<![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick - io9 Comments]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: You're such a shill for the outmoded form-attackers. OK, I gotta go lacerate some starfish.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @desiredusername: Well, of course, by "more" I mean "more," so I guess it would be more accurate to say that you disagree.

Behold, the beauty of the movie review! I will now go see a movie that I will enjoy, you will avoid one that you wouldn't enjoy! Everybody wins! You hear that, Matt_Damhave? EVERYBODY WINS!

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> You just made this movie sound a hundred thousand times more interesting.

If by "more" you mean "less", I agree.

I've seen enough sentimental "this pile of junk may be a eyesore if not an actual menace, but it's OUR pile of junk" movies. I just wanted to see funny cheap remakes.

I think I'll skip it after all.

desiredusername

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> What ever happened to enjoying movies? I for one really want to see this. It looks highly entertaining. I hope to get a kick out of it. If I don't, then I'll be bummed. At least I won't sit and make broad statements about the emptiness or futility of "indie" films against Hollywood.

Burdman

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> This comment thread made me very happy.

Thank you.

92BuickLeSabre

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff: That tag should be exported to the whole net. Work it into the next HTML standard or something. I like Braak's idea, too.

Evil Tortie's Mom

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Plague: I wonder if there's just some method of public castigation that could be set up. Like, you get the Shut Up, College tag built into your name, so that whenever you post, it appears right underneath.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff:
(snicker)

I wonder if IO9 will ever resort to the Gawker school of bannination

Plague

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Plague: Seriously. We actually have a whole tag for this shit over at Gawker proper: [gawker.com]

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @EDread83: I do have to say that left-handed people who actually mouse with their left hands kinda weird me out. No offense if anyone here does that.

(Check that out, Damhave! I just verbed "mouse"!)

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: They must keep it in the refrigerators I find so difficult to open!

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> Man. Somebody needs a pacifier and a nap.
Or is my use of English language and logic too "outmoded" to be understood?

Plague

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff: i heard milk was something that was thought up for a special after school edition of Alex Mack on Nickelodeon but some guy in Wisconsin stole the idea for himself. I had a video of it but i cant find it, some asshole left handed person used my computer and now the buttons on my mouse are reversed.

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff: Well, you wouldn't. Milk is the part of the privileged lifestyle of our right-handed oppressors.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: Yeah, there's something intensely disingenuous about posting comments on an internet site and then pretending not to care whether or not people can understand you.

But, all right, so you're the Bob Dylan of internet comments, and you're making some kind of artistic statement by being unintelligible. Maybe you're saying that intelligent discourse--where two or more people use the common principles of English to communicate information to each other--is itself stultifying.

Whatever; no one knows, or cares, what you're talking about, anyway.

Rock on! Two thumbs up!

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @EDread83: And if no one wants to buy it, that's OK. No spilt milk. I just wish I knew what milk was.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: we are talking about posts on a sci-fi blog right?!? Are you comparing your comments to artist's works of art? Dude if your comments are that deep you should totally write them down and make a book.

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> edread- everyone loses.

Matt_Damhave

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> yeah i gotta say if you are going to attempt to communicate using a language, whether you believe in the rules of said language or not, you have to at least attempt to follow them in order to be even slightly understood. But i am just saying.

Back to the post though. I feel Gondry's movies and videos are breathtaking and i enjoy them very much. While there are similarities between the this movie and that kid's show, i am sure Gondry will be able to tackle the subject of home made movies in a way that will force us to question our humanity.......wait....what?!?!

Anyway i have been looking forward to this movie for some time now. I enjoyed Mos Def in Hitchhikers, i rock out to the D from time to time, and (coincidentally) watched The Science Of Sleep at least 3 times last weekend. This movie will be one i watch in theaters as well as probably pick up when it hits DVD.

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: Whoa. Attacking the Hollywood machine? Refusal to be bound by outmoded "rules"? If they don't understand you, it's their own fault?

I find your groundbreaking ideas intriguing. Perhaps you offer a newsletter to which one might subscribe?

Also: Oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre, oeuvre!

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> "it only works if everyone understands it".......tell that to bob dylan, celine, ghostface, burroughs, bataille, jarry, ..etc... it's not about everyone understanding--it is about who needs to understand it. if one understands-then one- if none-none. no spilt milk... especially if you don't know what milk is.

Matt_Damhave

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: You also attack the form if the form results in the idea becoming incomprehensible.

Say what you want to about language and its evolution, it only works if everyone understands it, and, in order for that to happen, we've got to play by the same rules.

@EDread83: I had a video about that, but I can't find it, now. Some right-handed bastard has been using my computer.

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: is there a prize if we guess right?

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> It's not just Gondry- It's the system that he is "outside-in." a system re-validated by the fence sitting-faux art-pseudo liberal premise of Be Kind.

insofar as diction, grammar, punctuation...etc.. I refuse to be bound by outmoded conservative forms of communication-i'll play by the illogical "rules" of english when they send me back to high school... 'til then- i'll speak the way I speak. either one "gets it" or doesn't.. "translation is the art of failure."

language only grows when lacerated like starfish. we are all being held back by those who forbid such operations.

when you can't attack the idea-you attack the form- from behind the shield of pseudonym.... wicked. chalk another one up for the real-nameless/faceless internet ciceros....

say "oeuvre" more- i heard it's "filmic"- herzog has an oeuvre- gondry has a collection of pop videos--there is a bit of a difference. one is a filmmaker- the other is an employee of record companies and production houses---can you guess which is which?

Matt_Damhave

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> i heard the idea of left handed people being smarter was stolen from nickelodeon.

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff: I've heard that, too. It was on Wikipedia. But someone told me that Wikipedia has a left-handed bias, so...

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: P.S. We are smarter and more creative than our right-handed oppressors.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: I don't read posts. I get all my information from rumors. Or so they say.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff: Hey, I'm left-handed, too!

It was in the post, damn it!

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Matt_Damhave: As a left-handed person, I resent your use of the term sinister. And as a thinking person, I resent your poorly punctuated, not appreciably coherent argument for the hollowness of Michel Gondry's oeuvre.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Tim Faulkner: Plus 10!

Charlie Jane Anders

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff I am just saying that there's no credibility to your theory just by saying that. ;)

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]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @vurtscribe: I heard you didn't even read the post!

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> I wasn't casting judgement on the movie. Honestly, I think it looks like a fun movie. I really like Mos Def and Jack Black isn't horrible. I just thought it was odd that suddenly teh intraweb is asploding with this tale of plagiarism.

And yes Braak, I did read the initial post I linked, I specifically chose that one because it was neutral in its discussion of the issue.

vurtscribe

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @Tim Faulkner: I like your definition more than the one I found at wikipedia.

joemono

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> Michel Gondry is a construct of three people-the actual "Michel" is nothing more than the conduit of his related "genius." His disturbed brother is the source of most imagery/animations/illustrations- and his son contributes to shaping ideas---or so I have heard. I would not doubt that said offspring is aware of the Nick show.

This being said- I do not support claims of plagiarism or intellectual property- these notions are at best silly.

The problem with this film-and all of Gondry's non music vid work- is that it is hollow. Its hollowness makes it dangerous. The "genius" is how this hollowness is camouflaged. It is sinister.

Art direction as leaves and net over a bottomless abyss.

Throughout his career, Gondry seems to have been asking a fairly common question, not an easy question, but a common question: What is Real?

In this case, BE KIND, it seems as if he is positing that Hollywood is real- that the film should be humorous because of the "re-interpretations" are near budgetless- cheap, but creative.-----but, in actuality, they are neither- not cheap because of the amount of time the protagonists must have dedicated to the films they are "remaking"-and not creative because, outside of effects, the remakes stray very little from the original, they can't...for if they did, they would no longer be recognizable as re-makes or re-interpretations. Therefore-Hollywood is Real- and these are the copies- which only continues to support the "realness" of the original- follow?

another failure of the "independents"--worst marketing term ever--how can ivan reitman's son be considered indie, let alone coppolas?

Hollywood is garbage- another movie to support garbage...

and now they're gonna rape akira. awesome.

Matt_Damhave

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @joemono: slipstream is nonsense for: we can't call this scifi by our strict definition but we want to appropriate it as scifi because it's actually better than most scifi.

Tim Faulkner

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: I heard Barack Obama stole this movie from his friend and that HIS HOPE IS EVIL.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @moff:

*hrrrrk*

EXPLODE!!1!!1one

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @joemono: I hope the whole movie is about the wacky fan films which Jack Black and Mos Def make (with the help of an ever-increasing supporting cast). Otherwise I'll be disappointed.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> Can someone define "slipstream" for me?

joemono

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: i am not saying there is any credibility to the theory just providing the video.

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> @braak: I heard this was ripped off from Nickelodeon.

Moff

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> You just made this movie sound a hundred thousand times more interesting.

@vurtscribe: @EDread83: Did you guys read this post? The whole thing? Where she talks about how "remaking" the videos isn't even the point of the movie?

braak

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> Some one posted a video on youtube claiming this movie is a rip off of a Nickelodeon show.


+ Watch video

EDread83

]]> <![CDATA[Be Kind, Rewind Is Slipstream Slapstick]]> Isn't this the movie that everyone is claiming was ripped off from Nickelodeon?

[www.slashfilm.com]

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