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Star Trek Journeys to "Planet Atheist"

zero2one — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:17:33 PST

If you can, try to imagine Absolutely nothing existing. What would there be now? You can not, no matter how hard you try get something out of nothing. Try it for your self 0+0=0, always has and no intelligent scientist or evolutionist rather can ever change that out side of his/her fairytail.

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AresPassage — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:43:35 PST

To answer mgoldfarb's comment: Stranger in a Strange Land, maybe Babylon 5?

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dead_red_eyes — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:39:11 PST

Ugh. That was beyond horrible.

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Moff — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:32:37 PST

@dlomax: I dunno. I wouldn't vote for him, but Huckabee's awfully good on Colbert.

Moff

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dlomax — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:46:09 PST

Well, that settles it. Creationists are only funny when they don't intend to be.

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Lars — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:20:14 PST

@CSX321: Yeah, but they also suck. Everything Clarke wrote with Gentry Lee is quasi-sociological mush with a side order of sex. And it's badly written.

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El Ojo — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:12:36 PST

@mgoldfarb: There's the whole Bajoran plot line in DS9.

As for the video, I hope that Paramount's lawyers set their phasers on "kill."

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FrankenPC — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:27:12 PST

Spock needs to stop tapping the keg. This short is cheesier than the LDS color by number pamplets.

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AlfaCharger — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:15:18 PST

Shame on me, It's Jerry!!

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AlfaCharger — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:13:24 PST

A CD I purchased a few years ago, features a Cantata by Gerry Goldsmith in his "Planets of the Apes" style called Christus Apollo. The poem of the work, by Ray Bradbury, deals with Christ and his appearence across the Universe.

[www.telarc.com]

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I-prefer-evil-genius — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:54:59 PST

I would throw Dune on the list as well. I join the others in recommending The Sparrow and Children of God as well as Speaker for the Dead.

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Moff — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:44:12 PST

And although the collision of Christianity and alien culture isn't by any means the focal conflict, the Roman Catholic Church figures large in Dan Simmons's Endymion and Rise of Endymion, with it as the main antagonist and the aliens on the good guys' side.

Moff

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shudderstep — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:48:21 PST

@mgoldfarb:

The Sparrow goes into the alien cutlures beliefs conflicting with human religion in a very visceral way. It doesn't come across as complete analog (there are shades of Cortez/Montezuma, but nothing too overt) that would ruin the work. It's actually widely read among Jesuit priests and lay people.

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DanielBrenton — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:46:03 PST

Boy -- that vid is TERRIBLE. (Fine ... I judged it. Judge me.) I gave up on it after about 45 seconds.

@wishnevsky: I suspect you're thinking of "The Final Programme" by Moorcock. If I'm remembering correctly, the messiah aspect came in right at the end of the novel. This was made into a film called "The Last Days of Man on Earth" that did not strike me as particularly good, and left out the messiah angle entirely.

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CSX321 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:29:00 PST

SF and religion? Arthur C. Clarke's and Gentry Lee's Rama books are heavy on religion.

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Danilo Campos — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:27:07 PST

@mgoldfarb: As wishnevsky mentioned, Speaker for the Dead, and its sequels, examine the collision of human culture with extraterrestrial sentience and religion is a fairly central theme. Human colonists end up spreading Catholicism to a portion of the aliens, who end up interpreting the gospel in their own self-serving ways.

It's easily my favorite science fiction series. (Though not the prequel stuff Card did branching out into post-war Earth with Bean -- that was weak, compared to the original four books)

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tetracycloide — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:10:52 PST

@mgoldfarb: halo?

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goldfarb — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:43:26 PST

ah "The Sparrow"...was recommended to me a while back - forgot to pick it up...thanks for the reminder
it seems most times religion in sci-fi is just the usual extrapolation of human beliefs...or, very often, an alien belief system is just a disguised human one...

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shudderstep — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:35:42 PST

That was...awkward. Though I'd rather see all deep questions debated in youtube form than read another Christopher Hitchens drunken ramble.

As for sci-fi with religion/aliens, "The Sparrow" by Mary Doria Russell deals with a Jesuit mission to an alien world. The whole story centers around the interaction of religion with a first contact scenario. It's pretty heavy stuff, especially the ending. The sequel "Children of God" is also excellent.

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Ken Keegan — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:34:02 PST

Good old Christians. "Broadcast Him" lol.

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wishnevsky — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:13:31 PST

The Dark Light Years by James Blish. And was that "Speaker to the Dead?" I'm not sure about that. And the chaplain is a strong character in "The Mote in God's Eye."

Lots of snarky Religious stuff in Jack Vance. He has this thing about religious pilgrims. His last book "Ports of Call is a good example. There is some stuff in one of the Alastor series, "Marjune" i think.

And Cordwainer Smith is all about religion and aliens, although most of the aliens are human derived, ie "The Underpeople"

Of course, "Stranger in a Strange Land" is about religion almost exclusively, with Michael Valentine Smith being a stand in for Jesus as well as a representative of the Martians.

There is a lot of religion in "The Stars My Destination," but no aliens, and some weird Michael Moorcock thing about a hermaphroditic rock star messiah. I have repressed the name of that turkey.

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IntoAshes — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:11:56 PST

Funny Christians. Great.

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NefariousNewt — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:02:53 PST

@mgoldfarb: The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Project Pope by Clifford D. Simak, but that was mainly about robots trying to create a perfect religion and an infallible computer Pope.

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NefariousNewt — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:59:41 PST

That's just silly.

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goldfarb — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:59:25 PST

can anyone think of a sci-fi story that involves the conflict or even the interaction of Human religion and extraterrestrial?
It just occured to me that I can't seem to think of any...
worth exploring I think...

goldfarb