Doctor. He is the only one in a position of knowledge that couldn't have possibly have missed the Tyrol/Cally hybrid. He is also already aware of how a hybrid looks like internally, so there you go.

cde

NeoPoliticus

The half-full glass looks like it is in front of Baltar, not Lee Apollo.

nerdbait

The photo corresponds to the last supper not as it is, but if flipped so that The Chief is in the position of Peter, who holds a knife in Da Vinci's The Last Supper. Starbuck moves to the position of John, who sometimes is considered to be Mary.

Lee is not the Judas figure, because in Da Vinci's painting Judas was the only one with his elbow on the table (both Lee and Baltar have their elbows on the table).

Anders has the position of Judas Iscariot, which makes for an interesting interpretation.

The missing person would be in the place of Philip the Apostle, who preached until the crowd released Bartholomew (Adama's position) but allowed himself to be crucified.

Roslin is in the position of Simon the Zealot, which is interesting.

nerdbait

It's hard for me to accurately navigate the sight-lines to see who, if anyone, is looking at which book. I suppose that Roslyn could be looking at the big open book, but I think it's either Adama or Hilo/Sharon that's the focus of her gaze.

Also, the glass of water in front of Appolo is only half full (well, a little over half) while the glass in front of Anders is filled to the top. The chalice strikes me as an interesting choice for the third cup as well since it's an ancient or religious tool for drinking as opposed to the modern glasses (a hint to the piety of the missing Cylon?). Plus we can't see how much liquid is (or is not) inside (reflective of the missing Cylon?).

I'd also be interested to see what the parallels are to the real Last Supper image (who is playing the role of Judas?).

Sadly, I can't offer any suggestions as to what all this may mean, if it means anything at all. Just thoughts for further discussion.

roquesdoodle

bring on the chin!

chrystlubitshi

taxbaby

Dybbuk

There's an interesting theory about Lee being the last Cylon at the website listed below. I'm not sure I buy it, but is is interesting to consider (as this article points out) the 12 types of human that the Cylons represent.

[www.associatedcontent.com]

Lula_Mae

JennaW

extracrispy

Falconfire

The entire show to me conveys a sense of 'reality' as in the characters act in what to me would be a normal fashion given the circumstances they are in. Every predicament they find themselves in is not wrapped up neatly and happily every week. Face it, if you found yourself in similar circumstances, you could not reasonably expect for you and your fellow travelers to escape the rigors of such a journey unscathed. We'd like the sugar-coated TV realities that the bad guys never get away with it, and most everyone ends up happy, but in all probability, it just wouldn't be so.

I get that people do not like the show, but simply stating that you don't is probably right up there with me defending that I do without further explanation.

doctor_cos

But then isn't "infinite mass" a logical theory? Is it not possible that the theory may have a margin of error that would allow someone to travel faster than light? With that in mind, is there any reasonable explanation apart from mathematics to explain what infinite mass is?

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

Presumeably, the rounds would continue in their trajectory until stopped by a gravitational body. In the case of the Nuclear weapons, they're probably very similar to modern day nuclear weapons with safeguards to prevent 'accidental detonation' or some similar sort of fail-safe device that would prevent an unwanted detonation. Irradation would probably be a problem, if they didn't accidentally fall into a black hole or star. The bullets likely wouldn't be a huge threat--if they can't puncture the hole of anything larger than a fighter, shrug it off.

You also can assume based on what we've seen that the bullets are 'faster' then the Vipers themselves, which would make 'turning into your own bullets' unlikely. Otherwise there would be the very obvious problem of acceleration so fast that the gun fires a projectile and with the ship PROMPTLY over-taking it and exploding.

Still, it's weird you can not accept these facts and yet you make no mention of Faster-then-light travel, which is literally impossible. (You hit speed of light and you're mass becomes infinite. The only even remotely possible way to travel 'faster then light' would be to bend space into something smaller rather than traveling faster.

Luckily for all of us it's a fantasy and we don't have to nitpick every single little tiny detail about space travel that make shows such impossible. (Because bluntly, traveling anything farther than the moon is damn near insurmountable).

Evdor

Waelwulf

It's okay. :D

phoenix

Waelwulf

@EGN: Good! Glad I made sense, there ;) There was an episode of "This American Life" on the vagaries of taste which I am reminded of from time to time. It was titled, "Your Dream, My Nightmare" -- very apropos.

Cheers!

JennaW

EGN

Plus, it's also cool that it parallels one of my favorite video games of all time (and one of my most loathed movies), Wing Commander, which I still believe would make a sweet TV show. I love space ships.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

But to answer your question, I love the darkness of it; the depth of the characters; the unexpected revelations of good in the bad guys and bad in the good guys; the fact that no one does everything right all the time and sometimes the smart people do dumb things that make sense [as in, the way things are set up, the stupid choice is in character rather than just a plot device]; the sense that anyone could die; the feel of desperation that is so realistic to the situation they're in; the fact that there is so much dissension and difficulty -- even faced with their utter destruction, people tend to focus on their own wants, needs, and agendas; the way things hark back to moments, glimpses, etc. from the first episodes, reframing them and illuminating details; the complexity of relationships and loyalties; the fact that the people behind this show really know what they're doing and where they're going with the story.

I don't think it's perfect; there were episodes last season which may turn out to be very important to the Big Story but which seemed to me at the time to be about side characters to the detriment of finding out more about our central characters, but I listen to the podcasts, and I find that generally Ron Moore knows when an episode didn't hit the mark and is very honest about what worked, what didn't, why it didn't, etc. I like that about the show, too: No bravado.

JennaW

EGN

I've always tried to address that in my own imaginative efforts (that bare no fruit, mind you) and one of my explanations is that the bullet material, which works well in space, would instantly disintegrate upon entering atmosphere. Otherwise, the bullet will strike a space manatee and cause a terrible butterfly effect. :D

ANYWAYS, I went and got this mag to get a better look at the picture. Seems Helo and Athena are glaring at Roslin, who is in turn squinting back at them and lighting a cup of sorts on fire. Tigh is explained by the mag as "turning a blind eye". As to what, we can only speculate, but I will guess that Helo and Athena will discover their baby exists and Tigh will be the only one who knows that they've taken her back.

Cheers.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

doctor_cos

strider_mt2k

saketini99

JennaW

Perhaps all the honorable warfighters died at their posts protecting their home worlds leaving only the REMF's to staff the battlestar.

Here's an idea, re-cast Bill Clinton as Baltar!

Duneman

Charlie Jane Anders

Eimhin

Kounji

Athaliah

Dybbuk

however, even if were recently replaced, makes no sense for Boomer to have shot him up on the bridge... not to mention when he was getting fixed up they would have found cylon physiology.

but aside from those GLARING problems... sure, go ahead and make a case for Bill Adama as a cylon. run with it.

DaveMcClure500Hats

I also wonder if the chalice in the empty spot implies that there will be some kind of resurrection associated with the last Cylon. I also want to know more about Roslin with the lit match and flaming egg cup...

Miss. Money-Sterling

Everything was after the jump, and the title quite explicitly states that secrets of the new season are betrayed - otherwise known as spoilers. Why did you click?

Anyways, I agree. Natalie 6 is pointing at Helo and Sharon, likely because they, like Baltar's 6, are aware of the baby and want to claim it before it does something terrible.

Nobody, however, has mentioned what Tigh is doing. You can't really tell much 'cause of the patch, but there's a reason for him being in the shot, no? His eyeline matches either Baltar or Starbuck.

dunetiger reads kotaku, seems pleased

Waelwulf

spudzill

JennaW

freznel

OMG! Ponies!

I think he's glaring at Baltar actually. He was always the most vocal about how shifty Baltar is. His gaze is a similar one to Helos but because he's sitting lower it looks more in Baltars direction.

will

Otherwise, they probably look that way because ol' one-eye is glaring at them.

adduby

hn333

I've always thought that out of all the cylon models their behaviour is similar to a PH scale. The really nasty ones being at one end and the nice ones at the other with 6 being in the middle ground, not quite sure which way to go.

It reminds me of the first human form replicators from SG1 when they visit the planet in the time dilation device.

will

Charlie Jane Anders

zguy

Annalee Newitz

Mister Adequate

EGN